Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

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I would be very interested to know what the price difference would be between the cost of Havertz and Sancho. Both players are similar talent, leading talent for their counties.
If we are to believe Sancho's comments yesterday he's very content at Dortmund, we should only want player who are fully committed to joining us, we'll see over the next few weeks if it's the case. We'll see movement on transfers in and out once the EL is over. Sancho is a massive talent and would be a brilliant signing, I'm not too sure it will happen this summer.

Sancho is a good few levels ahead of Havertz as it stands and is younger.
 
I'm often unsure if some people here are actual United supporters or they just love to hate United.
This is the same forum that asks questions like “why would Jack Grealish want to join us?” so having an inferiority complex to Madrid and Barca is small fry.

Sancho wants to play in his home league but people can’t quite grasp why he’d want to play for the biggest club in that league who actually on paper have a very exciting young side again and with his signing will have shown they’re willing to spend big to supplement that young team with further top signings. Everyone bangs on about projects in football - well for an ambitious young footballer there aren’t many bigger than making this club successful again.
 
I think you are just making an unreasonable inference based on the current evidence (last two transfer windows). Reasonable inference would be United and Ole wanted to be risk-averse with bringing in players esp. given transfer failures under previous management. Thus, he went for players who are more likely to have positive influence in the team straightaway. And those are players with the experience in the PL. However good our scouts may be with scouting talents outside PL, there's always a higher likelihood they take a longer to settle or even succeed in PL. That's it. We took a risk with Bruno in the winter, and it worked well for us. And as we get closer to a more settled squad, Ole and United can take more risks with players outside the PL.

That's quite ironic considering that Ole probably owes Bruno the fact that we made it to 3rd place. Meanwhile we are still in need of a CB and a LB despite spending 160m on maguire, Shaw and AWB

If we had 300m to spend then by all means get Graelish and Sancho. Unfortunately we don't
 
The deadline was all over the media / social media, what did Ed want, a telegram?

A proper professional statement not using third party. Ed is expecting Dortmund be more professional since they are a proper professional club not amateur sunday league football club.
 
From Adrian Kajumba who is close to the Sancho camp. We're about to become an absolute laughing stock once again. Top negotiation from our guys once again.
He's the same guy who reported we'd agreed personal terms with Sancho a week ago. Wouldn't take his word as gospel.
 
From Adrian Kajumba who is close to the Sancho camp. We're about to become an absolute laughing stock once again. Top negotiation from our guys once again.
The personal terms according to him I think, and others, were never a problem though - we should be fine on that.
 
Can't the Mods just lock this thread for now until something officially happens about Sancho transfer . It's bad for our health to keep refreshing this page hoping to see anything significant, only to read messages about posters arguing about who is right between Dortmund with their spin Doctors and Ed Woodward and Manchester United. We want to hear concrete news about Sancho not who is winning PR war between some Dortmund spin Doctors and the most professional, greatest football club in the world in Manchester United. Transfer deadline is 5 October, this thread can be opened then. Thank you Mods.
Must be your first rodeo. Just ignore the thread and we'll see you in October.
 
I tell you what. Anyone who wants the thread closing.. Just don't come in... Stop being so bloody pessimistic. We're still in negotiations (confirmed by club briefs) for one of the best young players in the world. Will undoubtedly be the biggest deal of the window and one of the biggest deals of all time. It's not going to be straightforward. It also sounds like Dortmund are slowing negotiations down, so why are United getting so much grief?

All this fecking doom mongering is so irritating. Was exactly the same in the 'Top 4 Race' thread. Always predicting the worst and bashing the club.. Lighten the feck up.
 
That's paper talk again. What we were strongly linked with were Haaland, King, Graelish and Sancho.

Also We ended up signing a Nigerian with EPL experience.

We were strongly linked with Dybala, Griezmann and Eriksen too, none of which are Norwegian or English.
 
This transfer is now very unlikely, the player seems happy where he is. Don't know why the club is giving the impression we are still in for him. We really need to be focusing on strengthening the other areas of the team.
Could be a double bluff.

At this point if I were Ed and the deal was dead, I would let other clubs think we are having to spend big to get this Sancho deal over the line in the hope we could screw other clubs down a bit for other players ;)
 
Honestly this thread needs closing. Just seen the reports that we offered Sancho a pay cut, definitely not happening.
Yeah, we definitely didn’t though. The Journo your referring to is getting duff info from Dortmund.

The one thing you are guaranteed at United, even the tea ladies and cleaners, is a pay rise when signing for the club.
 
That's quite ironic considering that Ole probably owes Bruno the fact we made it to 3rd place. Meanwhile we are still in need of a CB and a LB despite spending 160m on maguire, Shaw and AWB
Shaw was signed like 5 years ago, Maguire and AWB have been a success overall in their first season here. Bruno like I mentioned worked out for us, so I don't know how that's ironic. But again, my point was signing from outside PL is always more risky than from inside PL. So in the situation where we wanted to be risk-averse, we went for PL experienced players. We can take in European talents when we are at a stage where we can take risks.
 
I need this transfer to happen. Sancho at United is something I want to inject in my veins.
 
Here's an idea, if you don't believe it to be happening....don't post in the thread? Also don't believe everything you read, or you'll go crazy.

You'd have to indulge in obscenely high levels of gullibility to buy the the pay-cut tweet.
 
For public pressure, yes. I wouldn't sell that mob a virus etc.
Hell Dormund thrnselves with Dembele and Auba.

You trash your reputation to create pressure on someone while also letting them know that there is no deadline?
I think people are too concerened with sinister PR games. Why would Woodward care what people think for a newscycle in August, it's the end result of the window that he and the club will eventually be judged on.

Dortmund didn't just accept the first good offer for Dembele and Aubameyang either, both players had to cause considerable disruption before they reconsidered.
 
This transfer is now very unlikely, the player seems happy where he is. Don't know why the club is giving the impression we are still in for him. We really need to be focusing on strengthening the other areas of the team.
Off to the bookies with you so plan It’s 5/4 for that to happen lump on!
 
A proper professional statement not using third party. Ed is expecting Dortmund be more professional since they are a proper professional club not amateur sunday league football club.
There’s no evidence of a third party been used.
 
Apparently we weren't confused enough, so they threw this pearl of wisdom at us to cement the deal.

Thanks, twitter.

Exactly. Its like this is reverse psychology now. As if our heads weren't screwed enough with all the conflicting reports :lol:

At this point if Jadon came out and said "I can't wait to join up with my new Manchester United team mates" we'd get people saying "ha! I knew he didn't want to come. All this time we've wasted chasing him when we could've been in for Grealish"
 
Shaw was signed like 5 years ago, Maguire and AWB have been a success overall in their first season here. Bruno like I mentioned worked out for us, so I don't know how that's ironic. But again, my point was signing from outside PL is always more risky than from inside PL. So in the situation where we wanted to be risk-averse, we went for PL experienced players. We can take in European talents when we are at a stage where we can take risks.

It kind of is considering we spent 150m on 3 players who are nowhere near to WC. So let's spend money on talent rather then on nationality and EPl experience shall we?
 
Same really, been detached from football in general. I didn't bother watching the Copenhagen game after the first half. No matter when I update this thread and the number of page is moving up, there are posters who are losing their shit over Sancho.

I feel exactly the same. Lockdown football is shit. It’s why Liverpool’s success is so tainted :D
 
Could be a double bluff.

At this point if I were Ed and the deal was dead, I would let other clubs think we are having to spend big to get this Sancho deal over the line in the hope we could screw other clubs down a bit for other players ;)

Dont say things like that... :nervous:
 
It’s the only way they can really get away with all this posturing and save any face if they sell. Probably means Sancho will sacrifice some sort of bonuses he was entitled to. Maybe United will pay those for him as part of a signing on fee unless he chooses to wave it all together.
If there is any truth to the recent contract extension you would think any agent worth his socks would have guaranteed Sancho gets some cash from any sort of move.
You clearly haven`t been following things. That extension was activated last year but made public this year it was not activated this year. Utd and others involved in the deal definitely knew this behind the scenes it changes absolutely nothing as Utd still have to pay up regardless and if they do BVB will sell. if the extension was something hugely significant we`d have walked.
And BVB would only benefit from selling next year if there is a vaccine and if fans are allowed back into the stadiums but that`s up in the air if things stay as they are come next year not even us will be able to afford Sancho cause every club will be skint so BVB will be forced into having to sell him for a cut price fee in 2021 cause clubs will still be recovering from the pandemic therefore unable to afford big fees immediately and he`ll only have one year left on his deal so no chance they get a big fee then. This year is the ONLY time a big fee is GUARANTEED. If we pay up they will sell all this noise from Zorc is professional posturing and brinkmanship.
 
This guy at least makes sense.

A public statement from Sancho would put this saga to bed once and for all. That he chooses not to do so gives me hope.
Sancho wants to leave Germany and return to England full time.

This is the whole reason the transfer is actually going to happen in the first place, people forget that.

Sancho doesn't want to leave Dortmund because he doesn't enjoy the club or the football, he wants to come home to England.

He won't come out and publically slag Dortmund off, but he does want to come home, and United are trying to give him that opportunity.

He will smartly just continue as normal, if the transfer happens i'm sure he will be delighted, if it doesn't he will keep doing what he's been doing and i'm sure Dortmund will do something to keep him happy like more trips home etc.

Anyway I suspect it will get done as Dortmund know he wants to leave, they just want the maximum amount of money. I think United will cave eventually as it's more risk to us losing out on him, and Ole doesn't deserve to have another shite window.
 
I doubt we'll see a public statement from Sancho one way or the other.

I don't think he's so desperate to join us that he'll risk jeopardising his relationship with Dortmund by trying to force the move (ala Dembele) only for it not to materialise. Another season at Dortmund where he can continue to develop as a 20 year old won't be the worst thing and he'll likely have more suitors next summer anyway.

I also don't see him issuing a statement to say he wants to stay at Dortmund unless we pull the plug on the deal because we can't agree a fee. If he had no interest in moving by now this saga would have been put to bed weeks ago.
 
Sancho is a good few levels ahead of Havertz as it stands and is younger.
The numbers suggest you are correct with goals scored and assists but if Sancho is ruled out would we wise to go for Harvertz or wait until next season? We are in dire need for at least three positions on the team; I don't see it happening if we get Sancho as the club is going to lose a lot money due to the corona virus.
 
One of the many drawbacks whenever a deal like this lasts so long is there's just so much waffle to sift through because there's the time for the narrative to be really spiced up in all different directions. I can see why we lose so many muppets along the way.
I come here for you.
 
Here's an idea, if you don't believe it to be happening....don't post in the thread? Also don't believe everything you read, or you'll go crazy.

You're pedalling the positive news as though its gospel. I just want to be here when reality sets in and see the fallout of how amateurish we've been once again, because unlike others, I've not forgot about how shit a job Woodward has done or how it was universally accepted on here that we need a DoF. Where's all those people gone that were rampant for us to bring one in? They're strung along by the PR department into forgetting about all the bad stuff, whilst in the meantime we wallow as a second rate team.
 
I can't believe I'm going to waste a post to point out that we're on 666 pages :devil:

This deal will happen, it's not like we're going to the supermarket to top up on bread and milk. Patience lads.
 
It kind of is considering we spent 150m on 3 players who are nowhere near to WC. So let's spend money on talent rather then on nationality and EPl experience shall we?
I don't know what you don't understand with what I'm saying.
Right now/A year ago:
United -> don't want to take risks -> sign less risky options

A year from now (with more settled squad):
United -> ability to take risks -> sign more risky options

We have been burned quite a few times in the last few years with signings from outside Pl, so its natural to consider them more risky to move in the other direction for now. And its usually the case for PL as well esp. the first season.
 
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