Something isn't sitting right with me with all these tweets.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Yes. Most likely this is the thing. Lowballing Dortmund won't really help imo.
This is just nonsense. Of course we have made a bid. There’s been negotiations for two weeks. Just no official bid since it’s not accepted by BD.
So this Kajumba guy is full of shit?
It has been clear since last week the negotiations are happening through intermediaries (they have even been named). Surely, there is no point using intermediaries for negotiations and then submitting official bids in the middle of negotiations. Based on the thickness of news since yesterday, it seems like a way to push our faces into the mud to force us agree to their demands quickly.
Why would anyone believe any tweets/stories on this after the last few weeks? 10 days ago we were supposedly in 'advanced talks' with Dortmund.
Would seem like it, he’s shot himself in the foot posting the exact opposite to an article of his last week!
When journalists directly contradict things they wrote a week ago you know they’re just changing with the proverbial wind and taking educated punts to get clicks. Miguel Delaney for instance does it all the time. This new story is exactly what sky have been reporting all day. Romano has been consistent throughout though - terms agreed, in negotiations for a fee and there’s no deadline. He could have said negotiations have been unsuccessful when Zorc made his public comments but he’s stuck with his story - it wouldn’t have made him seem any less accurate - but he stuck with it. That tells me he has a genuine source unlike the rest of these chancers who constantly flip-flop based on what’s being reported elsewhere that day.Jokes aside, there's so much conflicting information
I just can't get a grasp of what's actually happening, last week it seems like we're at the last stages of signing him, today we've not even made a bid. Some of these guys are either full of shit, or pulling the trigger on their 'exclusives' way too soon.
Maybe something fishy is going on? This guy is close to Sancho.
I am a bit worried about some of the briefs that we would explore options and then look at alternatives. I would prefer we just stay quiet on this one.
This I prefer! After all, there are multiple ways to pretend you did not receive a bid, especially if it has to go through a 3rd party agent so that you are never really in contact directly.
Both can be true though. We might have an agreement with him in case we strike a deal with Dortmund. He may, at the same time, not be interested in acting unprofessionally to secure the move, for example by going public with his desire or putting pressure on Dortmund to sell by going on strike etc.
Nothing new to report so the journos have resorted to bashing the club with whatever bullshit.
Everyone will jump on it though because bashing Ed and the club is secretly everyone's favourite pastime.
Everyone will jump on it though because bashing Ed and the club is secretly everyone's favourite pastime.
In the full article he says that was what we eventually offered him before increasing the offer and coming to an agreement.
Kajumba has ties to Sancho's camp. I'm inclined to believe what he's saying here.
Until there's a briefing from the club that the deal is off, we're still signing him.
And if it ends up that we don't sign him then that could prove to be a blessing in disguise too for the coming season. Sancho is a very talented player but for me the German league is very helpful to attackers and very harsh on CBs due to the very attack minded approach where there is space in behind to exploit.
I know many won't agree but I feel we would be stronger going into next season with Dembele/Chiesa, Grealish and a CB.
And if it ends up that we don't sign him then that could prove to be a blessing in disguise too for the coming season. Sancho is a very talented player but for me the German league is very helpful to attackers and very harsh on CBs due to the very attack minded approach where there is space in behind to exploit.
I know many won't agree but I feel we would be stronger going into next season with Dembele/Chiesa, Grealish and a CB.
Tears, yes. But they'll be tears of unbridled joy
If that happens, I hope it will be earlier than page 800
The problem is every transfer for a big player usually leads to a circus with our club. We certainly have some of the worst people who can broker negotiations in the world.
Mourinho wanted Maguire who Woodward denied then a season later we pay more for the same individual under a different manager. Theres many posters giving the club credit for getting Bruno cheaper, but was it really worth the expense of having a dreadful start to the season, having a bad squad and relying on the likes of Dan James to revolutionise our fortunes. Solskjaer could have lost his employment as a result of such approaches.
Us bidding for Sancho isn't some new scheme that the club are trying to portray that they've somehow turn't into being financially responsible. The fact we are going after a young prodigy who is ALREADY proven is the reason why our strategy hasn't changed nor been effective. We will continue to overpay for players while looking stupid in the process so long as the likes of Woodward is in charge.
Mourinho wanted Maguire who Woodward denied then a season later we pay more for the same individual under a different manager. Theres many posters giving the club credit for getting Bruno cheaper, but was it really worth the expense of having a dreadful start to the season, having a bad squad and relying on the likes of Dan James to revolutionise our fortunes. Solskjaer could have lost his employment as a result of such approaches.
Us bidding for Sancho isn't some new scheme that the club are trying to portray that they've somehow turn't into being financially responsible. The fact we are going after a young prodigy who is ALREADY proven is the reason why our strategy hasn't changed nor been effective. We will continue to overpay for players while looking stupid in the process so long as the likes of Woodward is in charge.
I am telling you man, dont be too generous with your expectations ofthese lot. We dont operate like a big club.
Those can both be true but we can’t have agreed terms with Sancho being set to earn substantially more than his current wage last week whilst simultaneously only having offered him less that what he earns at Dortmund now can we? That tells me he knows jack, has no real sources and is taking a guess on him not being willing to agitate for a move. After all either he does or he doesn’t and based on Sancho’s comments today the safe bet is he doesn’t.
I am pretty convinced that with Ole being old school and back, nobody is now breaking the wage structures at United with new deals. That is most likely what is happening, and therefore, Sancho is not going to make more than Rashford on £200k/week. That's all. If he makes £190k/week right now, than that's his pay here.
We are dicks
Dicks of the highest order.
Absolute imbeciles in the transfer market
Dicks of the highest order.
Absolute imbeciles in the transfer market
It seems like there are messages out of Dortmund, United, Sancho's camp and the intermediaries it's difficult to know who to believe.Jokes aside, there's so much conflicting information
Can that Kajumba fella be blacklisted? It's clear he's full of shit.
He said last week Sancho can expect a hike on his current salary, now he's saying we'll match it. It's a completely different line he's towing, he's had one interview with Sancho, does that really make him close to him?
What is being negotiated if there has been no talk of money? How do people buy this shit?
Come on mate, don't fall for oppo banter materials.
If by “we” you mean people believing everything they read on Twitter then yes.
If it's true that he's close to the Sancho camp then what he's saying is whatever they think best suits them at the time.
If we blacklist him then we have to blacklist Jan for towing Dortmund/Bundesliga line or Stone for United.
I don't think they tweets even conflict that much. The first tweet is about how much Dortmund want, rather than what we are willing to pay, which is what the second tweet refers to.
Yesterday - no personal terms have been discussed with Sancho
Today- our 1st wage offer was lower than he currently earns
Today- our 1st wage offer was lower than he currently earns
It's because the same person tweeted out the exact opposite just a week ago.
I agree he’ll earn what Rashford and Martial do which is 200k base rising to 250k with bonuses. However, Ole was here when De Gea signed his new contract so not sure about your first point and Pogba’s new contract will be parity with that I’d imagine.
Its always enjoyable to see our fans outraging over a bunch of speculative tweets and articles that rely on the grey areas during any transfer negotiation.
Don’t believe everything you read
When it comes to recognition in world football, De Gea and Pogba are both world cup winners. And they were benefiting from that old structure.
Martial is not even a seasoned international yet.
Rashford is, but he's quite young, and his best result is only a semi final in a WC.
Sancho the same and younger than Rashford.
They are not getting more than what the wage structure allows.
He said we offered to match it and it's expected we'll come to agreement (presumably on a hike) and the stumbling block is the transfer fee.
He's also called the Sancho saga fairly accurately for the past year. I think if you read between the lines on the DM article it does read like a piece put out by Sancho's camp. Specifies Sancho will not break our wage structure, will not aggressively push for a move and everything is in United's hands to put in an acceptable bid.
It reads like Sancho and co wanting to pressure United to move faster and get it over with.
After this saga is over only real muppets should be allowed in transfer threads.
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