So take a look at the Brandon Williams, Lingard, Pereira, and AWB performance threads right now. Take a look at some of the match day and post match day performance threads up until Burnley (so Sept 2019 to Jan 2020). Have a read through some of the Pogba threads. Then come back and tell me you honestly believe that last sentence is true.
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So take a look at the Brandon Williams, Lingard, Pereira, and AWB performance threads right now. Take a look at some of the match day and post match day performance threads up until Burnley (so Sept 2019 to Jan 2020). Have a read through some of the Pogba threads. Then come back and tell me you honestly believe that last sentence is true.
Never over til the fat lady sings.
Obviously it's a United forum. But that doesn't mean that you as a United poster have to throw every remainder of neutrality out of the window with both hands and proudly wallow in your biases, attacking everyone that provides a different perspective to yours.
I thought that was the UK but ok.If you live in Houston then the lack of a sense of humour has rubbed off on you a bit too much
Here's the thing mate and I had tried framing it to some other Dortmund fan on here as well who got set off with it. I think we can all agree on the following-Can you explain why? Are you mad at BVB because they don't want to sell their best player to the holy United? Can you then just sell Pogba for €40m to Juve or Real, please? Or should Real now say "well they did not sell their best player to us, we don't make a deal with them ever again"? And I am not even mentioning De Gea->Real.
First you guys belittle BVB as a selling and feeder club. Then, when you realize that they don't want to sell, you get mad. This is somehow really funny.
1. With or without Sancho, BVB are not likely to win the league. They will finish in a CL qualification spot and in the CL they'll reach the RO16 or QF. Of course, anything can happen in football but these would be there realistic ambitions for this coming season. Keeping Sancho or letting him go does not change those ambitions. Keeping or letting go Pogba does affect Utd's ambitions. With him we can probably aim higher than we would without him. Utd are not happy with our current standing in the game, whereas BVB seem perfectly happy where they are as evidenced by their constantly selling their biggest players. If you really have ambitions of winning trophies regularly, you don't let go of your best players irrespective of the price.
2. In the last 20 years, Ronaldo and DDG are the only 2 players whom Man Utd wanted to keep, but yet agreed to sell. SAF wanted to sell the likes of Beckham and RVN and well wanted to get rid of ADM. BVB on the other hand constantly sell their top players, whatever be the reason. The likes of Sahin, Hummels, Gotze, Kagawa, Mkhi, Aubameyang, Dembele, all these are of the top of my head. They constantly act as a feeder club for the top clubs of Europe, so why get offended when someone calls them that?
3. Even if they keep Sancho for a year, he is not going to spend his entire career at BVB. He may leave next year but he will go for sure. Now given that its likely his value will go down given he will have a year less on his contract and his staying for a year is unlikely to lead to BVB winning the league or CL (of course they could surprise us but we'll all agree it will be a major shock), it leads people to question what is the point of keeping him here? Why not reduce your demands a little bit? So that you get your money and buy a replacement and carry on with your model of grooming and selling players while staying the 2nd best team in Germany.
It is these 3 points that make Utd fans feel that BVB are just drawing out this saga unnecessarily in a move that benefits no one. If its Villa acting like this with Grealish, then I could understand because Grealish staying or leaving is likely to be the difference between Villa staying up or getting relegated so you can understand why they would stick to their demands. Sancho staying or leaving isn't likely to change BVB's standing so it all seems like unnecessary posturing.
Are they going to drive home the point by making every single squad player talk about Sancho? Maybe the U19's as well just to be sure.
Isn't there a Bundelisga thread on the caf for their bunch of followers to lurk and post in? They can self rub in there for all they want. This is the Jadon Sancho thread
We would briefed the media if we thought the deal was dead. We have done so in the past with Griezmann & Dybala. I reckon we will get him but it's obviously not as straight forward as we initially thought.
I guess irony and sarcasm are not exactly the strong points of many Germans and maybe German posters in here. I had a couple of good laughts reading stuff about BVB as a fecking small time club bending over to the mighty Bayern. Take it with a pinch of salt fellow German posters. Concerning Sancho I really don´t think that the transfer will happen until next season and I tell you who is responsible: Uli Hoeneß. He really took the piss out of BVB last week and Zorc did bite back. They would become a laughing stock if they accept an offer the next weeks after saying the decision is definitive. Well it would be entertaining if that really happens
Maybe Trump should be releasing their press statements.It'd be a whole lot more entertaining
Maria is warming up...
Could they really say something like that right now? Imagine the kind of field day the press would have if they first get briefed that United believe that this deadline is artifical and they are calling the bluff and then it just so happens they get a "we didn't want him anyway" brief the moment the deadline passed?
I think oppo fans coming onto a United forum being irked by a United bias opinions/jokes/bitterness is really bizarre.
WTF!Where do you get the 'German bastards,' from?
No one hates anyone in other clubs...except Russians and Arabs. Apart from that this place is a haven of tolerance
Send in Raiola with a few chairs please. Wheres the fat cnut when we need him.
I guess irony and sarcasm are not exactly the strong points of many Germans and maybe German posters in here. I had a couple of good laughts reading stuff about BVB as a fecking small time club bending over to the mighty Bayern. Take it with a pinch of salt fellow German posters. Concerning Sancho I really don´t think that the transfer will happen until next season and I tell you who is responsible: Uli Hoeneß. He really took the piss out of BVB last week and Zorc did bite back. They would become a laughing stock if they accept an offer the next weeks after saying the decision is definitive. Well it would be entertaining if that really happens
Well, if that would be possible both ways, no problem. But if I post in here "hope Sancho stays another season and goes to Liverpool next season, would serve United and Woodward right for being so greedy and arrogant and using so obvious negotiation tactics", how do you think the reactions in here would look like? Would the local posters in here get the irony and sarcasm?
They've come flooding back since the 'DEADLINE' wasn't met. German football defence league.Apparently it's irony? And it's okay to say that now because we claim irony.
I guess irony and sarcasm are not exactly the strong points of many Germans and maybe German posters in here. I had a couple of good laughts reading stuff about BVB as a fecking small time club bending over to the mighty Bayern. Take it with a pinch of salt fellow German posters. Concerning Sancho I really don´t think that the transfer will happen until next season and I tell you who is responsible: Uli Hoeneß. He really took the piss out of BVB last week and Zorc did bite back. They would become a laughing stock if they accept an offer the next weeks after saying the decision is definitive. Well it would be entertaining if that really happens
That's stretching things a bit far...
Why would you want to post that on a United forum? And do you expect no bias towards United on our own forum?
Well this thread has turned into a clusterfeck.
Is that...MAH GAAAWD, IT'S RAIOLA. THAT'S GOTTA BE RAIOLA.
CHAIR SHOT TO HUMMELS. WILL SOMEBODY STOP THE DAMN MATCH.
Being irked by biases is never bizarre. It's bizarre that you justify biases with the forum you're on. It's like saying "yeah, I know that I'm wrong but I stick with my opinion anyway".
Why do they do this? Are there any benefits of doing this through a third party? It seems weird in my opinion, and I don't see how any side benefits from it.
Yeah. Do they expect us to be objective regarding all things United and football in general? I would love to see the tone on other forums, but my guess is that it's even worse. I mean, I honestly think most posters are quite "forgiving" when discussing with rival/other fans.
You sure it is not Vicky..
I think my biggest frustration is the collection of oppo fans who join the forum to WUM. Never understood the attraction and I personally find it quite pathetic. This thread for instance is littered with it. It's a fun transfer speculation thread yet we end up with posts and posts of negativity from people who don't support United yet seemingly have some bizarre desire for the club to fail. Yet they join the forum allegedly for "quality discussion".
Many people are sick of it tbh.
Maybe because I was provoked and want to get back at you? I thought banter like that is funny and German posters just don't get the irony behind that?
We should lock it until there is some news. The Germans are unable to keep things on track it seems.Well this thread has turned into a clusterfeck.
I know its irony, but talking about it like that is fecking stupid.
I don't think Dortmund are willing to negotiate, as they don't need the funds, but would be willing to sell him if their valuation was met. Isn't that the whole part as using and intermediaries and refusing to communicate with us themselves, to discourage negotiation? Basically a, pay what we want, or feck off.
Unless they're purposefully trying to frustrate the deal...
You do realise you are posting in the Sancho thread? Can you kindly feck off with your banter to a more appropriate thread please and thanks.
No offense but I came across many post of yours in recent weeks and you're quite fast with identifying "WUMs". You've done that multiple times when the poster you called WUM wasn't doing that whatsoever in my opinion.
Irony, my friend...irony!
It's a seller's market right now and they hold all the cards.
Can you blame them for getting their money's worth?
MadnessWell this thread has turned into a clusterfeck.
Wouldn't it be just as effective to just say "no" or "NEIN" or "120 Millionen oder hol die Ente raus, Woodie" until we cough up what they want?
Maybe not you, but there are quite some German posters on here who were extremely quiet or just signed up to gloat about this transfer. That's just pretty sad.
Maybe not in your opinion but as has been said before this is a United forum. It's our place. Yes we can be cnuts but if you don't like it you can go elsewhere. As an oppo guest here you have to have tough skin and know when to keep your mouth shut.
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