Mark Ogden also reported at the time that we were miles away from Leicester's valuation and our offer at the time was £40m.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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We're already at the 'wholeheartedly believing every line in the media' stage.
I'm expecting some serious casualties by September.
I'm expecting some serious casualties by September.
They aren’t true muppets mate.
Don't worry lads, just Ed's genius negotiation tactics. Works wonders everytime
Manchester United ready huge bid for Harry Maguire but face having to pay Leicester £50m – TRIPLE what they signed him for just one year ago
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ester-United-ready-pay-50m-Harry-Maguire.html
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Manchester United are poised to lodge a £25million offer for Crystal Palace defender Aaron Wan-Bissaka, reports say.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1558517650
Manchester United ready huge bid for Harry Maguire but face having to pay Leicester £50m – TRIPLE what they signed him for just one year ago
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ester-United-ready-pay-50m-Harry-Maguire.html
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Manchester United are poised to lodge a £25million offer for Crystal Palace defender Aaron Wan-Bissaka, reports say.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1558517650
Insert 'So it begins...' LOTR Gif. here
This is going be a drawn out saga.
This is going be a drawn out saga.
This is Stage 1.
Stage 2 will come about when United will prepare a bid. This will take about 3 weeks.
So if a deal is to be done, it will go well into August.
Could he play for us in the Europa League if he joined? When can he be purchased?
https://strettynews.com/2020/06/30/opinion-dont-read-too-much-into-man-uniteds-50m-limit-for-sancho/
Dortmund have no money and are trying to hide their desperation. They may have a big new stadium, but their business model hasn't changed according to this article.
Dortmund have no money and are trying to hide their desperation. They may have a big new stadium, but their business model hasn't changed according to this article.
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Highly unlikely as if he signs it will be for next seasons campaign like all other transfers
I dunno. They're racing towards the cliff's edge, so they sure as sh1t look like muppets from here!
Rather than go to Dortmund behind closed doors and tell them we're only prepared to offer 50m, lets instead go and tell skysports news so they can announce it to the public....
Of course that happened...
I'm not even going to waste time reading back at all the meltdown in here today from that 'statement'
Of course that happened...
I'm not even going to waste time reading back at all the meltdown in here today from that 'statement'
No - there was something about players having to be eligible back in February to play for the team that can be added to the CL/Europa rosters for the games in August.
I read they were £42 million in debt. Nothing compared to Utd, but still.
So Sancho to United this summer confirmed then.
The best thing about buying a player in the early 20s is that even if the player does a Tiemoue Bakayoko (don't know of a bigger PL flop), the club can still recoup a significant portion of the original transfer fee.
Does anyone really believe that? They could have at least made it sound a believable amount like 80m. 50m is laughable. No-one is naive enough to think you'd get Sancho for 50m. We spent 50m on Wan-Bissaka last summer, even in a post-Covid world the market hasn't deflated that much.
Finally some facts! Very informative post Infra-red.
To add. Here is a copy from 2020 Q3 report (manutd.com) regarding outstanding transfer fees.
https://ir.manutd.com/~/media/Files...manchester-united-plc-3q20-interim-report.pdf
TABULAR DISCLOSURE OF CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS
Contractual Obligations
The following table summarizes our contractual obligations as of 31 March 2020:
(2) Long-term debt obligations
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Less than 1 year £184,058
Also.
Our cash reserves in March 31 2020 was £90.251m.
Our match day revenue in the period of April - June 2020 is probably next to nothing. Our broadcasting revenue will probably also decrease. Our only steady income in this period would be the commercial revenue.
With this in mind there is no way we will up front spend more then approximately £50m, probably less. Our only chance to increase our transfer budget is to sell before we buy.
Forget about our new credit. These 150m is financial security if the pandemic continues another 12 months or so.
Regarding Dortmund they reported a loss of €40m ish something. If they don’t have enough cash reserves they also need to take a loan to cover their losses, if they decide to keep Sancho.
I ask myself why Dortmund CEO Watzke must repeat in media that he won’t budge on the asking price? “No corona discount“. Why scream so load if you are comfortable with your stance?
Nothing is written in stone but from Dortmunds perspective it probably would be wiser to cash in on their most valuable asset to cover their losses instead of waiting another year. That’s how I see it. Nobody knows when this pandemic will ends so....
Sane to Bayern for 50m euros could send a strong signal to BVB if they don't sell Sancho this summer
It's only wise if they get a fair fee. I mean yes if Sancho won't sign a new contract then now is the time to sell, but there's not a chance they would accept 50m or anywhere close to it. They got more than that for the guy Sancho drove out of the team with a year left on his contract. There's a financial aspect to keeping him too if they think it will greatly impact them on the pitch by selling him, besides there's not a chance there isn't a taker for Sancho at higher than 50m. Juventus just paid like £66m + add ons for Arthur, the market hasn't completely collapsed. All in all I'd be stunned if Sancho moved for less than 80m, if we can't afford it then it will be to someone else.
People calling Woodward out after the Sky Sports article, they know f*** all about our transfers, is Benatia still on the plane to sign with us?
Like we're just going to go straight to the negotiating table with a £80-100m bid for Sancho. £50m will be our opening offer to get them at the table, I reckon mid-back end of July this will be a done deal.
Like we're just going to go straight to the negotiating table with a £80-100m bid for Sancho. £50m will be our opening offer to get them at the table, I reckon mid-back end of July this will be a done deal.
So we're obligated to pay £184m, but how much are we going to get for sales? Basically what's the net spend?
If it’s true Leroy Sanè is going to Bayern for less than 50 mil then there is your market standard because he is worth a lot more than that.
We'll just have to see how long they cling on forPfft, if they are easily defeated or swayed, they aren’t real muppets
If we will sign him then my bet would be; 65mil + 20 through bonusses. Or wait for it....
50mil plus Henderson
True, but the buyers are a club not renowned for breaking the bank on transfers and the sellers are a club who don't need to raise funds through transfers. Don't expect this to dictate market trends.
It's pretty much net, for 2020 we owe 211m and will receive 25m.
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From manutd.com
Transfer fees receivable
Similarly, under the terms of contracts with other football clubs for player transfers, additional amounts would be payable to us if certain specific performance conditions are met. In accordance with the recognition criteria for contingent assets, such amounts are only disclosed by the Company when probable and recognized when virtually certain. As of 31 March 2020, we believe receipt of £2.6 million to be probable.
That's a bit grim, then. Although our operating model probably doesn't work on having zero spend anyway?
Thanks, I did read that bit in the link you posted but couldn't draw a full conclusion. It's clearer now.
I'm pretty sure that I posted it somewhere but yes United is never at zero, in this decade we almost always start above 100M, generally way above it.
Very interesting. Will have a look at our past financials to see if that figure is an anomaly.
That's a bit more reassuring then
Have you also seen any trends with our wage budgets? We are probably doing a bit better in that regard, compared to say 2 years ago. How I wish we didn't have Sanchez on our books...After the Benatia and Gundogan stories I stopped taking Sky Sports News seriously unless it’s a completed transfer/loan, unless I see it from Simon Stone or David Orstein I never really take it as close to gospel.
I don’t for a second believe we expect to sign Sancho for £50 million maximum regardless of COVID-19 as Sancho is only behind Mbappe as the best youngster in world football, it’s a negotiating tactic exactly as we did with Maguire and Wan-Bissaka last summer and Fernandes in January.
I don’t for a second believe we expect to sign Sancho for £50 million maximum regardless of COVID-19 as Sancho is only behind Mbappe as the best youngster in world football, it’s a negotiating tactic exactly as we did with Maguire and Wan-Bissaka last summer and Fernandes in January.
Oh ok, well that's a shame that The Times aren't reliable but thanks for letting me know. I'll forward your post to the head of IPSO too.
For note, it says Sancho's close advisors say that his eventual dream is to win the Ballon d'Or with Real Madrid or Barcelona.
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How much do we think Sane’s low fee will influence proceedings?
For the first time I don’t believe there is any chance now of a £100m plus fee for definite.
Im now convinced it’ll be £70-80m + add ons but no chance the guaranteed goes 100 or north.
For the first time I don’t believe there is any chance now of a £100m plus fee for definite.
Im now convinced it’ll be £70-80m + add ons but no chance the guaranteed goes 100 or north.
Dont think it’ll make a big difference. He’s not kicked a ball in a year and he had a year left on his contract and wanted out l.
The Sane fee is not low to me, as his contract was down to a year and he was not going to sign a new one. Sancho has two years on his, the same as Sane did when Bayern were readying themselves to pay more than £100m.
If you had a direct line to the IPSO you wouldn't believe the Times were a reliable source.
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