Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

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jamesjimmybyrondean said:
I dont know why they would panic unless they think we are the only suitors for Sancho even if he stays one more year. But when I think about it this might be Dortmunds best chance to get him for a good price. If they don't sell Sancho now then by the next season he would have 6 months left on his contract. No team would want to spend big amounts on a player with 6 months left. So this window may be their best chance.
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I don't think BVB will panic, they have a generational talent, he won't be short of suitors.

Sancho's contract expires in June 2022 so he will have another year left, we saw Hazard go for £100m with a year left. The point will be that will BVB risk losing 2 players next summer? With Sancho going into his final year, they would want to sell him to get a fee and Haaland's release clause coming into play. They could potentially lose their 2 best players in one window.
 
crossy1686 said:
Atheltic said today that United have made Sancho their number 1 transfer target this summer but have others lined up just in case they can't land him.

Also said VDB isn't a likely transfer, they suspect Grealish would be signed before VDB according to their sources. Said Van Der Sar's comments in the press the other day were comments of a man trying to get a bidding war going, not much in it otherwise.
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Not even sure to believe this
 
romufc said:
I don't think BVB will panic, they have a generational talent, he won't be short of suitors.

Sancho's contract expires in June 2022 so he will have another year left, we saw Hazard go for £100m with a year left. The point will be that will BVB risk losing 2 players next summer? With Sancho going into his final year, they would want to sell him to get a fee and Haaland's release clause coming into play. They could potentially lose their 2 best players in one window.
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This is going to be another long saga. If he has one year left after one season then Dortmund better keep him now. There would be a bidding war for him at that time. Dortmund are smart and they've already quoted a price thats a win for them. It's between from what I've read 100m - 130m if we pay it then it meets their valuation for Sancho and they gain a lot. If we don't they go on to next season where there would be more suitors and sill still get good money for him with 1 year left. Either way their valuation for Sancho would be met so we better stop low balling them
 
SportBild is reporting this morning that he's made his mind up and is set on leaving this summer...



You know what to do Woody

We had the 3 Spanish Amigos a few years ago, now time to have the 3 English Amigos with Rashford, Sancho and Lingard :lol: :D
 
Rolaholic said:
SportBild is reporting this morning that he's made his mind up and is set on leaving this summer...



You know what to do Woody

We had the 3 Spanish Amigos a few years ago, now time to have the 3 English Amigos with Rashford, Sancho and Lingard :lol: :D
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Who are the Spanish ones
 
Imagine this saga goes on to October, because of this apparent new transfer window. Dortmund will sell, it's what they do. They want as much as they can get. They will be taking a serious hit next summer on what they could get. Ed Woodward and Matt Judge with there poker face on, you know they will cave and pay up basically what Dortmund want. That 130 million euro quoted today is utter bullsht too, they will be lucky to get 100m euro. United will probably get it down to 90m euro. They still are making big money.
 
jamesjimmybyrondean said:
Who are the Spanish ones
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jamesjimmybyrondean said:
This is going to be another long saga. If he has one year left after one season then Dortmund better keep him now. There would be a bidding war for him at that time. Dortmund are smart and they've already quoted a price thats a win for them. It's between from what I've read 100m - 130m if we pay it then it meets their valuation for Sancho and they gain a lot. If we don't they go on to next season where there would be more suitors and sill still get good money for him with 1 year left. Either way their valuation for Sancho would be met so we better stop low balling them
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I agree, this is going to be a very long saga with twists and turns.

Teams always prepare for a bidding war, but when was the last time you saw a bidding war for a player? When a player is valued at £100m, there are not many teams who can afford that in the first place.

Secondly, teams have other areas to improve on as well, blowing a large proportion on a bidding war may not happen.

If we miss out on him this season and sign another RW for a substantial fee, I cannot see us going back for him for a third season.
 
Think it might get a bit messy, Sancho will have to kick off and force it to get his wish to leave I feel.

Dortmund know they've got a Golden Goose here and don't want to lose him for a low price this summer, but they know next year he will be worth even less also.

I think eventually we will settle for something like £90 + add ons.
 
Mark Pawelek said:
His contract has two years left. Dortmund playing a fine game of chicken here. No way will anyone pay €130m in this economic climate:
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Madrid players gave up 3 months of wages and their most reliable mouthpieces say they wont spend a penny this summer.
Nonsense like this really should be a blacklist offence
 
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Adam-Utd said:
Think it might get a bit messy, Sancho will have to kick off and force it to get his wish to leave I feel.

Dortmund know they've got a Golden Goose here and don't want to lose him for a low price this summer, but they know next year he will be worth even less also.

I think eventually we will settle for something like £90 + add ons.
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Dortmund would want Dembele money
 
Adam-Utd said:
Think it might get a bit messy, Sancho will have to kick off and force it to get his wish to leave I feel.

Dortmund know they've got a Golden Goose here and don't want to lose him for a low price this summer, but they know next year he will be worth even less also.

I think eventually we will settle for something like £90 + add ons.
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Where do I make the bank transfer to?
 
jamesjimmybyrondean said:
Dortmund would want Dembele money
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Well they won't get that this summer, so they risk losing him for a LOT less next season. Combine that with keeping an unhappy player for a year and is it really worth it?

All depends on Sancho and how much he wants to leave I guess.
 
crossy1686 said:
Atheltic said today that United have made Sancho their number 1 transfer target this summer but have others lined up just in case they can't land him.

Also said VDB isn't a likely transfer, they suspect Grealish would be signed before VDB according to their sources. Said Van Der Sar's comments in the press the other day were comments of a man trying to get a bidding war going, not much in it otherwise.
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Do you mind me asking where did they say that? Was it one of the podcasts? Can’t see an article on it.
Not doubting you by the way just want to check it out myself.
 
When Ogden said our transfer budget was limited to a net spend of £100 million he was getting slated by our supporters but he was right. I would take his opinion on things very seriously and hope he’s right with Sancho and Bellingham.
 
People who talk about bidding wars seems to forget that the player has to agree to join several teams in order for an actual bidding war to occur.
 
jamesjimmybyrondean said:
Not even sure to believe this
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Redo91 said:
Do you mind me asking where did they say that? Was it one of the podcasts? Can’t see an article on it.
Not doubting you by the way just want to check it out myself.
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It's in here lads, have a listen:





If you don't want to listen to the whole thing, it's the last 7 minutes where they discuss transfer stuff.

Would be great if most of us could give this a regular listen to so I don't have to keep coming back into transfer threads when I quote something they've said and someone says it's bollocks because they didn't read it in the Star this morning.
 
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crossy1686 said:
It's in here lads, have a listen:



Would be great if most of us could give this a regular listen to so I don't have to keep coming back into transfer threads when I quote something they've said and someone says it's bollocks because they didn't read it in the Star this morning.
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I believe they said it. I just don't know if the information is true
 
Adam-Utd said:
Well they won't get that this summer, so they risk losing him for a LOT less next season. Combine that with keeping an unhappy player for a year and is it really worth it?

All depends on Sancho and how much he wants to leave I guess.
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How much is a lot less?
 
Taking the 130m as gospel. Then there is nothing saying that they want that all up front. Could easily split that over 3 years. Just under 45m from our budget for the next 3 years. You'll about cover that with player sales anyway. Then you're probably looking at a portion of that being incentive based. I reckon we'll end up getting him. The price will only be reported higher and higher though, as it's us.

Didn't Bruno end up costing about 40m and it's reported as 70 in some places?
 
sewey89 said:
Taking the 130m as gospel. Then there is nothing saying that they want that all up front. Could easily split that over 3 years. Just under 45m from our budget for the next 3 years. You'll about cover that with player sales anyway. Then you're probably looking at a portion of that being incentive based. I reckon we'll end up getting him. The price will only be reported higher and higher though, as it's us.

Didn't Bruno end up costing about 40m and it's reported as 70 in some places?
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I don't think thats an option for Dortmund. Every cent now, or leave it. Its not like Watzke will say: "Ah poor United, ok we help you with your money problems". He is more likely to say: "Disneyland doesn't got enough? Thats not our problem"
 
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I think it's clear that he wants to return to England so even if he stays one extra season we can take Barcelona Madrid Bayern Juve and PSG out of the picture.

Focusing on England the only teams he would find attractive are Liverpool City Chelsea and us. Liverpool are out of the picture if they can't even afford Werner. Looking at this in a scenario where this drags for another season it could be between Chelsea City and us
 
.mica said:
I don't think thats an option for Dortmund. Every cent now, or leave it. Its not like Watzke will say: "Ah poor United, ok we help you with your money problems". He is more likely to say: "Disneyland don't got enough? Thats not our problem"
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Has there ever been a deal in world football that's seen £90+ paid upfront and in one go? Or anything above three figures?

I don't think there has.
 
.mica said:
I don't think thats an option for Dortmund. Every cent now, or leave it. Its not like Watzke will say: "Ah poor United, ok we help you with your money problems". He is more likely to say: "Disneyland doesn't got enough? Thats not our problem"
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Agree, but it would be ludicrous of them to demand absolutely everyting at once.

80 mill up front has been rumoured a few places, guess that is more likely.
 
TheReligion said:
Has there ever been a deal in world football that's seen £90+ paid upfront and in one go? Or anything above three figures?

I don't think there has.
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We paid Maguire's 75m upfront and Ronaldo got paid 80m to us.

Neymar/Mbappe/Coutinho etc were all structured.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
Chelsea haven't spent any money for 2 years because of the ban. They also got 100m for Hazard in that time frame and another 45m for Morata.

You can't compare their spending to ours this summer mate. They will be the biggest movers for the reasons listed above. You got to remember we have bought Maguire, AWB, James n Bruno whilst they have bought nobody.
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We also sold Lukaku for 75m, and will likely sell others, like Smalling at the very least, taking our own transfer incomings up to around 100m. It isn’t only Chelsea’s incomings that count.
 
Giggsy13 said:
When Ogden said our transfer budget was limited to a net spend of £100 million he was getting slated by our supporters but he was right. I would take his opinion on things very seriously and hope he’s right with Sancho and Bellingham.
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£100m net spend is actually very high. Especially given we're likely to sell Smalling, Rojo, Sanchez (hopefully) and we also have another installment on the Lukaku transfer incoming. Lingard and Pereira may be sold too depending on who we sign.
 
Adam-Utd said:
We paid Maguire's 75m upfront and Ronaldo got paid 80m to us.

Neymar/Mbappe/Coutinho etc were all structured.
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Neymar to PSG wasn’t structured, it was a release clause paid straight by the state of Qatar to terminate his contract. Barcelona were not willing sellers, and didn’t sit down to work out a payment plan.
 
Rozay said:
Neymar to PSG wasn’t structured, it was a release clause paid straight by the state of Qatar to terminate his contract. Barcelona were not willing sellers, and didn’t sit down to work out a payment plan.
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Not sure on the way it works but do release clauses HAVE to be paid upfront?

Anyway obviously PSG are a little different than the norm.
 
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