Because even though our fans are crying of managers not being backed enough, I think it's kind of the opposite, they are being backed too much sometimes. We give all the power to them and try to get the targets no matter what, even though all 4 managers we had since SAF have failed.
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We have been in a Europe wide lockdown since March, and in my view, those additional could have been spent arranging this windows transfers, both inwards and outwards, but here we are end of September, less than a week of the window remaining, and we are still scrambling about trying to bring in Sancho and possibly Telles, and still, the situations of Jones, Rojo, Smalling, Romero, Perreira, etc have not been concluded.
If this is a deliberate tactic, more often than not, it backfires, because unless the selling club are desperate for cash, United will be the ones under most pressure to get a deal concluded.
Yes which is why I mentioned last seasons form when we were fit.
1: Sancho will be a new british transfer record signing, during a fecking pandemic where our income during the next 12 months could be reduced by a feckton. It would bring our spending close to £150-160mill this summer.
2: How in the name of jesus fecking christ do you expect to force players out against their will and without paying for it?
To the best of my knowledge, they didn't make any such statement whatsoever after August 10th. All transfer news since then were journos and twitter ITKs coming up with all kinds of supposed inside knowledge, usually contradicting each other (and sometimes themselves).
Fans will always be happy with shiny new toys, it's up to the club to get the right ones in.
Who hires the managers?
Much of that waste is on him as he was the one who picked those managers, the only one he didn't pick is also the only one who he did not waste too much money with. No sane football minded executive will go from LVG to Mourinho to OGS, most of the big spend has been down to him picking managers whose style of play is polar opposite of what the previous manager did. Every new manager we have signed comes in and has to then do a rebuild of the squad to play their football. I am not excusing the managers for their poor spend but much of the blame lies on the shoulder of the guy who hired them.
Aaah according to a write for Goal. Top quality sources!
You think a footballing institution like United allows a former banker the sole autonomy to select a manager?
I agree we have been poor at hiring managers with different styles but let's not pretend all the blame lies at Woodwards door. I don't remember Gill getting any shit for the signings of Obertan, Bellion, Dejmba-Dejmba, Kleberson or the likes.
Sebastian Weßling, who is Funkes responsible reporter for Dortmund is certainly well connected and pretty high up when it comes to reliability. Probably on the same level as Kickers Matthias Dersch, just below Röckenhaus.
Yes I’m sure Dortmund would reject the best offer they’re ever going to get for years.
Maybe you should read the tweet again.
Doesn't matter what you say to some people. They'll deny its happening, even if the club announced it on their website they'd still be in denial.
Seeing as Dortmund have changed from not for sale at all to not for sale unless our price is met is very telling
He's quoting Ruhr Nachrichten.
This is going to be so sad on the 5th. 
I did, according to a German newspaper it seems. The same German newspapers that have said its been off for a long time and that Dortmunds 10th August deadline was firm...
Yet Dortmund themselves have reportedly said we won't accept anything except the price we've told United we want. So who's lying? Dortmund or the papers?
Good post, sir.
Game of phones
If the last few years of Western politics has taught us anything, it's that people in the right circles have a tendency to fail upwards. Just because Woody is good at leveraged buy outs doesn't automatically make him the right person to run a football club.
Only the most wildly optimistic fans would ignore how fecking useless we've been at the basics of running a football club for so long and think that present failings are actually part of some elaborate strategy.
If it looks like shit and it smells like shit, it's probably just shit.
Confirmation bias it seems
"The deadline is this date."
"Suuuuure..."
*makes bid after the deadline and gets refused*
"What the hell? You can't just mean what you say! God damn no-nonsense Germans!"
"Suuuuure..."
*makes bid after the deadline and gets refused*
"What the hell? You can't just mean what you say! God damn no-nonsense Germans!"
So you truly believe that if United offered them a deal equalling €120m in a structured format that they like, they're going to reject it??
The footballing institution has a former banker doing negotiations for it, so I am going to say yes. Not that others don't have say but he will definitely be the guy who chooses the manager and most likely gets a veto on name he might not like.
For every kleberson or obertan there was a evra and a vidic. Under woodward, I don't see who can be called a great cheap signing.
RN also having an eye on Sky bloke and his wacky adventures.
Is that so strange? They would have a really hard time replacing him now. And he's an important part of that Dortmund team.
Unless Sancho desperately wants to leave, it only makes sense from a financial point of view to sell him now.
how about 1 billion dollars ,what horse shit ! Dortmund know this may well be there last chance in quite a while that they will sell any player for that ridiculous amount . Every club no matter how big are going to feel the effects of the Pandemic ,Football Transfers may have survived this window but going forward if the revenues start to dry up what then ? Dortmund are more solid than most but 100 million is alot of money going forward. We are nearly there , one final push .
How was Dembele to Barcelona deal structured? Upfront fees+ guaranteed addons or Upfront + Performance linked addons?
Howard Nurse to break the news, Gary Cotterill to bring him with the plane.
95 Mil. € (I believe in two? installments)+ performance based addons, that were largely very easy to meet (league+CL appearances)+a sell on participation.
So why have Dortmund now changed their tune from not for sale to not for sale at anything less than our asking price?
Also a clause that has Barca pay out the performance bonuses in case he leaves before the end of his initial contract. Which makes the takes that United are threatening Dortmund with the signing of Dembele a bit amusing.
How great is Ed, really? Dove? EvoD? Hm.
Well I personally trust Dortmund's local media more than English journalists when it comes to communicating the club's positions, but it's up to you who you want to believe.
Am I allowed to believe that you are more than confident that we will make it our goal to succeed this upcoming season from what you are saying? My only question to you is, if Sancho was our primary target, and that has been the case for over a year now, I'd think United would be more than prepared to overcome all these hurdles. What's more concerning is Glazers, they have not been the ones investing in the club but instead are getting the club to pay the dividends.
I'm pretty sure that the pandemic has hit us hard more than any other club in Europe but even so, I think we are more than capable of getting a few deals over the line easily. Also, if you believe we cannot get the player it is certain that we should go looking for players while we still have a chance to negotiate and not in the final week when it is tough to get the target and there is no time to actually get into a negotiation. I'm pretty sure Smalling, Jones, Perriera and Romero knew full well that their services were not required and could've moved on earlier than they are.
Also, BVB set the earlier deadline of Aug 10th because they wanted to find replacements and it would now be very difficult for them to negotiate with any club and that's the sole reason they have decided to keep the player and maybe sell him next summer. I'm sure he'll payback even more then. What's embarrassing for us fans more than anything in the world is that, the club is run by a bunch of idiots and I'm sure you cannot deny that!
January, we go again
If Utd offer 120m euro as guaranteed payments and Dortmund reject it, then I have absolutely no issues with Utd walking away from the deal. I would be gutted but I’d have no issues with the board trying.
I’d be incredibly shocked if Dortmund do turn down a guaranteed 120m euro deal though. Which is why I’ve always believed we will bid the asking price which will be accepted.
I’d be incredibly shocked if Dortmund do turn down a guaranteed 120m euro deal though. Which is why I’ve always believed we will bid the asking price which will be accepted.
I thought it was the opposite? At least based on the latest article from that German newspaper that's very trustworthy when it comes to Dortmund.
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