NinjaFletch
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which one is it
My one. 'Team Rocket blasting off Again' was their catchphrase and the poster mentions both by name.
Now let's pretend this exchange never happened.
which one is it
Not really. It’s an absolutely huge amount of money and these big deals rarely happen on a convenient schedule.In all honesty as fans we should be absolutely seething that we’ve left it this late in the window to make any attempt at a move, frankly it’s a fecking joke.
Isn`t this the same guy who yesterday said BVB won`t sell no matter the offer?
Our biggest hope
How this? I have the feeling Dortmund just want us to f*** off and concentrate on someone else. They do not need to sell Sancho. They have joined the ranks of the European top teams and made a lot of money with their sales, they probably are in a better situation than we are.
Bayern has everything to do with Dortmund. Have you not seen how many Bayern fans have been defending Dortmund on here? It’s big brother looking after little sister.What has FC Bayern to do with United bid for Dortmund player?
Griezmann, Grealish beginning of the window, Haaland, Dybala all say otherwise on the bolded part mate Utd know if they will receive serious backlash from fans if come the end of the window after dropped points all this effort for Sancho was just a flat out lie and an article yesterday said this. And a question if we were to offer 120m here and now do you honestly think BVB will say "Naaah get fecked"?? Especially in a pandemic where such money is far from guaranteed? Even Aubameyang on twitter called out BVB for being hypocrites over the Dembele saga saying that Watzke accepted 100m the moment it was offered. This "deadline" is arbitrary otherwise we wouldn`t STILL be in talks with BVB who have sold key players late in the window more than once Sancho won`t be an extraordinary exception by any means. This still has legs.Because we're still interested and want to sign him whether it's this summer (not happening), or next summer. And we pretty much never go out and say its over. Not sure why anyone would expect a player or club to come out and say its over, apart from the selling club saying he isn't going anywhere, which is what happened.
And in this decade, since 2010/11, they've won the same amount of league titles as United have (2) and finished 2nd 5 times (we finished 2nd twice), won the German cup twice and runners up 3 times (we've won FA Cup once and runners up once, carabao cup doesn't count for any comparative purposes for obvious reasons), have been in the champions league 8 times (finalists x1, QF x2, r16 x3), United being there 7 times (finalists x1, QF x2, r16 x2). We are also front loaded with most of our good points in the past decade being while Sir Alex was here when we were still a big club from a footballing POV. Dortmund are pretty evenly spread out as always being one of the top 2 in Germany, consistently making the CL without too much stress, but falling short of trophies due to competing with Bayern.
We're behind from a footballing sense, not a business sense. They've been a better run football club and a better quality football club for years, it doesn't mean they are bigger, just that we wouldn't be favourites if we came up against them.
Why not? Why does it matter when a world class player signs as long as he signs? As long as the window is open any business that improves us is good business. The notion that it has to be done in the first week or it's shit is fecking stupid to be honest.Not with 3 days left of the window to go, when the season is heavy underway and a feck tonne of negativity around the club, with the lack of incomings being a major reasoning, that's for sure. Also no, I don't agree he wouldn't have made a difference. A world class prospect joining the team would have been a huge bounce for the team.
I also don't agree that I should 'enjoy it'. I don't get enjoyment from seeing us run like a fecking circus
Not sure if this is being overplayed a bit. Our defensive record last year was good, no reason we can't recapture that.Can he play centre back, because that is what we need.
We will see in the next couple of days won't we?We have missed out on a lot of our transfer targets because of this approach. And then there are also countless examples of other clubs doing their business much swifter and negotiating better deals than us. I wonder why is it so different for us, even when we’re negotiating with a near-bankrupt mess of a club like Sporting for a player that quite obviously wants to leave. Either we exist in a completely different reality to the likes of Chelsea, Bayern etc., or there is something inherently wrong with our so-called strategy.
The tactics of delaying our bid to apply more pressure on Dortmund are working like a charm so far, they’re going to crumble any moment now! Any moment...
People have well and truly lost their minds at this point.What does this mean?
Can he play centre back, because that is what we need.
Have you seen our defensive performance against CP and Brighton?Not sure if this is being overplayed a bit. Our defensive record last year was good,
Is Sancho a Club or BLT?We will see in the next couple of days won't we?
People love to bash the club for anything and everything at the moment but you don't see people giving themselves a hard time when they nip to the off licence for a couple of beers and a reduced sandwich 5 minutes before it shuts. You don't see people jumping on Twitter and calling themselves inept because they didn't do it yesterday.
Yeah have to agree. We are held to different standards and on the whole we tend to get our primary targets.We will see in the next couple of days won't we?
People love to bash the club for anything and everything at the moment but you don't see people giving themselves a hard time when they nip to the off licence for a couple of beers and a reduced sandwich 5 minutes before it shuts. You don't see people jumping on Twitter and calling themselves inept because they didn't do it yesterday.
We will see in the next couple of days won't we?
People love to bash the club for anything and everything at the moment but you don't see people giving themselves a hard time when they nip to the off licence for a couple of beers and a reduced sandwich 5 minutes before it shuts. You don't see people jumping on Twitter and calling themselves inept because they didn't do it yesterday.
Our biggest hope
How this? I have the feeling Dortmund just want us to f*** off and concentrate on someone else. They do not need to sell Sancho. They have joined the ranks of the European top teams and made a lot of money with their sales, they probably are in a better situation than we are.
Bayern has everything to do with Dortmund. Have you not seen how many Bayern fans have been defending Dortmund on here? It’s big brother looking after little sister.
If a striker is brought in, will likely be in January transfer window when we lose Ighalo.And Ighalo. Still think atleast one attacker will be brought in.
I would think they were similar if this Burki fella was ill with the same thing too
Can he play centre back, because that is what we need.
Just watching SSN, Dortmund telling Gary Cotteril that they see this negotiation as being the same as the Dembele deal with Barcelona. They will not sell unless they get their price.
And yet BvB said they're not selling.
What has FC Bayern to do with United bid for Dortmund player?
We're never going to pay €120m straight cash
Yeah, Dortmund have an 'Anyone But United' clause that comes into effect on October 6th.Why do journos talk like we can get Sancho next summer no problem? Does a clause kick in?
Aubameyang and Dembele forced their way out after clubs met the asking price and Dortmund still refused. So we need to meet 120m AND Sancho needs to throw a strop. It just isn't happening.Griezmann, Grealish beginning of the window, Haaland, Dybala all say otherwise on the bolded part mate Utd know if they will receive serious backlash from fans if come the end of the window after dropped points all this effort for Sancho was just a flat out lie and an article yesterday said this. And a question if we were to offer 120m here and now do you honestly think BVB will say "Naaah get fecked"?? Especially in a pandemic where such money is far from guaranteed? Even Aubameyang on twitter called out BVB for being hypocrites over the Dembele saga saying that Watzke accepted 100m the moment it was offered. This "deadline" is arbitrary otherwise we wouldn`t STILL be in talks with BVB who have sold key players late in the window more than once Sancho won`t be an extraordinary exception by any means. This still has legs.
They seem to think Covid won’t have a bearing on next Summer but I think it’s absolutely certain clubs will lose more match day revenue from this season so it’s likely to be worse.Why do journos talk like we can get Sancho next summer no problem? Does a clause kick in?
The fact he literally has 'bayern' in his twitter username might be a start.What has FC Bayern to do with Falks twitter acc?
Why do journos talk like we can get Sancho next summer no problem? Does a clause kick in?
The fact he literally has 'bayern' in his twitter username might be a start.
Wait a minute, you're embarrassed by a club not wanting to spend €120m before August 10th during a pandemic? I think you need to reevaluate what embarrasses you.We're just getting embarrassed time and again with these lower bids in spite of all the sharp talks from BVB. I don't understand our transfer policy one bit. Are these guys really that stupid? I mean if you had a lower bid in mind, why didn't you go with it before August 10 and try to keep their eyes open to it. I personally think BVB would've considered a bid close to 100 mil Euros if we had gone in with a bid before August 10. Instead we used that money to get VDB. This is really really frustrating to us fans and I'm sure BVB feel we are just incompetent. I'm very sure now that we will just forget Sancho and try to get Telles and maybe a loan deal for Jovic or someone else.
Also I just learnt that the domestic transfer window deadline is Oct 16 and therefore we can wait and work on a deal for Ismaila Sarr of Watford who are part of the Championship. I think we will get him and end up somewhere mid-table by Dec. Ole will be sacked, we'll get another puppet. Go back in the Jan window and find some low life. Get somewhere close to the Top4. Europa league. Rinse, Repeat! Bye for now!
Please show me where i said i could do his job, he is an inept moron because we have blown a billion pounds under his watch while seeing our club's stature in football plummet. I am sure there are competent people in football who could win titles with a billion pound spend or is that expecting too much."Inept moron" Let me guess, anyone including you would do a better job than him, right?
Did you say any of those things when we signed Di Maria, Sanchez, Falcao, Sweinstiger, Schniderlin, Depay, Pogba or Lukaku? It's amazing how quickly that has become £1b blown when at the time it was well spent.Please show me where i said i could do his job, he is an inept moron because we have blown a billion pounds under his watch while seeing our club's stature in football plummet. I am sure there are competent people in football who could win titles with a billion pound spend or is that expecting too much.