The signs were there. True world class players always shine in their NTs. He was mediocre for England even in his best seasons.
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Is there any example where this has actually worked? in rugby for example, they all just feck off to France.
Lingard scored a fa cup final winner, in the league cup final and community shield.And to think there was lads who thought he was being hard done by, by ETH
Just a more expensive version of Lindgard in the end.
Sancho isn't half the player lingard was for us and lingard wasn't good enough.
He’s still more than young enough to turn it around and have a decent enough career. The quality he showed in his first stint at Dortmund is still there, somewhere. (Definitely not happening here, mind)
I think he needs to pick his permanent move smartly* — massively reduce the expectations placed on him, and when he’s in a league people don’t really tune into and hyperfixate your every move maybe he’ll start performing again.
He should look at Memphis Depay. If he can have a bounce back to his career similar to his after leaving us, he’ll have done alright.
* I guess a big issue on that is he needs to massively reduce salary and we need to try and recoup as much money as we can on his catastrophic failure of a transfer. Tough one.
I think he needs to pick his permanent move smartly* — massively reduce the expectations placed on him, and when he’s in a league people don’t really tune into and hyperfixate your every move maybe he’ll start performing again.
He should look at Memphis Depay. If he can have a bounce back to his career similar to his after leaving us, he’ll have done alright.
* I guess a big issue on that is he needs to massively reduce salary and we need to try and recoup as much money as we can on his catastrophic failure of a transfer. Tough one.
Lingard was good for a solid two years and , as mentioned above, had a influential effect on big games.
He wasn't the worlds best player, obviously, but he was good player. He's become a abit of a joke with the fanbase, some of it arguably down to himself.
But he was a bigger success here compared to Sancho.
He wasn't the worlds best player, obviously, but he was good player. He's become a abit of a joke with the fanbase, some of it arguably down to himself.
But he was a bigger success here compared to Sancho.
How can a hypothetical be pure lies?
Lingard would have torn up the farmers league during that season he had 20g+a under Mourinho. 20g+a in the Prem is equivalent to 40 in the Bundesliga. As so many players have proven.
First, Lingard has never been as talented as Sancho. Second, Bundesliga has never been a farmerlls league. Third, Sancho was as good in Europe as he was domestically.
Him no longer giving a fig about his career, because we pay him too much since he joined us can't change that history.
So yes. All lies....
Lingard was being compared to Sancho as a player. Not based on how they fared for us. Right now compared to Sancho with us, Lingard was Messi.
have not seen anything to suggest that he is anywhere near that. Genuinely speaking, I watched him over and over at united and I still do not know what he is good at.
Sad really that now it looks like there is a proper goal scorer in our ranks that will make the runs someone like a Sancho would try to find.
Weird take, but the main problem is obviously that he’s failed to perform anywhere near the levels he displayed at Dortmund, so not sure how much it helps waching him over and over at United when we know he’s been a failure..I think some are being overly harsh on him based on how his career has panned out, he’s got a great technique, lovely weighted passes and a great vision. His physical problem is that he doesn’t have the outright pace or acceleration to take advantage, and at United he was too often isolated on his own where you depend on teammates making themselves available. He’s a combinations player and unselfish, obviously there‘s more too it, but the Premier League is a much more difficult league where you’ll get less time on the ball, in which case you really need to be a part of a team that plays to your strengths.
My first thought when we bought Højlund was that we’d finally play someone up front that would be suited to Sancho’s strengths, because in terms of pure ability i don‘t think there’s anyone better in our squad to pick out the runs that Højlund is making.
Brought it all on himself unfortunately.
A winger with no pace is like a goalkeeper with no arms….. irrelevan!
I read an article in the guardian that talked about how things had gone wrong for his career at United. It mentioned that we'd scouted him for two years but then said that it was a problem that he preferred to play on the left like it was a surprise to us.
C Ronaldo, Beckham and Ronaldhino were all pretty active in the media.
Biggest myth going. I haven't watched Dortmund this year but I'm guessing they're no longer getting acres of space against high lines when they attack, because I used to watch Dortmund a lot for Sancho when he was there and the thing that stood out the most was the amount of space the attackers had. In the CL and for England he was often a non entity. Sancho would struggle at pretty much every premier league team, which begs the question what his true level is.
i do not follow the bundesliga, so didn’t really see his game there. I know the numbers were good, but like you said, that was a less difficult league. Yes, where I watched him was at united and that was not a pleasant experience. Disappointed as i wanted him to succeed, really cant say i saw any indication of that unfortunately. What i saw was poor dribbling, poor crossing and lack of speed which is probably a prerequisite for a modern winger.
Is it really there? I've seen guys like Taraabt, Wilshere and Martial do more than he ever did for us. If the talent is there, they are usually inconsistent but occasionally put in 8/10 or 9/10 performances.
I can't really recall a single good performance by Sancho for United.
Just like scholes and andy cole right?
Scholes was great for England up until the ealry 2000's
Andy Cole never got a fair shot with England (compared with other strikers who were given lots of time/chances etc.)... the first time he got an actual run of games for England was in 2000 (!) - at the end of which he had finally found his groove and had two games in a row where he scored one and assisted two... after that he only ever started one more game for England (5 months later)
He was excellent in the UCL as well for Dortmund, so he wasn’t quite just a Bundes merchant. But from what I can tell, he simply didn’t give much of a feck about improving or getting any better after he got his huge money move, and instead he slowly got worse over time while also learning that physically he was very mediocre for the PL.
A hungrier more driven player would have improved every other aspect of his game to make up for the fact that he wasn’t particularly pacey or explosive 1v1, but Sancho didn’t. He just played when he was asked, did alright sometimes while being shit other times, and enjoyed the celebrity. Sad to see because there was genuine footballing talent there, especially with regards to how he saw the game as a playmaker. Doesn’t mean shit though if you don’t care.
We’re all watching this from our armchairs but it does seem as though Sancho has not only a mentality problem, but a mental health problem. Recall that he was given three months off last season and by all accounts he did not suffer a physical injury at the time.
INEOS is like feck that waster.
The Glazers would have welcomed him back with a pay raise if they tanked ETH.
If he's suffering then I hope he gets help.
nah he’s just fecking lazy.
Could be, but you have to be crazy -- perhaps literally mentally ill -- to behave in such a manner when you're raking in 350k/week.
Watching him against PSV tonight, and he is so unbelievably crap. Every counter attack stops with him, because he loses the ball in some weird way. He looks totally off
Probably because going through his head is the fact that he will no longer be earning mega bucks at Old Trafford doing feck all like the other French mercenary in our squad that's constantly injured.
But is he playing with a smile on his face?
His touch and control is really poor lately.
Good luck to him. Didn’t work out here for him as it hasn’t for many others. Since the Dele Alli interview It re-emphasised to me we don’t know what’s going on with certain guys and the reasons for things unravelling are complex. As much blame lies with our research into his temperament and recruitment style as anything.
He is really not doing much in their game tonight so far. Seems to just be a step behind all the time. Hope he improves and BVB decide to keep him.
Subbed after 68mins. Poor performance, hasn't contributed on either side of the pitch.
As I predicted. Road towards leagues in Asia, Middle East or second grade leagues is underway.
If we could get 10m for this guy club should not hesitate.
If we could get 10m for this guy club should not hesitate.
He'll be grinning every night you'd think. The unthinkable contract we gave him. Has so much money he probably doesn't know what to do with it.
Yep. This guy has absolutely no interest in being a professional footballer anymore.
My prediction is looking fantastic
I’d say we’ve more chance getting a transfer fee off an E-Sports team than a football club at this stage.
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