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Training like a beast :lol: :lol:
It's so cringeworthy as you can tell these journalists are reporting it as the message is sent to them. That clown from Sky Sports was literally spewing the shit from his mouth on that video that was fed to him directly via message from one of our players.

These 'journalists' are scum and I'm glad the club has grown a backbone to ban them.
 
Highly unlikely there will be a new manager in January and Sancho can be offloaded, maybe not to recoup the money we spent but I would say its more likely that Sancho gets sold in January than Ten Hag getting sacked.

As I understand it, Jadon is on 350pw. No club buys that contract.

If results continue to deteriorate, the board will hit the eject button.
 
It's so cringeworthy as you can tell these journalists are reporting it as the message is sent to them. That clown from Sky Sports was literally spewing the shit from his mouth on that video that was fed to him directly via message from one of our players.

These 'journalists' are scum and I'm glad the club has grown a backbone to ban them.

And several people on these forums are using it as a weapon to attack ETH with. Fecking pathetic.
 
As I understand it, Jadon is on 350pw. No club buys that contract.

If results continue to deteriorate, the board will hit the eject button.
Jesus wept, he isn't on £350k a week :lol:
 
Apologies. 250pm…9.04% of United’s player payroll.

Which club buys that contract?
Probably not many, but he is still an attractive purchase for a fair few clubs, and considering he'll probably jump at the chance of leaving am sure he would accept a lower wage from another club.
 
Oh ya!! Unleash the beast!!



It's pretty weak that only 'several' of the squad want him back (and this, you would have to assume is coming directly from Sancho's people so biased in his favour)

Isn't the inverse of that statement that the vast majority don't want him back or aren't bothered?
 
I rather see him “Acting like a grown-up‘ rather than training like a beast. Even the picture the Caf uses on his profile screams ‘I’m a smug fecker.’
 
I hope we don't sell him in January, if ETH is still here then loan him, if he's not here then Sancho will get a chance with the new manager. His stock is so low now that the fee we would get would likely be abysmal.
 
I hope we don't sell him in January, if ETH is still here then loan him, if he's not here then Sancho will get a chance with the new manager. His stock is so low now that the fee we would get would likely be abysmal.

Would send a great signal to the rest of the players.

Sancho needs to be booted out of the club as soon as we get the chance to do so.
 
I hope we don't sell him in January, if ETH is still here then loan him, if he's not here then Sancho will get a chance with the new manager. His stock is so low now that the fee we would get would likely be abysmal.
It's either an abysmal fee or it's allowing him to worm his way back into the team, while we endure more abysmal performances from him. I'll take the crappy fee thanks.
 
Surely this ongoing discussion is pointless.
Sancho has burnt his bridges and regardless of whether ETH remains as the manager or not, he needs to be shipped out the door, as soon as it's possible.
 
I hope we don't sell him in January, if ETH is still here then loan him, if he's not here then Sancho will get a chance with the new manager. His stock is so low now that the fee we would get would likely be abysmal.
So give him exactly what he wants? Absolutely not. Has done nothing in a United shirt AND regardless of what he has done he is way too unprofessional. Get rid.
 
Would send a great signal to the rest of the players.

Sancho needs to be booted out of the club as soon as we get the chance to do so.
It's either an abysmal fee or it's allowing him to worm his way back into the team, while we endure more abysmal performances from him. I'll take the crappy fee thanks.
So give him exactly what he wants? Absolutely not. Has done nothing in a United shirt AND regardless of what he has done he is way too unprofessional. Get rid.

I don’t really know what happened behind the scenes, how bad his behavior was and what went down between him and The Disciplinarian. For all I know he may have been 1 minute late to a training or brought a Nintendo to a team bus against the rules. Unless I’ve missed something, whatever happened has been quite scarcely documented.

I don’t think the next manager is going to care anyway, he will assess Sancho based on what he sees, and if likes what he sees then he will give him a chance.

His performances on the pitch have been poor for us but most were willing to still give him time to improve before ETH’s comments.
 
I don’t really know what happened behind the scenes, how bad his behavior was and what went down between him and The Disciplinarian. For all I know he may have been 1 minute late to a training or brought a Nintendo to a team bus against the rules. Unless I’ve missed something, whatever happened has been quite scarcely documented.

I don’t think the next manager is going to care anyway, he will assess Sancho based on what he sees, and if likes what he sees then he will give him a chance.

His performances on the pitch have been poor for us but most were willing to still give him time to improve before ETH’s comments.
He was showing up late for training and playing video games instead of sleeping. It is entirely up to him. He reached the end of the road with Ten Hag, who has no more time for him.
 
A thought- If we play Sancho,Casemiro,Eriksen,Antony do you think we will have a balanced midfield? Put Bruno as a 10 and Rasmus/Martial upfront and I believe it will solve a lot of our problems
 
Lest we forget Sancho was one of our best performers as a false 9. He was fit and pressing intensely. For some reason Ten Hag brought him off the bench at left-wing. Against Wolves we started to control the game better, against Spurs the game (and Sancho’s head) were probably already gone.



You still trust Ten Hag’s judgement after our horrible form since the 7-0 at Anfield? You still trust his judgment as he persists with this 3-1-6 system that has seen us concede the same type of goal and show the same flaws over and over again? He can’t even assess and correct the same repeated problems we are seeing on the pitch!
questioning ETH’s judgment doesn’t necessarily mean Sancho has been wronged. He’s been shit since he joined with questionable effort levels on the pitch, never mind off of it.
 
Lest we forget Sancho was one of our best performers as a false 9. He was fit and pressing intensely. For some reason Ten Hag brought him off the bench at left-wing. Against Wolves we started to control the game better, against Spurs the game (and Sancho’s head) were probably already gone.



You still trust Ten Hag’s judgement after our horrible form since the 7-0 at Anfield? You still trust his judgment as he persists with this 3-1-6 system that has seen us concede the same type of goal and show the same flaws over and over again? He can’t even assess and correct the same repeated problems we are seeing on the pitch!
You have a very strange memory of Sancho as a false nine. He was fine but pulled up absolutely no trees and I certainly don't remember him pressing intensely. Aren't you the same poster that said he apologised in private? Did you ever get a source for that?
 
Probably not many, but he is still an attractive purchase for a fair few clubs, and considering he'll probably jump at the chance of leaving am sure he would accept a lower wage from another club.

this almost never, ever happens.
 
I don’t really know what happened behind the scenes, how bad his behavior was and what went down between him and The Disciplinarian. For all I know he may have been 1 minute late to a training or brought a Nintendo to a team bus against the rules. Unless I’ve missed something, whatever happened has been quite scarcely documented.

I don’t think the next manager is going to care anyway, he will assess Sancho based on what he sees, and if likes what he sees then he will give him a chance.

His performances on the pitch have been poor for us but most were willing to still give him time to improve before ETH’s comments.
Matic said it yesterday. The squad had a serious problem with timekeeping with Sancho and Pogba being the main culprits and it got so bad they racked up £75k in late fines. Sancho has been suspended by Dortmund for disciplinary issues and I think one of City/England too. These are things that are out in the open.

Even if that were not true. His statement was unacceptable but what's more concerning is that he is not apologising. All he has to do is apologise and he will be back in the team. Even if he was right, the correct thing to do is just apologise and get back on the pitch. I don't see how any pro footballer at 23 is WILLINGLY not playing and can also be good enough for United. If he's not willing to sacrifice his pride just this one instance, what makes you think he has the mentality to play for us?

He would have some argument if had even 1 good game for us, but he hasn't.

Also 'The Disciplinarian' gave him 3 months off during the most packed part of our schedule to sort himself out.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ls-sleeping-problem-has-caused-late-borussia/

He admitted himself he clearly has problems with discipline!
 
Matic said it yesterday. The squad had a serious problem with timekeeping with Sancho and Pogba being the main culprits and it got so bad they racked up £75k in late fines. Sancho has been suspended by Dortmund for disciplinary issues and I think one of City/England too. These are things that are out in the open.

Even if that were not true. His statement was unacceptable but what's more concerning is that he is not apologising. All he has to do is apologise and he will be back in the team. Even if he was right, the correct thing to do is just apologise and get back on the pitch. I don't see how any pro footballer at 23 is WILLINGLY not playing and can also be good enough for United. If he's not willing to sacrifice his pride just this one instance, what makes you think he has the mentality to play for us?

He would have some argument if had even 1 good game for us, but he hasn't.

Also 'The Disciplinarian' gave him 3 months off during the most packed part of our schedule to sort himself out.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ls-sleeping-problem-has-caused-late-borussia/

He admitted himself he clearly has problems with discipline!

I always struggle with these 'battle of wills' type scenarios when you're stance is so one-sided. Everything you could say about Sancho, for example, being stupidly unwilling to sacrifice his pride/principles could also be levelled at Ten Hag. If you can accept that this is SO important to Ten Hag that he cannot be seen top back down, why can't you simply reverse that concept for Sancho? This argument, i must admit, *entirely* relies on Sancho genuinely believing he is in the right (and i personally have my doubts). But if he does, if Sancho really believes he has been wronged, then he's doing no worse than EtH.
 
How much money is he on again? £373 000

He really couldn't give a feck getting that ^^

Alexis Sanchez rinsed the club as well. These guys are stealing a living doing the absolute bare minimum.
 
If ETH stays or goes, it shouldn't matter regarding Sancho's Utd career. They should tell him he is no longer wanted at the club period. A marker needs to be laid down. He should be made an example of and told to fcuk off basically.
 
questioning ETH’s judgment doesn’t necessarily mean Sancho has been wronged. He’s been shit since he joined with questionable effort levels on the pitch, never mind off of it.

Let’s not re-write history and make out like Sancho had been sh*t as you say. He hasn’t lived up to his pricetag and past form, yes. But he has had his moments.

Jadon entered a dysfunctional club towards the end of the Ole era without a pre-season, recovering from illness and the social media pile on following the missed penalty in the Euro final.

During his first season he scored at Stamford Bridge and the Etihad and was our second best attacker after Cristiano in the Ragnick spell, with particularly great performances at Elland Road and at home vs Burnley.

In ETH’s first season, he started out well. The goal against Liverpool turned our season around and he also got the winning goal at Leicester. After the 3 month absence he came back and had some good games: rescued the game off the bench vs. Leeds, a nice cameo in the #10 at home vs Leicester, a lovely goal at Spurs, argubaly MoTM vs. Chelsea.

He was certainly picking up momentum and came back to pre-season fit and firing. Ultimately he never got a chance in a role he was shining in and now we are in a situation whereby our forwards have 4 goals in 15 league games with 3 of them coming in one game.

So Sancho has been banned from even the canteen and there has been no return in terms of squad moral or goals. Of course, you will still stand by the manager’s decision because you believe every word of the character assasinations that have been subsequently briefed to the press in order to justify this egotistical fraud’s crazy decisions. :rolleyes:

You have a very strange memory of Sancho as a false nine. He was fine but pulled up absolutely no trees and I certainly don't remember him pressing intensely. Aren't you the same poster that said he apologised in private? Did you ever get a source for that?

Feel free to rewatch the Arsenal game where Sancho scored playing as a false 9 and also the Dortmund game where he was playing very well in the first half while the A-listers such as Bruno and Rashford came off the bench in the second half. Similarly, you can watch the Athletic Bilbao game where he performed brilliantly as a false 9 in a team with reserves such as Forson and Pellistri. All of the compilations are there for you to see on Youtube.

As for the point on the apology, I’ll hold my hands up and say I misremembered. Here is the article I had in my head: https://theathletic.com/4915182/2023/10/26/jadon-sancho-manchester-united-apology-row/?amp=1

The key quote:

“Ten Hag wanted an apology to his face, which the club would then communicate publicly as a means of contextualising Sancho’s return to the squad. Sancho pushed back against this double acknowledgment of wrongdoing.”

Essentially, Ten Hag created the condition that the apology would have to be public and Sancho (rightly) would have seen this as both humiliating and an acceptance that what he felt was an assasination of his professional commitment as true. Either way, Sancho deleted the statement. The line should have been crossed there. Instead Ten Hag has dug himself into a hole he can’t get out of because he thinks that he is a high school principal working with schoolchildren.
 
Let’s not re-write history and make out like Sancho had been sh*t as you say. He hasn’t lived up to his pricetag and past form, yes. But he has had his moments.

Jadon entered a dysfunctional club towards the end of the Ole era without a pre-season, recovering from illness and the social media pile on following the missed penalty in the Euro final.

During his first season he scored at Stamford Bridge and the Etihad and was our second best attacker after Cristiano in the Ragnick spell, with particularly great performances at Elland Road and at home vs Burnley.

In ETH’s first season, he started out well. The goal against Liverpool turned our season around and he also got the winning goal at Leicester. After the 3 month absence he came back and had some good games: rescued the game off the bench vs. Leeds, a nice cameo in the #10 at home vs Leicester, a lovely goal at Spurs, argubaly MoTM vs. Chelsea.

He was certainly picking up momentum and came back to pre-season fit and firing. Ultimately he never got a chance in a role he was shining in and now we are in a situation whereby our forwards have 4 goals in 15 league games with 3 of them coming in one game.

So Sancho has been banned from even the canteen and there has been no return in terms of squad moral or goals. Of course, you will still stand by the manager’s decision because you believe every word of the character assasinations that have been subsequently briefed to the press in order to justify this egotistical fraud’s crazy decisions. :rolleyes:



Feel free to rewatch the Arsenal game where Sancho scored playing as a false 9 and also the Dortmund game where he was playing very well in the first half while the A-listers such as Bruno and Rashford came off the bench in the second half. Similarly, you can watch the Athletic Bilbao game where he performed brilliantly as a false 9 in a team with reserves such as Forson and Pellistri. All of the compilations are there for you to see on Youtube.

As for the point on the apology, I’ll hold my hands up and say I misremembered. Here is the article I had in my head: https://theathletic.com/4915182/2023/10/26/jadon-sancho-manchester-united-apology-row/?amp=1

The key quote:

“Ten Hag wanted an apology to his face, which the club would then communicate publicly as a means of contextualising Sancho’s return to the squad. Sancho pushed back against this double acknowledgment of wrongdoing.”

Essentially, Ten Hag created the condition that the apology would have to be public and Sancho (rightly) would have seen this as both humiliating and an acceptance that what he felt was an assasination of his professional commitment as true. Either way, Sancho deleted the statement. The line should have been crossed there. Instead Ten Hag has dug himself into a hole he can’t get out of because he thinks that he is a high school principal working with schoolchildren.
Yup, I know the games you're talking about and he was decent but not amazing. And that sample size is dwarfed by the number of games he's been poor or anonymous. I also think it's telling when the game you're calling him brilliant (brilliant is an enormous exaggeration) has him playing in a second string team against a second rate side.

Glad you accept that Sancho wouldn't apologize at all, though.

Of all the players to jump on board to defend...why Sancho?! He's shown nothing playing for us, cost us a fortune and taken the piss while doing it.
 
Let’s not re-write history and make out like Sancho had been sh*t as you say. He hasn’t lived up to his pricetag and past form, yes. But he has had his moments.

Jadon entered a dysfunctional club towards the end of the Ole era without a pre-season, recovering from illness and the social media pile on following the missed penalty in the Euro final.

During his first season he scored at Stamford Bridge and the Etihad and was our second best attacker after Cristiano in the Ragnick spell, with particularly great performances at Elland Road and at home vs Burnley.

In ETH’s first season, he started out well. The goal against Liverpool turned our season around and he also got the winning goal at Leicester. After the 3 month absence he came back and had some good games: rescued the game off the bench vs. Leeds, a nice cameo in the #10 at home vs Leicester, a lovely goal at Spurs, argubaly MoTM vs. Chelsea.

He was certainly picking up momentum and came back to pre-season fit and firing. Ultimately he never got a chance in a role he was shining in and now we are in a situation whereby our forwards have 4 goals in 15 league games with 3 of them coming in one game.

So Sancho has been banned from even the canteen and there has been no return in terms of squad moral or goals. Of course, you will still stand by the manager’s decision because you believe every word of the character assasinations that have been subsequently briefed to the press in order to justify this egotistical fraud’s crazy decisions. :rolleyes:



Feel free to rewatch the Arsenal game where Sancho scored playing as a false 9 and also the Dortmund game where he was playing very well in the first half while the A-listers such as Bruno and Rashford came off the bench in the second half. Similarly, you can watch the Athletic Bilbao game where he performed brilliantly as a false 9 in a team with reserves such as Forson and Pellistri. All of the compilations are there for you to see on Youtube.

As for the point on the apology, I’ll hold my hands up and say I misremembered. Here is the article I had in my head: https://theathletic.com/4915182/2023/10/26/jadon-sancho-manchester-united-apology-row/?amp=1

The key quote:

“Ten Hag wanted an apology to his face, which the club would then communicate publicly as a means of contextualising Sancho’s return to the squad. Sancho pushed back against this double acknowledgment of wrongdoing.”

Essentially, Ten Hag created the condition that the apology would have to be public and Sancho (rightly) would have seen this as both humiliating and an acceptance that what he felt was an assasination of his professional commitment as true. Either way, Sancho deleted the statement. The line should have been crossed there. Instead Ten Hag has dug himself into a hole he can’t get out of because he thinks that he is a high school principal working with schoolchildren.

In the beginning of your post, I was going to answer that I agree: Many have underplayed that Sancho had quite a few promising outings, and several games where he wasn’t so bad at all, particularily compared with some, even more struggling teammates. OK, it was never neither quite up to expectations nor up to the standard wanted for a M Utd key player, but many players take time to get into a stride.

After a while of reading, though, I was honestly beginning to wonder if this is a post from someone hired by Sancho’s management to create a user account on Utd’s biggest online forum to try to turn the PRdisaster tide.

In the end, though, I concluded that only Sancho himself would be able to come up with the ‘egotistical fraud’-line and not censor it out.
 
I always struggle with these 'battle of wills' type scenarios when you're stance is so one-sided. Everything you could say about Sancho, for example, being stupidly unwilling to sacrifice his pride/principles could also be levelled at Ten Hag. If you can accept that this is SO important to Ten Hag that he cannot be seen top back down, why can't you simply reverse that concept for Sancho? This argument, i must admit, *entirely* relies on Sancho genuinely believing he is in the right (and i personally have my doubts). But if he does, if Sancho really believes he has been wronged, then he's doing no worse than EtH.
The difference is there is more evidence of Sancho's ill-discipline, under different 4 managers, than Ten Hag's being overly disciplinary.
 
Must really lack ambition. Look at how Jude and Erling are performing. This guy is just throwing away his career.
 
Of all the players to jump on board to defend...why Sancho?! He's shown nothing playing for us, cost us a fortune and taken the piss while doing it.

After a while of reading, though, I was honestly beginning to wonder if this is a post from someone hired by Sancho’s management to create a user account on Utd’s biggest online forum to try to turn the PRdisaster tide.

In the end, though, I concluded that only Sancho himself would be able to come up with the ‘egotistical fraud’-line and not censor it out.

OK - allow me to explain why I am pro-Sancho in this drama.

First of all, I didn’t fully agree with us signing Sancho in the first place. I do think he’s a special player, stylistically similar to Neymar and Grealish albeit not as good. I like his composure, his eye for pass and his close control. But my two objections were as follows:

1. He is better as a left-winger and this is also Rashford’s best position. I don’t think it was a good idea to have two of the best young English talents - at the time - worth close to £80 million - competing for the same spot.

2. He is like Joao Felix in that his skillset is best served to a possession-based system where he has options and runners moving around him where he can connect the play. It was stylistically a mismatch for us given that we were, at the time, building around Bruno, who is better in a transition / counter-attack model where he is free to ping balls into space. Sancho can chase those balls, but he is not blessed with great speed.

Nonetheless, Sancho still has his uses. In the low-blocks that we used to come up against he had potential to shine in tight spaces. He offered an alternative to Rashford, who is a head-down winger that just runs at defenders and tries to cut inside and shoot. Furthermore, Sancho’s composure and eye for a pass is also extremely useful in transitions as his decision-making is generally spotless. For example, you can see how he dominated against Chelsea at home last season.

Either way, I would not have objected to Ten Hag putting him up for sale in the summer. It would have been the best move for both parties. He would go to a team more suited to his strengths, whereas we could replace him with a faster and more direct winger suited to the transitions that Ten Hag wants. But this ultimately never happened.

Ten Hag gave Sancho a go in the false 9 in pre-season but not when the season started. This raised my eyebrow. I thought Sancho in the false 9 could work well. It suits his strengths more. He can drop deep, combine with players, make more use of his close control, it wouldn’t expose him to a 1-on-1 situations outwide where he can get outpaced by fullbacks and he would also put his eye for pass to great use if we get play through balls in behind to Rashford. Yet when the season started, Sancho was given sub-appearances off the bench on left-wing.

But this alone wasn’t enough to make me turn on Ten Hag. It was the sheer fact that he called him out in the press conference and questioned his professionalism. That was a low blow and totally unnecessary. It was a cowardly move. He did it to a squad player in a crisis of confidence, kicking him when he is already down. He disrespected the club by tumbling the value of a club asset that we may, in the future, need to recoup. Who the hell would drop even £30m on a player who’s manager has called him out for being a bad professional? The incident was also bad for the prestige of the club. We’re supposed to be, literally, united. Us vs. the world. And here you have a manager publicly criticising his player, which is something that similiarly annoyed me about Jose and LvG.

The incident also made me realise that Ten Hag is too small for this club. This innocuous throwaway comment created a scandal. He should have foreseen that backing Sancho into a corner like this would have ramifications.

Moreover, when the playing staff, a crucial stakeholder for our success, see one of their own get criticised in public, it makes them lose respect for the manager as they wonder if they will be next in line for this sort of public humiliation.

On top of all of this, Ten Hag or the club showed their really nasty side with briefings attacking his character. This is a player with a history of mental health issues lest we forget. And then banishing Sancho to the extent that he can’t even go to the canteen? This was when I realise that Ten Hag simply does not have the character or personality for a club of this magnitude. You cannot simply come to United and throw your weight around like it is your personal little dictatorship, especially not when you have done so little in the game.

The whole situation was totally avoidable. Even if it was the case that Sancho wasn’t training right, there was no need to throw him under the bus. The negatives consequences of that - financially, squad morale and ethically - far outweighed the postives. The only positive for Ten Hag here is the total humiliation of Sancho, which has not earned him respect from the players, but rather disdain.

It was horrible judgement from Ten Hag, who behaved as though he is bigger than the club. The decision to call out Sancho and subsequently banish him has backfired in every way. Whether Sancho is still here or not, I’m not really bothered. But the whole incident proves why Ten Hag does not have the personality to manage this club and his ego will continue to hold us back unless he is removed.
 
It really does,

that players on massive contracts take pay cuts? Can you give a few examples? I can’t think of many off the top of my head, certainly not a comparable situation to sancho. Alexis Sanchez maybe one for us?
 
No, I mean exactly what I said, which is from what we are able to see of it - reports from multiple sources that have him as a poor trainer and someone that turns up late with regularity.

Reports like this most recent of stories or are we only fixating on negative ones surrounding computer games?

Funnily enough him turning up late regularly to training at City didn’t stop him getting a move to Germany, just as him turning up late in Germany led to multiple England Caps & a big money move.

You’re fixating on the result not the action. Sancho has turned up late throughout his career (not ideal but it is what it is) & has been relatively successful up until joining United. You’d have to be rather naive to assume other footballers are not late.
I'm not sure what you're on about re a statute of limitations but on current evidence he is anything but a hard worker. Do you disagree with that?
On current evidence he’s working like ‘a beast’. (See above) a since being banished from the squad reports have actually been positive, apparently he’s turning up doing his bit & going home.

I don’t know how hard he’s working, nor do you. You’d have to define what a ‘hard worker’ is for someone that can’t play games for further comment.
You said: He’s a (former, probably) England International who earnt a move to the biggest club in the world (we are) having relocated to a foreign country in his teens from perhaps the best run youth academy in football. Most people would recognise that as hard work but he won’t apologise to his boss over a disagreement his boss started so let’s ignore those facts.

This implies that people erroneously no longer view him as a hard worker because he won't apologise to ETH. Or else what relevance does the latter part (not apologising to his boss) have to the former (Sancho being a hard worker)? You're implying that the argument with ETH has stopped him from being able to continue the hard work that got him to where he is. This obviously conveniently ignores the other people that have questioned his work ethic/professionalism in the past, including Southgate, Matic, Guardiola and Favre.
You’ve an awful habit of drawing conclusions not from what I write but what you’d like to argue with.

You're implying that the argument with ETH has stopped him from being able to continue the hard work that got him to where he is.’. I’m really not.
It's all relative to the industry you're in and the people you're around. Some are so gifted that they can get away with putting in significantly less effort than others while still succeeding and I would place Sancho among these people. I would hazard that the majority of PL footballers have had to work harder than Sancho to get where they are because most are not as naturally gifted. This is obviously totally unquantifiable, of course, but just my opinion.
Since when has a player playing multiple times for his country & getting a big money move to Manchester United been relative. You simply do not get those accolades doing nothing, there is an element of hard work. To dismiss it as relative is ridiculous.

Thank god you caveated the last piece as your opinion. It’s irrelevant.
Your post was insinuating that people express the opinion that Sancho is a lazy, unprofessional waste of money because they're jealous. Which is bizarre.
No I posed a reason. You’d have to have a rather dim view of someone you’ve never met to assume I think all fans are jealous of his money.

If you return to the post I was responding to, I’m not the only poster to notice how preoccupied some posters are with what he earns.

What is bizarre is not asking for clarification on things I post that you clearly do not understand, instead making negative leaps. I can only write so much, just because I don’t feel obligated to shout about Sancho’s work rate or professionalism does not mean I don’t question them.

You have to allow space for people to discuss things other than your preoccupations here. I can go to any Sancho thread & read posts from people with very little information commenting on thinks such as his work rate, I’m broadening the conversation.

Again. This is boring. I’m happy to go back & forth over why we feel how we do but arguing about what I haven’t said nor mean is getting repetitive.

Caveat: I believe Sancho could have handled this better. His performances are indefensible. I would not be against selling him. Etc. Etc.
 
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