Good. I'd like to see him succeed at United, but I also wouldn't be bothered if he goes. A good performance in a CL semi final will only increase his value.
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Wasn't Di Maria man of the match in a Champions league final one time?
Meanwhile Dortmund is playing in the CL Semi Final with a leg in the final and Man UTd failed to qualify again next season.
No matter how good he plays or how amazing he is, I hope this club never takes him back. For me, all the skill in the world is nothing without determination/perserverence. Sancho maybe showing some of that fight now but how long will it last? He was ready to sit on his backside out of the first team for what felt like half a season. He doesnt have what all the top players that want to win things have.
They could win the UCL and it wouldn't make a difference mate. Sancho has had terrible games for Dortmund since he joined them but they aren't heavily scrutinised by fans, media etc.
He has one of those games here he's getting 100,000 mentions on twitter on how shite he is and the class of 92 is on tv saying he needs to be dropped. The pressure isn't comparable.
With all due respect to Dortmund, it's a whole different type of pressure here. You can tell, he looks scared here he doesn't even want the ball. At Dortmund his confidence is on another level. He's like a completely different player.
You have to consider he was honed and crafted for City's football, and I suppose any offshoot of it. Within that set up, he either advances or passes to advance and receive and his physical limitations become secondary.
It's not Dortmund nor die Bundesliga as he was shining at every level on his way up and was always a golden child/starboy playing in the exact same manner. At City, there are multiples of him and a lot less opportunity to isolate any one player. He's the antithesis of a kick and rush footballer or maverick soloist and yet he always shone and was earmarked for the top.
The question I'd ask of the league is how many teams could or would setup to accommodate wide-playmakers. We've seen very few of them over the last couple of decades.
Some of y'all need to soak this in..... Applies to many more than Sancho. I've been saying this for a while now.... The reaction on here and online to players off form and/or going thru off pitch stuff just bellies a misunderstanding of people, players, others.... and sometimes a callousness too
Never a great look
Sancho would probably be everything we hoped he would be under Sir Alex
We had plenty of players that weren't perfect fits for the team. Few (if any) were as bad as Sancho. He did no better than most of the teenagers we've played since he arrived.
I'd rather a hard working and available player who adds little over a lazy player who adds little except for tweets contradicting the manager.
Neither was Ole, Ragnick or Southgate apparently.
Our sole priority with him should be selling him for as much as possible. I doubt we'd get a better price after a year of his poor performances here than immediately after a champions league final (hopefully) so we should aim to sell him this summer rather than take him back so he can spend a year playing FIFA.
I find this comment interesting, lots of people say it. Looking at our players I would argue there is absolutely feck all pressure on players at united. I'm not sure what pressure anyone is referring to.
I don't care if his form is bad. What bothers me is that he contradicted the manager after him backing him for over a season and even giving him time off, then he refused to apologise and just waited at home for months for the manager to be sacked.
I think their complete lack of confidence shows they feel the pressure. It's like they know they're going to be mocked. The likes of Jones and Maguire were national punchlines and Rashford seems overly aware of it.
Did you entertain the thought that you might not know the whole story? Probably not.....
I did but until I hear otherwise, I can only go on what I know. Its pretty obvious he's not afraid of speaking out anyway and yet we haven't heard anything.
Hopefully makes the final and we can get a good fee for him. £40m would be phenomenal business. He's never going to make it in the prem, his physical limitations against tighter and stronger defences are just too big. Bundesliga or French league are right down his street
A lot of bitterness in here tbh
A little OTT here. It was a good performance but one of the all time greatest? No
Doesn't really answer my question
It's very different being able to be part of a team like Dortmund and do well, to being under the spotlight and pressure of United.
I suspect that Antony would look good at Dortmund, and Rashford would look almost like a decent player even!
Dortmund having a dig seems silly if they want to buy him. If he's so great and you know how to get the best from him then you'll be happy to pay big money right?
I suspect that Antony would look good at Dortmund, and Rashford would look almost like a decent player even!
Dortmund having a dig seems silly if they want to buy him. If he's so great and you know how to get the best from him then you'll be happy to pay big money right?
I don't think there is a big confidence problem, they don't look like they care. The effort in our team is low, they don't seem to care about what anyone says, and they certainly don't do anything to show it. I think playing for united is one of the easiest football jobs currently.
What pressure though? Doesn't matter if you are bad and play poorly because at united they will keep playing you. There are no minimum standards really, no real pressure at all.
Hopefully we can get a sum for him now. Dortmund having training at 10 seems to do wonders for Sancho. Too bad he can't get up at 9, we might has a player then
Reminds me of when Lingard was balling for West Ham.
Both have the entirely wrong mentality, and aren’t that talented to boot. Sell Sancho while we still have a chance.
Both have the entirely wrong mentality, and aren’t that talented to boot. Sell Sancho while we still have a chance.
The fact that over the last 5 games Sancho has had one good performance (this one), one decent performance (last game vs Leipzig) and 3 pretty terrible performances and you and most people in this thread probably didn't even know. He's had one good game in the last 5 and people think he's been sensational overall or something. The difference in pressure is to do with the media and fans, a bad performance at Dortmund isn't like a bad performance at United. If Sancho had a similar run of games to this fixture at United there'd be calls by fans and media pundits that Sancho is rubbish, his head isn't in it and he needs to be dropped but at Dortmund it's not like that.
The guy was literally complaining about mental health, deleted his socials and had to take a 3 month break last season due to that but apparently there's no pressure at United.
Wenger/Arsenal did. Nasri, Rosicky, Helb were not wingers and they all played the wide - playmaker role under Wenger. Cole Palmer and Foden are not really winger either.
Sancho, Palmer and Foden are all from city academy.
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Just like Rashford and Maguire, the issue is not only to agree a transfer fee, but also his existing high salary.
Whilst he played well tonight, he has worse stats than Rashford this season.
He scores at a slower rate than Rashford...this season.
When you look at their goals and assists combined they are both very similar at 1 in 3.
It's just funny that Dortmund seem to think he's the second coming when his stats are just mediocre.
He scores at a slower rate than Rashford...this season.
When you look at their goals and assists combined they are both very similar at 1 in 3.
It's just funny that Dortmund seem to think he's the second coming when his stats are just mediocre.
Sancho deserve a second chance. Ten Hag also deserve a second round of 400 mil.
Don't let him fool you
You ruined my easter egg, but yeah, there's little coincidence to it as going down that route and optimising it, points to very specific styles of play where the 'wide' men are never isolated and can constantly probe from outside to in pinging passes to others.I actually thought we were so keen on Sancho because we were about to change the way we play football, not because we liked the shiny toy who we'd then try and stuff into the ill-constructed football we had been playing.
In terms of getting in the team, maybe not, although it's clear there are also favourites here. But I think there's definitely pressure from the spotlight you're in and profile of the club: both in the media and social media - I think it's pretty clear by now that Sancho is not the kind of player/personality who has been able to handle that.
Social media is a whole new challenge for athletes today. Not sure if you're into basketball but Klay Thompson struggled greatly with it when he was out injured, and he is far more successful, established, and, relative to their respective sports, far more talented than Sancho. He's also a full decade older.
On to today's performance, I thought he played well. He won the ball back high up the pitch a few times. He's not been great since he went back to Dortmund, but this was a marked improvement. Should have had a couple of assists.
Not sure I agree with the posters saying he deserves a second chance at United, I presume this is the first time they've watched him since he went back to Dortmund. I'd like to see them go on and win it, and I would like to see him do well in doing so - it will help with trying to sell him on.
I can see him staying if we change manager and nobody coughs up >~£50m. I don't think Dortmund will pay that much. Our negotiating position is better if we change manager and still want to sell. I can see there being a gap between what we want for him and what we are offered either way but it's pretty much anybody's guess what happens tbh.
Quite bad first half, missed most of his dribbling attempt, several bad passes ruining counters or setting up French counters. He did make a few good turns and rruns as well though, and maybe it helped, because second half he was by far the best player on the pitch.
The weird thing is that he never can even close to a performance like this in a United shirt. One of my issues with him when he played for us was that he almost never dribbles past anyone. Today he has 11 successful dribbles! He lost the ball a relatively large number of time especially in the first half with some misplaced passes but overall he had a very good game. He was full of energy, asking for the ball, wanting to get involved, acting like a leader. Did not see that in a united shirt. It’s weird how players come to united and underperform… it’s like a curse
Hope he performs well so we can ship him off for as much money as possible. Dortmund, give us 100 mil and we'll add Rashford too. In fact ship half our squad to them for all I care
It's pretty simple was has happened with Sancho. Over the years he was getting great training and instruction at City then at Dortmund and he was continuing to improve and grow as a player.
Then he came to United and like 99% of players who have arrived at United since SAF left, any progress as a player has completely stopped and within a year or two, he has regressed to the point where most United supporters are convinced he's crap.
Luckily for Sancho, he may have gotten out in time where he's young enough to salvage his career.
Then he came to United and like 99% of players who have arrived at United since SAF left, any progress as a player has completely stopped and within a year or two, he has regressed to the point where most United supporters are convinced he's crap.
Luckily for Sancho, he may have gotten out in time where he's young enough to salvage his career.
Still think we should keep him if ETH leaves
This is such a wildly inaccurate statement I'm baffled anyone could genuinely think it.
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