Made a big mistake to come and work under Solksjaer, hopefully it wont be for long.
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Sancho has had plenty of game time and he's been average to shite.
There's no issue with his game time. Donny is the one with the real problem.
There's no issue with his game time. Donny is the one with the real problem.
"Plenty of game time"
He started like 3 games or something and was subbed in most of them. If that was the barometer for plenty of gametime, Ole would have dropped Rio, Evra and Vidic after the first month and kept them on the bench for an entire season before selling them for fraction of the price he paid. How can you expect players to perform when they are hardly given a chance?
Still a lot of minutes compared to Donny. A lot of minutes compared to Martial, a lot of minutes compared to Lingard.
Fecking Martial and Lingard have done more with their 10 minutes each.
Another one who will blossom once Ole is gone - he'd thrive under any kind of progressive manager and could play counter + pressing or possession based.
Pretty sure he was in our plan for ages but now that we have him we don't know how to use him.
The ball boy probably has more minutes on the pitch than Donny. That's not the barometer. Sancho has never been given a proper go and until Solskjaer leaves - he probably never will be.
Fairly certain he was meant to be an an explosive winger, then we realised he's not very explosive at all, and needs a 'progressive passing' team to thrive. We are anything but a 'progressive passing' team, so that was some cockup by the scouts right there.
To be fair, I thought he had a lot more acceleration and pace than he's currently showing and I thought he was the exact piece we needed for that right wing. I made that mistake too, but my excuse is that I'm not earning mega money as a professional scout.
For such a stacked attack that we have, he has started and got minutes in plenty of matches. More than some of his peers, which is the only thing we can compare to.
He is lucky he is a £70million signing or I'm sure Ole would have sent him the Donny way from day 1.
Would rather see him than Rashford alongside Ronaldo as one of the two strikers in a 3-5-2. I think he would cover more ground, could score a goal, and would otherwise be an extra feeder to Ronaldo (as well as potentially Bruno). Cavani is still a better option than both in that formation, but I think he has a way in.
We should just freeze Pogba out of the squad (given he's leaving) to fit Sancho and VdB in.
Pogba can't play that deep CM role. Give that to VdB. He's good at that left attacking mid role, but so is Sancho. So let Sancho have that.
I don't mind if Sancho is rotated with Rashford / Greenwood, but having Pogba start over Sancho is just poor planning. We should throw him in and let him sink or swim.
I mean the average Caftard opinion before he signed was that he was a young Mata .. so it can't have been that hard for a scout to say he's more of a Mata than a Hazard.
Pogba can't play that deep CM role. Give that to VdB. He's good at that left attacking mid role, but so is Sancho. So let Sancho have that.
I don't mind if Sancho is rotated with Rashford / Greenwood, but having Pogba start over Sancho is just poor planning. We should throw him in and let him sink or swim.
I mean the average Caftard opinion before he signed was that he was a young Mata .. so it can't have been that hard for a scout to say he's more of a Mata than a Hazard.
Sancho doesn't fit the style of play. Our style of play is "individual brilliance" which is a nice saying, but ultimately will never succeed against strong and better coached teams. "Individual brilliance" works fine against a Watford, Aston Villa, Leeds, but when teh team needs to play as one against a strong opponent, it doesn't work, because the other team has as many good players as you. Jandon's in a situation where he should be playing 1-2 passes, running into space, crossing, getting the ball to teammates and moving into the position. But our style is "pass the ball once, then have that person beat his man and shoot." It's how Rashord plays, he receives the ball and tries to beat his man. Bruno is guility of it with his flick passes, there is no structure to t heir play. It's pick up league tactics. Until the strategy of the team changes, Jandon won't get his chances and if he does, Ole won' tike it, because he isn't dribbling into defenders.
Didn’t Sancho get like 8 games in a row, or that’s what it seemed like.
He had loads of minutes, hard to entirely blame the manager for him not getting a goal or an assist in that time.
For what it’s worth I don’t think he was that bad, just a case of moving to a new league and settling in.
This is exactly what we need to do. Why are we persisting with someone who does not want to be at United, if he does stay it he will demand to be the highest paid player, he doesn't even deserve the wage he is on now with the performances he puts in.
Why can't Ole just play Sancho and VDB who bring urgency and energy, instead he plays these lazy footballers and wonders why we are so open.
Sancho and Bruno’s as dual number 10’s in the Christmas tree formation anyone? Anyone?! 
Sancho looked good in his short cameo. I think he is feeling the pressure to perform now.
Juan Mata is the biggest square peg in our team of round holes in the last 10 years... If that opinion really was true, I'm surprised we signed him.
But as I said, I made a mistake in my idea of Sancho as a player too. Regardless, I don't want to be too negative of him. I do like him and I do think he will get better, but I don't think he will be as good as I hoped he would be.
Just like Juan Mata then..
I think he has looked much faster, mobile and energetic than given credit for. Also for England.
I am sure the caf will now forever hold him to be the next Mata whilst Mata has never left players for dead like him.
I am sure the caf will now forever hold him to be the next Mata whilst Mata has never left players for dead like him.
Yeah pretty much spot on. Both him and Donny need to link up with others and our current system doesn't make that easy.
I reckon he and VDB would be quite good playing together in a normal progressive team.
He's only started 3 games in a row which was Wolves, Newcastle and Young Boys (subbed after the AWB red card though). He's come off the bench a fair bit but he's only had more than 60 minutes in 5 games this season. The only full 90 minutes he's had was in the league cup against West Ham.
He's had enough minutes to get a goal or assist but hasn't performed but I don't think the number of minutes he's had has done him any good either.
Whilst I do get this point as him being a young player, new league, etc. I think you've still just got to be ready when you get a chance and back yourself to impact a game, regardless of how long you get on the pitch. I feel like him and Donny did that against Atalanta with the very brief time they had, but in general, he's not taken his chances.
What system is he supposed to have settled into? There was more organisation in the team that fielded during a Tuesday afternoon PE game of rounders at primary school
At least Mata has the skill. He can curl the ball towards goal from any angle.Juan Mata is the biggest square peg in our team of round holes in the last 10 years... If that opinion really was true, I'm surprised we signed him.
But as I said, I made a mistake in my idea of Sancho as a player too. Regardless, I don't want to be too negative of him. I do like him and I do think he will get better, but I don't think he will be as good as I hoped he would be.
Just like Juan Mata then..
We buy players because they played well for the previous club. You have to ask why so many of the players we've bought suddenly fallen off a cliff performance wise when they join us. It's not a coincidence, we don't keep buying duds. It's due to a completely different (of lack of a) system at our club.Juan Mata is the biggest square peg in our team of round holes in the last 10 years... If that opinion really was true, I'm surprised we signed him.
But as I said, I made a mistake in my idea of Sancho as a player too. Regardless, I don't want to be too negative of him. I do like him and I do think he will get better, but I don't think he will be as good as I hoped he would be.
Just like Juan Mata then..
I guarantee you put a handful of Liverpool or City players in our team and they'd turn to shit.
It needs to keep being repeated and emphasised on this forum that coaching and tactics are absolutely vital to build a functioning team, and therefore to get the best out of players.
I'm reserving judgement until he plays a few games in a row on the right. In a 4231, with Fred and McTominay at the base, you need an additional creator amongst that front 4. The problem is only compounded more when you've got Ronaldo who thrives off service. There is no point having 3 goal scorers in Rashford, Greenwood and Ronaldo, with only Bruno creating anything for anyone.
It's also why we look so much better when Matic comes on, as he can play people in.
It's also why we look so much better when Matic comes on, as he can play people in.
We also have no idea how to deploy players efficiently.
Pogba:
You'd think five years with Pogba would have been enough to realise he can't play on the left with Shaw - but no. He played on the left for Juventus, so therefore that has to be his best position, right? So what if he has to dribble backwards to get the ball to his right foot so he can switch play - let's just ignore that. What do you mean he's at his best roaming further up the pitch and isn't efficient at covering defensive positions? It's his workrate, surely! How many times do you have to watch him walk back into defence to understand that he REALLY doesn't have the concentration to be a defensive cover.
Fred:
Or what about 3 years with Fred? He's agressive and strong so surely he's best employed as a ball-winner or defensive midfielder? Let's ignore the fact that he played his entire career as a Box to box midfielder on the right hand side, and does that for Brazil as well. Our genius idea is that he should be relied upon to cut passing lanes and cover for Shaw on the left.
Maguire:
Then you have Harry Maguire, he's pretty good to be fair, but I know let's make sure he is overwhelmed by playing him in a combination with a bombing left back and either a box to box midfielder or roaming playmaker - both played out of position of course. Surely that will force him to become faster?
And now with Sancho, Bundesliga's most exciting player for two seasons, a roaming winger/forward/attacking midfielder, who is at his best when he gets the space to operate (on either side mind you) - I know let's stick him on an overcrowded left with Pogba and Shaw and expect him to play one twos with Shaw overlapping.
I mean.. do we even watch these players at all before we buy them? In what world is this OK? How are we this oblivious to how our players have historically been used and currently used for their national teams? Are we blindly looking at individual stats, rather than team performance, movements and combinations?
We have some of the most talented and exciting players in the world, with very specific skillsets, and we have absolutely no idea how to use them. If Sancho leaves because of this I'll be so angry - he's a wonderful player who could light this league on fire if utilized correctly...
Exactly this.
Jadon is in danger of never being admitted into the Ole’s favorites club. If you’re not in, you’re out.
Gotta love dumb posts like this. Plenty of game time? He’s had 2 starts in the premier league.
Another dumb post. We could say Sancho has had more minutes than Wayne Rooney this season. Has zero relevance or sense.
Frankly how players, especially new players, are performing under this regime is almost meaningless. Our level of coaching is so remedial that "we're working on holding a defensive shape" is seen as a revelation.
We buy good quality players who show ability in good quality teams who almost exclusively play a progressive style then throw them into a team that can only play on the break and wonder why they don't perform.
Not only are we performing poorly because of it, we're wasting an incredibly talented crop of players. Its almost beyond comprehension how a squad containing Bruno, Sancho, Pogba, Rashford, Greenwood, Ronaldo, Cavani, DvB and Shaw and lead by professional coaches can look so toothless so regularly.
We buy good quality players who show ability in good quality teams who almost exclusively play a progressive style then throw them into a team that can only play on the break and wonder why they don't perform.
Not only are we performing poorly because of it, we're wasting an incredibly talented crop of players. Its almost beyond comprehension how a squad containing Bruno, Sancho, Pogba, Rashford, Greenwood, Ronaldo, Cavani, DvB and Shaw and lead by professional coaches can look so toothless so regularly.
I can’t help but feel he’s being mismanaged with Solskjaer‘s recent mad scramble to get results and stay in the role with his tried and tested favourites.
That's what really hurts. If we just had a shit squad, it would be a little easier to bear. It's the fact that we can clearly see that with better coaches and management, these players would make a fearsome team. Instead they're being put through this. There's only one or two (notably Pogba) who share some of the blame. The rest truly deserve better.
It's not just Ole, though. This has been going on for eight or nine years, except we now have a more talented squad than at any other point in that time. But how many times can we sign a player who has done great elsewhere, watch him flop here, let him move on, and watch him bounce right back at his next club? Di Maria, Depay, Lukaku, etc. In all likelihood Pogba and DVB as well, and potentially Sancho down the line. It happens again and again. Not counting Ronaldo whose circumstances are unique, Bruno is very nearly the only player of already proven quality when we signed him whose performances have not nosedived upon arrival.
I don't know how much of it can be attributed directly to Ole, but there's clearly something deeply dysfunctional at the club. It's also clear by now that regardless of how much he's to blame himself, he's certainly not looking like the man who can fix this problem.
This.
Another career ruined by our coaches. I hope both him and Donny stick around for the next manager to show what they can do, but I wouldn't blame either of them for wanting out ASAP.
Not sure what's happened here. I actually thought he was playing himself into form more and more. He started off slow, granted, but his performances were getting better, IMO. And then...he's out.
Doesn't really have a position if we're going to persevere with this impromptu formation we've changed to.
Doesn't really have a position if we're going to persevere with this impromptu formation we've changed to.
If we get Potter or Ten Hag, I think Sancho will do great.
Sancho has played 522 mins so far this season.
In comparison, Bruno has 1210 mins, Greenwood has 976 mins, Ronaldo has 896 mins, Cavani has 273 mins, Rashford has 242 mins, Martial has 156 mins, VDB has 144 mins.
So in terms of game time, he has less than Bruno, Greenwood, Ronaldo, but more than Cavani, Rashford, Martial and VDB.
In comparison, Bruno has 1210 mins, Greenwood has 976 mins, Ronaldo has 896 mins, Cavani has 273 mins, Rashford has 242 mins, Martial has 156 mins, VDB has 144 mins.
So in terms of game time, he has less than Bruno, Greenwood, Ronaldo, but more than Cavani, Rashford, Martial and VDB.
There’s little point putting Rashford into that comparison considering his season started a two weeks ago.
actually no it does work. Rashford in two weeks has gotten about half the minutes Sancho has in two and a half months.
actually no it does work. Rashford in two weeks has gotten about half the minutes Sancho has in two and a half months.
The annoying thing is he clearly wasn't match fit/sharp with no pre season, so they give him 4-5 games to build his fitness and confidence.
Just as he started to look like he's kicking on, they drop him and never see him again, even as a sub appearence.
Now all that build up is gone? at least with Grealish City persisted with him until he found his feet.
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