We setup in a way where we expect him to play like Rashford, it makes no sense. He's not going to run with the ball as direct or from as deep as Rashford does, it's simply not his game. Sancho does bear some of the responsibility for his average performances but Ole and the system is a massive factor in why he looks lost out there at times.
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Playing out exactly as I predicted. It's going to be a long and painful experience for some coming to the acceptance that we've wasted £70 million on a player who is no good on the right and worse on the left than what we have already.
He's not going to shine under Ole, he's neither a poacher nor lightning fast. He's a creator, all our attacks seem improvised so there's no connection between passes and one-twos.
Naturally he's struggling with this, hopefully with a new manager we'll implement a cohesive system that'll benefit him and Ronaldo.
Naturally he's struggling with this, hopefully with a new manager we'll implement a cohesive system that'll benefit him and Ronaldo.
He's been downright disappointing so far. But I'll be honest, I'm not going to judge him too much because our manager and coaching team are shit.
It's not like he's struggling while others are thriving. Everyone seems to have dipped in form compared to last season. Can't be that all the players decided to drop form at the same time.
It's not like he's struggling while others are thriving. Everyone seems to have dipped in form compared to last season. Can't be that all the players decided to drop form at the same time.
Bit premature to call him a flop surely.
Remember when we gave players at least half a season to acclimatise to the PL?
Remember when we gave players at least half a season to acclimatise to the PL?
Unfortunately, in Ole's case, this ^
Sancho isn't a natural winger.
He operates more in the half-spaces.
If people were expecting an explosive winger that hugs the sideline, they will always be disappointed.
He's not. But he likes starting from out wide which keeps the width. He's a playmaker from wide. We don't need an explosive winger, but we do need to keep the width and have players make better decisions. Sancho is generally equally fine on either wing, but in our set up, he would be more beneficial if he was on the right as he could hold width wider there more naturally and leave more space in the middle.
I will stand by what I said a few weeks ago, don’t care I will be ridiculed for that. If you disregard his £70m+ price he’s basically a 21 year old player with close to zero PL experience who is struggling to perform under pressure at the highest level. If it carries on like that until January, with Rashford back, we should look to loan him to another PL club for the next few months so he can build back his confidence and get used to the league. If the best we can find is a team like Leeds/Palace then be it.
If he were an Academy player coming though that’s exactly what we would be doing. He’s 21.
If he were an Academy player coming though that’s exactly what we would be doing. He’s 21.
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With how we play it doesn't suit anyone but Rashford as he has pace to run in behind.
We dont control games enough to get the best out of technical players
We dont control games enough to get the best out of technical players
Disappointed by him so far. Ok it's early days but lets hope he won't turn out like another Theo Walcott.
The Ole inners always wanted to see how would he fare with a new CB, new RW, new RB, new CB again before judging him. I will judge Sancho(and Ronaldo) after I see them under a competent manager.
No doubt that Jadon never contemplated that going to OT would be a step backward for will be in the end a brilliant football career.
It didn't make sense and it still doesn't.
You're acting like the Bundesliga is an amateur league compared to the Premier League.
Obviously, the Premier League is better, but he has top level football experience.
Literally, it's a non-starter of an idea.
I stand by my opinion that I still think he'll come good but not under this management. I'm afraid under Ole we'll see the same performances from Sancho and he will struggle to develop.
Not under the current management.
Doesn't suit Ole-ball at all (pace, power and disjointed individual play). Will do better under the next manager. Having said much is also down to his confidence levels which are extremely low.
He doesn't do well under Southgate either, we need to have a new manager who could improve our overall build up, in order for him to improve. He can't do anything by himself at a disjointed team, or under a manager who is too defensive, or not very good at possession football.
Top player who had been developed by City and Dortmund, 2 of the best attacking teams in Europe with very exact/ingrained attacking systems.
No wonder he struggles under Ole and Southgate.
No wonder he struggles under Ole and Southgate.
Yeah it's insane. He was in Kicker's Bundesliga best XI 2 seasons in a row. Got his first Bundesliga player of the month exactly 3 YEARS ago this month.
You can see that he tries to pass and move but there is no movement ahead of him. He is going to be Donny II.
We are in the middle of October and a top-10 assist-maker from across Europe in the 20/21 season has not scored or assisted yet in this team. I wonder why. Reserving judgement until we get a half-decent manager and proper coaches.
We are in the middle of October and a top-10 assist-maker from across Europe in the 20/21 season has not scored or assisted yet in this team. I wonder why. Reserving judgement until we get a half-decent manager and proper coaches.
The new Pepe
Like someone said, he needs time and structure - the very 2 things that he'll wont get at present. I think he'll come good.
Pepe actually scores, assists and dribbles opponents. Don't try that one.
I didn't rare him that highly I the bundesliga but I'd wait until he gets to play with a striker like Greenwood who has some pace to make some run in behind the defences to reach the passes he routinely tries to make.
Other than that he loses possesion because the current players just stand there a bit.
He needs to play with players like Greenwood, Rashford, VDB and Bruno Fernandes further up the pitch than deeper or on the other side of the pitch to him.
Other than that he loses possesion because the current players just stand there a bit.
He needs to play with players like Greenwood, Rashford, VDB and Bruno Fernandes further up the pitch than deeper or on the other side of the pitch to him.
Doesn't look sharp to me, whether it's a lack of confidence or just simply he doesn't suit the players around him I just don't know.
I said Grealish was the signing we wanted in the summer and I stick by this but indo hope Sancho comes good even if under a new manager
I said Grealish was the signing we wanted in the summer and I stick by this but indo hope Sancho comes good even if under a new manager
How come Greenwood could come in at 17 and make and impact? Rashford at 18 under LVG terrible second season. They were able to shine despite the setup. Sancho has shown nothing.
If we hadn't signed Ronaldo then presumably this season would have been Cavani and Greenwood rotating in the centre, Rashford left, Sancho right and Amad and Elanga rotating with them. With Greenwood on the right in fine form and Rashford back strong from his surgery, Sancho is now a bench option.
That may all change under a new manager, of course.
That may all change under a new manager, of course.
I could be proven wrong because he is really talented but I'm quite certain when he starts playing on the right he would contribute very little and there will lots of sideways passes, specifically against low blocks
I think it's a bit of a cop out blaming his poor form on the manager. We've seen numerous players over the last decade shine under awful conditions. Whether it be Greenwood, Rashford, Cavani, Shaw, Martial; hell even Januzaj, Smalling and Lukaku went through periods where they've looked quality under equally poor regimes.
It's too early to write him off of course but it's concerning to see such slow, ponderous, uncreative and quite lazy performances coming from a £70m young signing. Certainly the work ethic element you'd assume coming into a new side would be apparent. You'd especially not expect him to be conspicuously slow/lazy in comparison with our other attackers.
He needs to be given regular game time but I agree with a poster above that if he's still far off the pace come January then a 6 month loan at a team like Brentford, Leeds, Brighton etc might do him some good.
Ole's lack of ability as a manager and our awful coaching has obviously not helped, but that's a mitigating factor rather than an excuse.
It's too early to write him off of course but it's concerning to see such slow, ponderous, uncreative and quite lazy performances coming from a £70m young signing. Certainly the work ethic element you'd assume coming into a new side would be apparent. You'd especially not expect him to be conspicuously slow/lazy in comparison with our other attackers.
He needs to be given regular game time but I agree with a poster above that if he's still far off the pace come January then a 6 month loan at a team like Brentford, Leeds, Brighton etc might do him some good.
Ole's lack of ability as a manager and our awful coaching has obviously not helped, but that's a mitigating factor rather than an excuse.
I like how you have chosen to disregard two seasons at Dortmund where he was regarded as one of the best players in the league. His situation is not at all similar to a 21 year old academy player who may not even have played senior football.
He's never getting in that team ahead of Greenwood on current form.
He's never getting in that team ahead of Rashford, who I don't rate much on the wing but can produce a moment of brilliance, has pace and makes good runs.
Normally I'd say he'd be a good sub for either of them, but usually our game collapses in the last 30' so I expect him to have a rough first half of the season.
But I rate him highly, the problem is not his technique or decision making, he's just not the right player for Ole.
Him and Donny will be important for the next manager.
He's never getting in that team ahead of Rashford, who I don't rate much on the wing but can produce a moment of brilliance, has pace and makes good runs.
Normally I'd say he'd be a good sub for either of them, but usually our game collapses in the last 30' so I expect him to have a rough first half of the season.
But I rate him highly, the problem is not his technique or decision making, he's just not the right player for Ole.
Him and Donny will be important for the next manager.
Different league, different system, different pressure & expectations. We already had two players who were good at Dortmund but quite bad here. He will need time.
There’s people in this thread who genuinely believe that a loan move to Brighton, Brentford, Leeds or Palace might be a good move for Sancho and United.
Moving and adapting to a new league is always tough, especially when you have a manager in charge, who brought you in to play on the right but plays you on the left. Maybe just wait until he's played more than 5/6 games in his correct position before calling him a dud?
The problem isn't our players its the incompetent manager and coaches!
The problem isn't our players its the incompetent manager and coaches!
I thought we bought him to play on the RW?
We always play players out of position.
Look, translating his attacking numbers was always unlikely, especially immediately, but his struggles on that side are paired with a guy who gives very little defensively either. The last game before the break he looked bright and lively but if he is not producing going forward you are not getting anything else out of him.
He is top talent and will prove that but not under Solskjaer. He is not typical counter attacking winger. He is more a wide playmaker. He would be great in Pep's system.
Ole doesn’t know what to do with him, even Southgate gets better performances out of him. No player will play their best football at United with Ole, not at the moment anyway.
The biggest problem is he doesn't seem to do anything.
Tries some fancy stuff with his feet and then passes it sideways.
Tries some fancy stuff with his feet and then passes it sideways.
James was better. Amad would almost certainly be doing better too.
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