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He'll be a great player for us, in time.

The thing is, he has come from the Bundesliga where there is more space and vastly inferior and less aggressive defending which has made him look better than he is for English football. Equally, at international level he has looked good because of inferior opposition.

He needs time to adjust and I think he will - but we shouldn't expect too much in his first season.
 
captaincantona said:
One of the benefits of buying a right winger was to provide a more equal threat on both sides.We relied a lot in Shaw and an unfit Rashford last season down the left. Carried less threat from the right. Excuses were made for Wan Bissaka saying he had no one permanent out right to build an understanding With. With Varane as a more secure option at right centre half, we could start seeing moreof Wan Bissaka going forward and combining with Sancho.

So far this season, Sancho being out left, Shaw has been very poor going forward and not really given Sancho any quality, consistent option. I believe a good understanding with both full backs playing higher up will be central to getting the best out of Sancho.

The risk is that as a team we are just not a great fit for less powerful, more intricate attackers.It was clear from his time at Dortmund that Sancho was a wide forward, comfortable on both flanks in a system which allowed him to cut inside and have options or have an overlapping full back more often than not to play combinations with. Like VDB and Mata and Kagawa and Mhikitaryn and Gomes...he needs movement around him to see the best of his game. None of these players flourished at Man Utd. While Greenwood has movement, control in tight spaces And the ability to interchange positionally, he is also dynamic and capable of driving at players- it is this aspect of Greenwood we see more often than not as being his central quality for Utd-along with his finishing.

I can’t help but feel like we shouldn’t be expecting him to replicate his types of performances/contributions in Dortmund in our team. But that’s not to say he won’t become effective for us in our style of play. I also fear he does not have the game changing ability of Bruno/Ronaldo/Greenwood/Rashford that will make him immediately recognisable as being good value for money. This one might be a slow burner.
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Can't say I disagree with any of that, good post. I do think he'll be up and running sooner rather than later though, I can see the talent, it's just going to take some time to adapt and gel with his team mates. He had a few nice interchanges with Martial the other night and I expect that to improve as the season goes on (with all players, doubt we'll be seeing Martial much).
 
Dans said:
He'll be a great player for us, in time.

The thing is, he has come from the Bundesliga where there is more space and vastly inferior and less aggressive defending which has made him look better than he is for English football. Equally, at international level he has looked good because of inferior opposition.

He needs time to adjust and I think he will - but we shouldn't expect too much in his first season.
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The Bundesliga is a bit of a joke defensively so I never expect him to replicate the numbers he got over there but he'll definitely be a valuable player for us.
 
Raven said:
We don't have players of his profile at all, he's a playmaking winger, both Rashford and Greenwood are goal scorers more than anything. Amad is in a similar mould but we're not likely to see him in the first team until at least next season, if not longer.
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I meant Pogba and Bruno - great passers. Obviously Rashford and Greenwood are different.

But it is a problem with our play - teams that sit deep against us usually restrict us because we have no one to stretch play.
 
marktan said:
I meant Pogba and Bruno - great passers. Obviously Rashford and Greenwood are different.

But it is a problem with our play - teams that sit deep against us usually restrict us because we have no one to stretch play.
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Pogba is a bit of a leap, but fair enough, Bruno is nothing like Sancho. So what do you think then? That we need a Valencia type who stays wide and dribbles? If so, I disagree, that's what full backs do now.
 
Raven said:
Pogba is a bit of a leap, but fair enough, Bruno is nothing like Sancho. So what do you think then? That we need a Valencia type who stays wide and dribbles? If so, I disagree, that's what full backs do now.
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Pogba's been our starter on the LW whilst Rashfords been out, in Sancho's preferred position. They're not the same player exactly but they want to do a lot of similar things - look for the pass, a couple of shimies instead of running at a defender. Bruno's not too dissimilar though he has far better movement.

I think we need a pure dribbling winger. Less Valencia and more Nani, Mane, Robben etc. Someone that can stand the opposition fullback and go inside or outside. It causes the opposition defence to get out of shape. City in particular do this all the time. You're right fullbacks do create width but AWB isn't particularly great at it and Shaw whilst providing a lot of quality doesn't actually get to the byline very often. As such everything ends up being very pedestrian and static.
 
Eh no, him not being a starter for United yet has nothing to do with the English NT, otherwise Greenwood would be playing in our U23.
 
It's a poor translation. Watzke mentioned Sancho not having a great standing in the national team as a reason for him wanting to move to the PL, not that he doesn't play for United because he doesn't start for England.
 
Yesterday the team was so narrow, it's a common occurrence with Pogba drifting in field all the time. There was just no width on the left, which left it easy for Villa to pen Utd in towards the right hand side of the pitch. This happened over and over again, because there was switch on.

I also see it so many times, where the player receiving the ball should be turning and moving it out wide quickly and instead they come back into the middle. It gets congested and the play breaks down. I don't understand why you would have players like Sancho and Greenwood who are very good in the wide areas and still end up trying to break teams down through the middle.

I think he needs a few games as a out and out winger on the left ahead of Pogba, where the team is set up to use the width provided by him and Greenwood to stretch teams. Instead of getting bogged down in the middle and hoping Shaw or AWB can provide some attacking width.
 
many of the 'over-rated', 'not-that-good' 'he looked good because it was bundes-liga' posts will look very reactionary in due time. If you've watched enough football you'd know Sancho is an insane talent. Always starts slow even in Germany.
 
Yesterday we were playing on the transition. Sancho would have thrived. Maybe if we didnt lose 2 subs to injuries...
 
Sancho, like Van de Beek, might just be the type who really only thrives in a highly organised side. Ole's United and Southgate's England are both pretty unstructured in attack, with both managers preferring to let the players figure it out on the pitch. That's not meant as a criticism of either manager - Ancelotti is much the same and has won everything in the game playing that way - but it will suit some players better than others.

Still very early days of course.
 
Sancho is a great player but he's been coached in highly structured teams, with set attacking moves and combination. I think he'll only come good at United when you get a proper coach in. Ole doesn't know what to do with Sancho and he doesn't know what to do with Van de Beek (who's not at Sancho's level, admittedly). The sensible thing (and cheapest) thing to do would be to get a proper coach in instead of throwing money at hiding Ole's deficiencies.
 
I think we should play Sancho and VDB more. It’s true they have been experiencing tough time adapting to our disjointed team with no clearly defined system, but our team also badly needs player who could do decent pass and contribute in build up play. Sancho and VDB IMO should be two of our key player in terms of making pass in midfield to improve our build up play.
 
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I haven't seen anything special from him so far, and we all thought a RW was the answer to our problems.
We should be looking at our midfield.
 
I said from day one, he’s been overhyped.
We paid all that money for a Daniel James clone!!
Should have saved the money and chucked in extra to buy Haaland.
Like someone said: They’re a collection of good footballers, but not a TEAM.
 
Thebaldingbob said:
I said from day one, he’s been overhyped.
We paid all that money for a Daniel James clone!!
Should have saved the money and chucked in extra to buy Haaland.
Like someone said: They’re a collection of good footballers, but not a TEAM.
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A bit knee jerk, no? He moved from a structured well oiled machine to this disorganized mess in a new league. At the very least, don't you roger he needs time to adapt? He's no world beater for sure, but Dan James? C'mon.
 
Thebaldingbob said:
I said from day one, he’s been overhyped.
We paid all that money for a Daniel James clone!!
Should have saved the money and chucked in extra to buy Haaland.
Like someone said: They’re a collection of good footballers, but not a TEAM.
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What makes you think Haaland won't have the same problems? Germany is piss easy for attackers.
 
chiz2kul said:
A bit knee jerk, no? He moved from a structured well oiled machine to this disorganized mess in a new league. At the very least, don't you roger he needs time to adapt? He's no world beater for sure, but Dan James? C'mon.
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Some were saying he was an Mbappe level talent. It's the same with Bellingham. Ridiculous level of hype surrounding players in thr Bundesliga.
 
Raven said:
What makes you think Haaland won't have the same problems? Germany is piss easy for attackers.
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His CL numbers are insane for a player his age.

I think he is the one young talent in Germany up to the hype.
 
Infra-red said:
Sancho, like Van de Beek, might just be the type who really only thrives in a highly organised side. Ole's United and Southgate's England are both pretty unstructured in attack, with both managers preferring to let the players figure it out on the pitch. That's not meant as a criticism of either manager - Ancelotti is much the same and has won everything in the game playing that way - but it will suit some players better than others.

Still very early days of course.
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I think you're overestimating Dortmund's attack. They scored plenty but I don't think they've been a well drilled side for some time, I watched plenty a lot of them over the past few years and while they did attack well at times, they were far from a well oiled machine.

There does tend to be less pack the bus style football over there, which naturally makes it easier for players such as Sancho, Haaland and Reus to have more space.
 
thegregster said:
Some were saying he was an Mbappe level talent. It's the same with Bellingham. Ridiculous level of hype surrounding players in thr Bundesliga.
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He was one of the highest rated players coming through the English academy system, went to a better league than the French league and put up incredible numbers from a very young age. He is an unbelievable talent and just because he's taking time to adapt to a new team, a new style of play and a new league he's now been overhyped. It's very possible that he wont be a great player, very few players are. But based on his career so far it is just as possible that he will be one of the best players in the world.

Why is this place so so so knee jerk about everything.
 
Surely he has to start vs Villareal?

Pogba in the middle. McFred isn't up to it, so just get as much quality on the pitch as we can. Sancho coming good could reignite the slump.
 
thegregster said:
Some were saying he was an Mbappe level talent. It's the same with Bellingham. Ridiculous level of hype surrounding players in thr Bundesliga.
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I still think he is. IMO he's the closest thing to Neymar there currently is. Though, as it stands, he might have made the wrong career move as many were predicting beforehand. IMO he'd be a world beater in a more methodically coached team. Unfortunately, I think Sancho and United are a bad fit right now. And on top of that, the pressure gets into his head, too.
 
Can't believe there is not more made of the fact we have a 75m player on the bench. I think this will be Ole's downfall and will be the last straw for the board when they finally decide a change is needed.
 
Frank Grimes said:
Can't believe there is not more made of the fact we have a 75m player on the bench. I think this will be Ole's downfall and will be the last straw for the board when they finally decide a change is needed.
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Because the 75m player is not performing like a 75m player.
 
I dont understand how some here discard Sancho so quickly. We are less than a few matches into the season.
 
Frank Grimes said:
Can't believe there is not more made of the fact we have a 75m player on the bench. I think this will be Ole's downfall and will be the last straw for the board when they finally decide a change is needed.
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The players starting ahead of him aren't exactly nobodies.
 
Solskjaer need to stop with this BS Pogba on the left and start to use his 75m signing. He is such a risk averse terrible manager.
 
Jeez!! Get a grip.
He will probably start the CL game. At least, wait for a few weeks before claiming the 75M guy is rotting on bench.
 
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