Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed

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TsuWave said:
You guys write fantiction with some much conviction. Bet you thought you were Tolkien when you were typing this post
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Fan fiction? He has a year left on his contract and doesn't want ro extend. We signed Bruno in January 2020 and Sancho now. Where is he going to play? In a double pivot behind 2 wingers who don't track back much? That's a recipe for disaster. He's steadily been replaced with our business and team building over the last few years. I wish him well, but I doubt he's going to stay this season, and if he does, it'll definitely be his last one as he would've extended by now.
 
Robaldo said:
Reckon he'll play a significant part of his games at left wing because:

1. Rashford is likely to require surgery and won't be available for some time.

2. He's better as a left winger than a right winger.
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2 is wrong. Most of his best football at Dortmund was on the right. When Hakimi left he struggled a bit more there so shifted flanks. I think the key point is that rather than a particular flank which doesnt seem to be an issue for him, what he actually needs is a technically gifted full back to get the best out of him. Hes a player who makes a lot of touches and passes, unlike someone like Rashford who wants the ball in behind to chase. Thats probably why we're supposedly after Trippier now. AWB wont be a good enough foil for Sancho technically imo.
 
Tony Babangida said:
Is he good? Why isn't he getting a game for England?
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He got more league goals and assists than any other player in the big 5 leagues as a teenager apart from Mbappe in probably the past 30 years+. Mbappe only has 1 more, and Sancho likely could've matched that or exceeded had covid not stopped him last season before he turned 20.

So uhhh you decide. He's not getting a game for England, as like Rashford and Grealish, they are all really weak defensively and foden/sterling/Saka are all quite decent with their pressing and tracking back. And less minutes as a sub because he's in the Bundesliga and Southgate doesn't rate it clearly.
 
I could maybe understand him not starting ahead of Sterling/Grealish but it baffles me a little that Rashford is ahead of him in the pecking order considering the latter's poor end of season form and perpetual issue with injuries. Makes me believe this theory of Southgate having his favourites and/or preferring premier league players.
 
Withnail said:
I wouldn't be so sure he is
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Knowing Lord Waistcoat, I wouldn't be surprised if you were right :lol:

After all he had to be badgered and peppered with questions from the press before finally calling him up last season
 
I am surprised that no one is worried about poor Dan James and the #21 shirt….. Edi wears it for Uruguay… forget Tony…. Poor Dan.
 
Compton22 said:


I can hear the bitter sarcasm :lol:
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2 summers in and it's finally done. We've just signed one of the best talents on the planet, and he's English and can play on the RW too. Seems we've got a great deal too and not overpaying last summer has worked out well for us. 70/75 million represents good value for a player as gifted as him.

Well done, us!
 
amolbhatia50k said:
2 summers in and it's finally done. We've just signed one of the best talents on the planet, and he's English and can play on the RW too. Seems we've got a great deal too and not overpaying last summer has worked out well for us. 70/75 million represents good value for a player as gifted as him.

Well done, us!
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Yes. If we saved 20 to 30 mil by waiting a year it's good business by us. We can think of it instead of one Sancho the year before, we got a Sancho plus a super promising Diallo.
 
Very good price for a top talent that could play in a position we desperately need. It's cheap in my opinion. We really are lucky this time around. It's hard to imagine Dortmund reducing the price had there been more clubs fighting for his signature. Normally RM and Barca would be linked to top talents like him but they've got their own problems now. City didn't want him and Chelsea had spent a lot last transfer window. He is also English so a move back to England is a no brainer for him when normally the first question to any player we're interested in is "can he adapt?". The stars were aligned. Unreal stuffs.
 
crossy1686 said:
The incidents you mentioned are completely normal in football and they only happened once. Martial has been average to shit for the majority of his time at United. The season Zlatan signed was the season where Martial decided he was a 9 and not a left winger and that signing put his nose completely out of joint, he went as far as to change all his social media pictures off the back of Zlatan getting the number 9.
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The bastard :lol:
 
I’ve been a bit unsure over Sancho - but I’m happy with the price.

Seems like we won’t be 120+ million for Ousamanne dembele like Barcelona got done.
 
It’s a great price, but I think I’d rather have paid more and got him last summer. Maybe that was impossible with covid, but still, I don’t think the money we saved is worth what we lost out on.
 
Forget the past. Here we are now and we've brought in an outstanding footballer who finally, after all these years, addresses a gaping hole in the attack.
 
Raoul said:
True. It just feels like we need to strengthen at striker given Cavani is basically a one and done at this point, and no one else is remotely good enough to be our main striker. Therefore I was hoping for someone like Haaland or Kane. Maybe next summer.
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What's your opinion about Greenwood becoming our mainstriker? This upcoming season transitioning to it and becoming the main man the season thereafter when Cavani leaves?
 
largelyworried said:
It’s a great price, but I think I’d rather have paid more and got him last summer. Maybe that was impossible with covid, but still, I don’t think the money we saved is worth what we lost out on.
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This is one of the most common mistakes here analysing every transfer isolated. If we got shafted on this transfer it would have consequences for every transfer in the future. Now it’s sets an example the opposite way. This have been handled excellent by the club.
 
bosnian_red said:
Pogba rarely plays in midfield, and when he does, we are horribly unbalanced. We've replaced him with Bruno as an attacking midfielder and then his added creativity and build up that he provided out wide has now been replaced by Sancho. So yeah...in the 4231 that Ole plays, with Rashford/Greenwood and Sancho wide, Bruno as the 10, Pogba just doesn't work in midfield.
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He has played mostly in mid :confused: We played him to the left when Rashford was knackered and we tried something different for a little bit.
 
Lemansky said:
This is one of the most common mistakes here analysing every transfer isolated. If we got shafted on this transfer it would have consequences for every transfer in the future. Now it’s sets an example the opposite way. This have been handled excellent by the club.
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Exactly. It’s far far more than just the difference in fee wanted last year and what we’ve negotiated this year.

it’s not sustainable just to pay what clubs what, when it’s completely unrealistic. €120m in the middle of a pandemic, with no end in sight would have been insane - and furthermore just shown every seller that we don’t even bother to negotiate and will pay whatever inflated fee clubs demand.

this is an important step in redefining United as something other than naive transfer muppets.

there are lines that need to be drawn, previously that threat had no substance. Now we have shown that we are prepared to walk away and bide out time.
 
Lemansky said:
This is one of the most common mistakes here analysing every transfer isolated. If we got shafted on this transfer it would have consequences for every transfer in the future. Now it’s sets an example the opposite way. This have been handled excellent by the club.
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Agreed! No wonder all the players we're linked to have hyper inflated prices when we splash money about without thinking. The fact that we missed out on our top target last summer and still finished comfortably second shows an advantage on our part, in that we don't look absolutely desperate.
 
Lemansky said:
This is one of the most common mistakes here analysing every transfer isolated. If we got shafted on this transfer it would have consequences for every transfer in the future. Now it’s sets an example the opposite way. This have been handled excellent by the club.
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If you apply that logic to every summer, it'll take us 4 to 5 years to build a team we could have built in 2 to 3 years. I agree that the price is good in isolation, but we can't look it that way, we have to consider the broader context of our transfer strategy. We're behind City by a fair way. Past mistakes in the transfer market mean that buying quality at the same rate as City will do no more than maintain the gap behind them. The simple fact is we not only need to improve the squad, we need to do so at a faster rate than our rivals. That's bound to mean a premium on price, but that's the choice we face.
 
largelyworried said:
If you apply that logic to every summer, it'll take us 4 to 5 years to build a team we could have built in 2 to 3 years. I agree that the price is good in isolation, but we can't look it that way, we have to consider the broader context of our transfer strategy. We're behind City by a fair way. Past mistakes in the transfer market mean that buying quality at the same rate as City will do no more than maintain the gap behind them. The simple fact is we not only need to improve the squad, we need to do so at a faster rate than our rivals. That's bound to mean a premium on price, but that's the choice we face.
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Man Utd have a budget to work too. If we show that we will just pay what a club wants, we very quickly run out of money.

it doesn’t mean we wait a year for every transfer, it means we now have a line, and are prepared to wait if needed. We have shown we won’t be a pushover like we have been.

makes it a credible negotiation threat for all future player purchases.
 
largelyworried said:
It’s a great price, but I think I’d rather have paid more and got him last summer. Maybe that was impossible with covid, but still, I don’t think the money we saved is worth what we lost out on.
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All these ifs and buts about the price are based on the assumptioned that it was at all possible for us to buy him last year. While the truth is probably that we could not.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
Man Utd have a budget to work too. If we show that we will just pay what a club wants, we very quickly run out of money.

it doesn’t mean we wait a year for every transfer, it means we now have a line, and are prepared to wait if needed. We have shown we won’t be a pushover like we have been.

makes it a credible negotiation threat for all future player purchases.
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Agreed that's the upside. The downside is City stay ahead of us for another season. Neither choice is ideal.
 
Grande said:
All these ifs and buts about the price are based on the assumptioned that it was at all possible for us to buy him last year. While the truth is probably that we could not.
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Hard to say for sure because payment structures & salaries are a factor, not to mention the risk factor of future income around covid. But at the end of the day the difference in price between what we paid this summer and last summer is less than what we paid for VDB.
 
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