I wish it was the 1990s, we had better players, better manager & were winning things & Chelsea & City without their oil money were bang average & not forgetting the treble to end the 90s as well.
Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed
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I wish it was the 1990s, we had better players, better manager & were winning things & Chelsea & City without their oil money were bang average & not forgetting the treble to end the 90s as well.
Starting to think this second bid they're considering is shock horror a load of shite, this is gonna drag and drag or we've already walked away like we did a year ago
Today is a day today.
It was exactly that
a despicable me meme about how we only like to make rumours and PR briefs, but not the actual bid.Based on your description, I can imagine what it'd look like. Yeah, I guess it'd be okay, but I've seen better from the Caf itself.It was exactly that
Fairies are as dumb as dogs tbh.
Must be one of the worst transfers pursuits in history, we’re getting the exact same news we were getting over a year ago. Absolute borefest.
Imagine the scene if he tweets "I'm joining the Champions League winner".
SKY will report a ’New improved bid’ every fecking day until the window closes. At least we don’t have to suffer that shouty Jim what’s his name with the fog horn voice on deadline day as he’s left SKY.
Since 2018/19
Impressive considering that Wazza started playing regular senior football even earlier at 16
"I'm joining the Europa League runner-up"
Yup, they've dug up the same tweets from last year, re posted it. It is actually becoming boring and frustrating but its how we conduct transfers. Done that with AWB, Maguire, Bruno. We just have no idea how to operate in a transfer window efficiently.
Look at the way Leicester operate, get their business done nice and early, good scouting system and getting players at good prices.
United don't really have a scouting system, just bodies for the sake of it because the players we tend to go for are all well known anyway.
Teams playing 4-4-2. Proper wingers. Defenders who could defend and head it as their key roles.
Two strikers.
Midfielders who did a bit of everything before this holding mid nonsense started.
Full backs who could defend as their first job.
Is no one worried we are signing a RW who is best as a LW?
Since 2018/19
Impressive considering that Wazza started playing regular senior football even earlier at 16
Who makes these stats up
Next it'll be: 'Sancho leads list of players with most goals scored before 21st Birthday with a Lionel Richie moustache...'
Yeah, they've done amazing with their transfers so far this window...
"Someone in PE outfit knocked on me hotel door and almost made me wet me pants because I thought I was robbed. Turned out he brought me a box of Norwegian chocolates which had a devil logo on it. At that point the little kid inside of me was screaming 'The United of Manchester red' and I was finally coming home to be playing with me favourite mate Daniel James"."I'm joining the Europa League runner-up"
Yeah, they've done amazing with their transfers so far this window...
They have done well over the last few years and this season they are on the verge of signing Soumare and Daka.
As we are on the verge of signing Sancho. Neither has happened so far.
United are trying reverse psychology with their fans.
"Now we don't want him anymore"
"OK - shame. Cause we we're just going to improve our bid now".
"Now we don't want him anymore"
"OK - shame. Cause we we're just going to improve our bid now".
They've taken almost 2 months now to try and seal the Soumaré deal despite it being seemingly done, whilst with Daka, I wouldn't be surprised if the transfer takes almost as long.
Similarly, we've basically had the Tom Heaton signing sealed for a while, but of course, he's not a player who the fans are interested in, so his transfer tends to be dismissed. Then there's the Konaté transfer, which took ~4-5 months to get done despite Liverpool being basically the only club in for him.
Last year they signed Wesley Fofana and Timothy Castagne (+ Cengiz Under on a loan) for €58m.
Season before they signed Youri Tielemans, Ayoze Perez, Dennis Praet, James Justin and Callum Hulme for €104m.
With the except of maybe Tielemans it's hardly anything to say they have done exceptionally well with.
I'll be nice and go 3 years back, yeah James Maddison looks like a good find now, and Caglar Söyüncü puts in a shift without impressing too much. But of the other 5 in the window 2 are out of the club and the others are rather underwhelming.
We don't use scouts to find unknown gems that will go into our first team, it doesn't work like that. But we may have found some for our youth teams over these past years.
We use our scouts to get reports on those established known players to see if we think they will work together with what we already have at the club.
As others have pointed out - Leicester have signed the grand total of zero players so far this window.
They have been after Soumare for ages now yet still it's not done.
Yes they've taken 2 months to do a deal, we take 6-12 months to do deals.
Maguire was 12 months plus. Bruno was 6 months plus, Sancho's been 12 months plus.
Also, are you trying to say we should credit our recruitment for Heaton? a 3rd choice GK?
Also, Konate took 4-5 months? they negotiated the deal before the window and signed him before the window opened.
We are the only team for Sancho though right?
Fofana and Castane had very good season last season if you ask Leicester fans.
James Justin and Tielemans again very good season, Tielemans is now one of the best CM in the PL.
Maddison, Evans, Soyuncu again are brilliant buys for very good prices so I am not sure how you are questioning their recruitment, its one of the best in the PL.
Not only that, when they come to sell their players, they get the most value out of them
Name me one unknown gen that is found for our youth team that has made the step up to the first team?
The scouts don't need to get unknown youngsters, they need to find players that work well in our team.
So are you saying our scouts thought that Donny would work well in this team?
Compare that to Liverpool scouts, who bought Salah, Mane, Fabinho, Jota.
Leicester spend big money every summer and never get top 4. Lets stop with the over the top recruitment praise
Hasn’t he played mostly on the right wing for Dortmund though? I reckon he can produce on the right wing better then anyone else we have. Is sancho both footed aswell?
I honestly can't comprehend why people support a club that appears to cause them so much consternation. Go support someone else and be happier, no one is going to care.
Was literally just writing this out. It's obviously good for creating revenue from sales, but they've never come close to matching their league win since with any of their signings.
I'm not going to derail this thread too far, so I'll respond with this: my problem is that we ignore the complete context of other transfers just because we don't pay as much attention to them. We then ignore the contexts of some of our own transfers just because we don't like the players.
For example, Konaté had a release clause, yet Liverpool took a long time to complete a transfer with a straightforward release clause. No negotiations were done with Leipzig to complete that transfer. Another example: Donny van de Beek took less than 2-3 weeks to complete, but no one wants to credit United for that.
Sancho is taking a while if we combine this summer with the last one. That does not mean that every United transfer takes a very long time. Big-money transfers involving clubs with massive demands will always take a while, but we'd rather attack United for it whilst ignoring the troubles that other teams go through with their transfers.
Crediting other clubs' transfer activities whilst ignoring the troubles that they go through is disingenuous. Acknowledge other clubs' troubles whilst acknowledging those of United.
Would you have paid £108m up front for one player during a pandemic?(Sancho)
Would you have paid £75m for Maguire after just one good season(one season in total actually) at Leicester?
Case could be argued we took long with Bruno but in the end we got him for a very good deal of an initial £47m
Konate had a release clause of just £35m
Soumare had a year left on his deal at Lille and available for a very cheap fee
Daka was also available for a cheap fee
Have a bit of context and digest that Utd are dealing with much harder transfers than the afformated ones you mentioned before posting a generic comment with the intention of bashing your own club for no reason
People keep quoting Leicester as masters of transfers. Just think of the fallout if all United's transfers were unknown players. Think if we had signed Albrighton.
Yes, some of their signings have turned out well, for them. Would you be satisfied with good, cheap signings and 5th place?
Yes, some of their signings have turned out well, for them. Would you be satisfied with good, cheap signings and 5th place?
Its a RW who has performed brilliantly on either wing, which is perfect as we can play him on the right to pair with Rashford or on the left to pair with Greenwood.
He's played an even amount of time overall through the past 3 years, he's not 2 footed but not Antonio Valencia level of avoiding his left, but is a creator rather than a shooter so it's not like it makes a huge difference having him cut in to take shots, as he'll tend to look for a pass anyway.
I wouldn't have, I don't have that kind of money.
Its not like the club didn't know he would cost £108m? why pursue something if you cannot afford it?
I am not going to a Lamorghini dealership to negotiate a price if I cannot afford the car?
So instead we ended up paying £80m, makes alot of sense that? If you look at City, they didn't want to pay £80m for him so they didn't pretend they are in or him all summer, agree personal terms, they just moved on and signed £60m Dias the summer after.
That is the context.
In fairness Leicester are signing young players who are not on international duty typically so that makes things easier. I do expect the Sancho deal to get over the line fairly quickly after the last 16 and the inevitable England exit. We might have to wait til after the final for Varane though.
It's like they're disgruntled husbands that only beat their wife because they love them.
Cometh the day, cometh the Sancho.
This will be done once England crash out
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