Jack Grealish / signs new 5 year contract

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I dont get some people on here. Pogba and has been out injured for ever. Rashford will be out for nearly half the season. Grealish can play in 2 positions in both Pogbas and Rashfords. We need more quality in the squad that much is for sure.

Even if Pogba stays, both himself, Grealish and Bruno will get loads of time in the matchday squads as midfielders. And Grealish playing left wing/wide forward with Rashford/Martial playing the #9 is also an option. Our bench options have been shocking so having the luxury of resting our best players here and there and being able to bring quality off the bench is why getting Grealish makes so much sense.
 
Isotope said:
That's not Ole's style, playing like Pep with two playmakers as CM. Unless he has major change in football philosophy.
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Bruno isn't just a playmaker. Nor is Grealish to be fair.
 
Okey said:
Erm...How's about JLingz and Perreira for Grealish? That should compensate Villa adequately. Or will we still need to pay any money in addition?
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They'd rather sell him for 65mil than 70mil + those 2 so there's that
 
City has KDB, Silvas,Gundagon, Rodri,Fernandinho , Foden for 3 positions and we are debating here if this guy would get playing time for us. Laughable!
 
bond19821982 said:
City has KDB, Silvas,Gundagon, Rodri,Fernandinho , Foden for 3 positions and we are debating here if this guy would get playing time for us. Laughable!
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Mad isn't it. The expectations on here are so low, we are so seriously lacking in quality depth, yet people worry about upsetting our current players, half of which shouldn't even be here.
 
I understand people saying we need Grealish as we need more quality players in the squad. He will strengthen the squad for sure and will play a lot of games even if he is not a guaranteed first 11 player.

Here's the issue though. He will cost 50m+ for sure. And we have other areas in the squad NEEDING first team players. Like right wing(and Sancho probably costing over 100M+) and Centre midfield(if Pogba leaves we just have Matic, McTominay and Fred). So I get why people are opposed to spending that much money over a cover when we have more pressing issues. It seems like just getting the more exciting names rather than making signings that are more NEEDED.

However if Pogba leaves, Bruno would be our only creative player. So we do need more creative players(since we are probably shipping out Mata, Pereira and Lingard).

So it would be more like :

CM : Scott, Fred, Matic, new midfielder
Attacking Mids : Sancho, Rashford, Bruno, Grealish, James
CF : Martial, backup striker(Ighalo?), Greenwood

which doesnt seem too crowded at all and seems like a good squad. However we would probably have to spend over 200M+ to get these 4 new players.
 
Okey said:
Erm...How's about JLingz and Perreira for Grealish? That should compensate Villa adequately. Or will we still need to pay any money in addition?
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There's no way Villa would take those players with their current wages. Just with a quick google search Villa's highest paid player is heaton with 42K per week, Grealish is on 35K per week. Pereira is on 30K and Lingard on 75K.
 
Highfather_24 said:
------Matic/Scott
Bruno------------Grealish

This seems like a balanced midfield does it not?
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It is. I’d still like to see one left sided midfielder in there to complement the right sided ones.
When you see KDB and a peak Silva with Fernandinho, you see the perfect balance
 
For those whining about Fernandes haaaaging to play number 10, the people who have watched him most will inform and educate yourselfs that he plays mostly as a number 8.

I also think people are pidgeon holing players a little too much, your telling me a midfield three containing Grealish and Fernandes wouldnt have the brains to play with flexibility?

As somebodys just mentioned both are very very hardworking as well as attacking midfielders, think Bernardo and David Silva with a good mobile holding player behind and youl start to understand how it can work
 
Judas said:
Mad isn't it. The expectations on here are so low, we are so seriously lacking in quality depth, yet people worry about upsetting our current players, half of which shouldn't even be here.
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We don't have a bottom less pit so we have to be somewhat stratigic with our signings. We have to sign players who's roles amalgamate perfectly so our team can at least play some well functioning football.

We can't be buying Grealish while our first 11 is riddled with holes. We still aren't sure about Shaw and hi fitness in the long run. Are people really convinced by Fred? if so we still need another starting mid. Lindelof is clearly not the answer. Pogba is leaving and thankfully we already have bought hi replacement.
 
RooneyLegend said:
We don't have a bottom less pit so we have to be somewhat stratigic with our signings. We have to sign players who's roles amalgamate perfectly so our team can at least play some well functioning football.

We can't be buying Grealish while our first 11 is riddled with holes. We still aren't sure about Shaw and hi fitness in the long run. Are people really convinced by Fred? if so we still need another starting mid. Lindelof is clearly not the answer. Pogba is leaving and thankfully we already have bought hi replacement.
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Considering we have the same number of clean sheets as liverpool this season in all competitions and we lack creativity just about every game (and a bruno injury or rest away from lingard or pereira) i'd say a creative player is far more of a prioritythan a lb or dcm.
 
Rocknrolla69er said:
For those whining about Fernandes haaaaging to play number 10, the people who have watched him most will inform and educate yourselfs that he plays mostly as a number 8.

I also think people are pidgeon holing players a little too much, your telling me a midfield three containing Grealish and Fernandes wouldnt have the brains to play with flexibility?

As somebodys just mentioned both are very very hardworking as well as attacking midfielders, think Bernardo and David Silva with a good mobile holding player behind and youl start to understand how it can work
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Unless you know a coach that can have us playing the complete system that City play with that's a moot point. Clearly Fernandes is perfect as a midfield playmaker with a couple of blokes backing him up.

We need to sort out who those two will be(McT isn't good enough, and we still can't be completely sure with Fred) and complete our attack with another attacker who'll add some much needed creativity from the right hand side.
 
How anyone can watch our pitiful attack and think "yes LB should be high on the list of transfer targets!" is crazy to me. Our defence isn't great either, but we've got enough CBs to not make another massive CB signing again this summer.
 
RooneyLegend said:
We don't have a bottom less pit so we have to be somewhat stratigic with our signings. We have to sign players who's roles amalgamate perfectly so our team can at least play some well functioning football.

We can't be buying Grealish while our first 11 is riddled with holes. We still aren't sure about Shaw and hi fitness in the long run. Are people really convinced by Fred? if so we still need another starting mid. Lindelof is clearly not the answer. Pogba is leaving and thankfully we already have bought hi replacement.
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If we have learned anything from this season is we need cover. What happens if Bruno gets injured? We are basically back to Jesse, Andreas and Mata playing that number 10 role and this cannot happen ever ever again. These three need to be shipped on. The Grealish signing will replace the three of these and he is also a quality player who can start week in, week out so Grealish is an absolute must.

Our defense isn't actually too bad and need too concentrate on other area's of the team. With Pogba leaving yea we need another midfielder and a right winger is also needed this Summer.

Shaw is playing well the last few games and is still only 24, if he can get the confidence back before the leg break he could become World class. Bailey hopefully will push on now after the injury and could be like a new signing.
 
RooneyLegend said:
We don't have a bottom less pit so we have to be somewhat stratigic with our signings. We have to sign players who's roles amalgamate perfectly so our team can at least play some well functioning football.

We can't be buying Grealish while our first 11 is riddled with holes. We still aren't sure about Shaw and hi fitness in the long run. Are people really convinced by Fred? if so we still need another starting mid. Lindelof is clearly not the answer. Pogba is leaving and thankfully we already have bought hi replacement.
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A "first 11" isn't a set thing. A side like City don't have a first 11, they have a first 14-ish of whom eleven will play on a given day. And they have players on the bench who are better in their given position than some starters in other positions are in theirs, because the way the play requires greater quality in some positions than others.

The fact that Grealish might not be in the starting 11 every single week doesn't mean much when you're desperately depending on more than those 11 players anyway. Over the course of the season having an additional attacker like Grealish could very easily end up making more of a difference then, say, upgrading Shaw for the supposed first 11.
 
nokillingmoths said:
Considering we have the same number of clean sheets as liverpool this season in all competitions and we lack creativity just about every game (and a bruno injury or rest away from lingard or pereira) i'd say a creative player is far more of a prioritythan a lb or dcm.
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We've conceded 29 goals in 27 games, nothing special about that record. Thanks right sided creative attacker should be the priority and Grealish is not that.
 
sullydnl said:
A "first 11" isn't a set thing. A side like City don't have a first 11, they have a first 14-ish of whom eleven will play on a given day. And they have players on the bench who are better in their given position than some starters in other positions are in theirs, because the way the play requires greater quality in some positions than others.

The fact that Grealish might not be in the starting 11 every single week doesn't mean much when you're desperately depending on more than those 11 players anyway. Over the course of the season having an additional attacker like Grealish could very easily end up making more of a difference then, say, upgrading Shaw for the supposed first 11.
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It's a set thing when the team is working with a budget. You won't see Pool paying big money for attackers cause what they have gets the job done. We don't even have that yet some want to see us buy expensive squad players.
 
nokillingmoths said:
If we can't get sancho then grealish is so obvious for the role mata has tonight.
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Funny enough, I might actually prefer taking Grealish in that Mata role. Much much cheaper and provides an extra source of creativity. Use the rest of the money to fill out other positions.
 
Judas said:
Mad isn't it. The expectations on here are so low, we are so seriously lacking in quality depth, yet people worry about upsetting our current players, half of which shouldn't even be here.
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I think the debate is if we can sign 100m player this year if he is the right one esp considering he mostly plays left wing
 
To me, if we fill these positions with better quality we could have a team that even competes for champions league trophy

--------------------------De Gea---------------------------

-AWB-----new signing----Maguire-----new lb

-----------------Fred------------new signing --------

new signing--------Bruno--------Rashford--

------------------------new signing ---------------------

Bench - Romero, Williams, Greenwood, Martial, McTominay, Baily, New AM

Even with the need of 6 signings to compete at European stage, I still can't fit in Grealish anywhere
 
Tarrou said:
What position would you play him with everyone fit?
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Same place as mata yesterday.

Again, football is fluid these day and teams usually don't start with one formation and end up with same or even continue playing with same. That's where versatile players are important. Bruno can play 10 or 8. Grealish I believe can also play both as well as on left. Talented players link up with each other, swap positions intelligently during the game with great tactical awareness, pull defenders with them so that other AM can create. They don't step on each other's toe... Something that I think few here are imagining.
 
Judas said:
Mad isn't it. The expectations on here are so low, we are so seriously lacking in quality depth, yet people worry about upsetting our current players, half of which shouldn't even be here.
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I remember when the Haaland debate raged on here, there were plenty of people who were against signing him because he might steal time from Rashford/Martial/Greeenwood and hinder their development
 
Tony247 said:
Same place as mata yesterday.

Again, football is fluid these day and teams usually don't start with one formation and end up with same or even continue playing with same. That's where versatile players are important. Bruno can play 10 or 8. Grealish I believe can also play both as well as on left. Talented players link up with each other, swap positions intelligently during the game with great tactical awareness, pull defenders with them so that other AM can create. They don't step on each other's toe... Something that I think few here are imagining.
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Fair enough.

No matter how fluid football is these days though, he isn't a right winger. If the cost is £60m+, I'd rather utilise that budget for a specialist right winger.

In an ideal world we'd get a right winger as well as Grealish though.
 
Tony247 said:
Same place as mata yesterday.

Again, football is fluid these day and teams usually don't start with one formation and end up with same or even continue playing with same. That's where versatile players are important. Bruno can play 10 or 8. Grealish I believe can also play both as well as on left. Talented players link up with each other, swap positions intelligently during the game with great tactical awareness, pull defenders with them so that other AM can create. They don't step on each other's toe... Something that I think few here are imagining.
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You mean like how we struggled to get the best out of Di Maria, Pogba and Martial because we thought they could perform well in multiple positions?
 
Wouldn't you just switch Grealish and Sancho for Mata and James (last night). Not sure why the big issue to fit them in. It's pretty simple. Then you have Rashford and Martial who can both play number 9.
 
Tarrou said:
Fair enough.

No matter how fluid football is these days though, he isn't a right winger. If the cost is £60m+, I'd rather utilise that budget for a specialist right winger.

In an ideal world we'd get a right winger as well as Grealish though.
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That I agree. RW should be our priority and if budget allows go for another player.

Added later: however, if pogba leaves then we have to get another AM. Can't go into a full season relying solely on Bruno, hoping he and his form will last over 60 matches.
 
TheReligion said:
Wouldn't you just switch Grealish and Sancho for Mata and James (last night). Not sure why the big issue to fit them in. It's pretty simple. Then you have Rashford and Martial who can both play number 9.
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Rashford has been borderline world class on the left recently.

you'd move him back to 9 to accommodate Grealish?
 
Tarrou said:
Rashford has been borderline world class on the left recently.

you'd move him back to 9 to accommodate Grealish?
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He's been just as good as a 9. Grealish is a very classy player. Believe me, if the chance to sign such a player arises you take it. Look at how many games Dan James has got this season and you tell me you couldn't fit him in?!
 
TheReligion said:
He's been just as good as a 9. Grealish is a very classy player. Believe me, if the chance to sign such a player arises you take it. Look at how many games Dan James has got this season and you tell me you couldn't fit him in?!
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No chance!

Yeah of course I'd fit him in. For £70m (or thereabouts) though I'd rather spend the money on a right winger.
 
TheReligion said:
That doesn't address the latter point about Dan James
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I agree it would be lovely to have him in the squad, no doubt about it.

As it stands though we have one glaring weakness in our squad, that being a specialist right winger. Therefore, if we're going to spend big on an attacker I think we should focus on that.

If we could afford to throw around £100m for a right winger, on top of £70m for Grealish I'd be all for it. We surely need to plan our spending a bit more carefully than that though, given the other deficiencies in the squad (we also need a DM, a back-up striker, and probably another right-back).
 
TheReligion said:
He's been just as good as a 9. Grealish is a very classy player. Believe me, if the chance to sign such a player arises you take it. Look at how many games Dan James has got this season and you tell me you couldn't fit him in?!
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To add to your point, people think of best 11 players of all time and argue. In reality there are different best 11 for different times. And to bring that tactical versatility manager needs options, not backups, quality options within the squad.

You play counter with superior adventurous team, you flood with midfield when other team good at pressing high, employ max creativity when teams sit deep and so on and on.

Someone says bench or shift Rashford? Rashford is not best in all the situations. There are certain teams suits him well and there are difficult defenses where he is not that effective. And that's okay, because in the squad you need not be best all the time.
 
Tarrou said:
If we could afford to throw around £100m for a right winger, on top of £70m for Grealish I'd be all for it. We surely need to plan our spending a bit more carefully than that though, given the other deficiencies in the squad (we also need a DM, a back-up striker, and probably another right-back).
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You're probably the only person in the world who thinks so. Shaw/Williams is better depth than AWB, Dalot, Laird, TFM?

Then we have Tuanzebe, Bailly and Lindelöf who can also deputise at RB! :eek:
 
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