Not really interested in us buying him if it means him being a squad player or shoe horned on the right wing or put in a deep midfield position but I would raise the question, would he be a better option than rashford on the left wing, as I'm very 50/50 on rashford being a good enough as a starting 11 player for us longterm if we want to truly compete for major titles?
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Reckon he would play in Bruno's position in games where we are likely to get pressed,otherwise he will be rotated with Rashford on that LW
Ill be pretty gutted if we sign him and not Sancho.
Very true but still going to carry on naively believing we can get both until the end of the window. Hopefully a decent priced pacy CB as well
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Would be a cracking signing imo. Can play in any of the 4 forward positions and if there’s one thing the Sevilla game showed its that we’re desperately short of options.
All it takes is an injury or loss of form (Rashy has seen both this season) and we’re screwed.
All it takes is an injury or loss of form (Rashy has seen both this season) and we’re screwed.
Very true but looks like he have moved on to Dan James's welsh team mate according to reports
I’m not going to stick my neck out here or am I?
Sancho plays with a dream midfield / forwards who are in sync and a solid defence that puts him in the right positions.
Grealish. Who does he have ? He is a one man band. Yes they are different players but let’s not compare the two as footballers until you can compare their teammates
given the right surroundings and support Grealish can be a proper superstar. He kept villa up - possibly one man team. His personality as well as ability is obvious. Plus he is premier league proven. I would love us to get both. But let’s not feel hard done by if we don’t get sancho and get Grealish. He is a winner and has the panache to have impact at united
you can’t compare the two
get grealish for now please
Sancho plays with a dream midfield / forwards who are in sync and a solid defence that puts him in the right positions.
Grealish. Who does he have ? He is a one man band. Yes they are different players but let’s not compare the two as footballers until you can compare their teammates
given the right surroundings and support Grealish can be a proper superstar. He kept villa up - possibly one man team. His personality as well as ability is obvious. Plus he is premier league proven. I would love us to get both. But let’s not feel hard done by if we don’t get sancho and get Grealish. He is a winner and has the panache to have impact at united
you can’t compare the two
get grealish for now please
Yeah we need to at least get Jack if we can't get Jadon this summer. He definitely has that winners mentality and think he needs better players around him and will prove many of the doubters wrong given the opportunity
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This wouldn’t happen even in FM, to be honest. Even the AI of the game would think this is total bullshite
We have to make a choose at some point - either give up Sancho this summer, and focus on getting better deal for Grealish - maybe 60-70m?
Or we can keep dragging on Sancho deal until last day of transfer window, until finally admitted defeat and move on to Grealish instead, for last min panicked buy for around 80m, matching Villa asking price.
Or we can keep dragging on Sancho deal until last day of transfer window, until finally admitted defeat and move on to Grealish instead, for last min panicked buy for around 80m, matching Villa asking price.
So you still believe we would spend 200m+ this summer, in this market?
Is 70 million really a good deal for Grealish? He's good but that's an enormous fee especially given all the hooplah over the impact of Covid-19. I'd probably rather pay double i.e a Dembele/Coutinho fee for Sancho over 70 million for Grealish. That's how much better he is IMO. I do like Grealish, though, but given the fee you'd expect a nailed on starter, whereas he's going to rotate with Fernandes and Rashford.
Tbh I haven't really seen him play anything from the right, can anyone inform me if they have? I'm not very keen on us buying ANOTHER player that can excel on the left but turns to an awkward version of obertan/bebe playing on the right. We made that mistake with sanchez. Sure, if he can play in free mata role out right (albeit being right footed), then maybe, but wouldn't that just postpone the actual purchase of a RW?
I mean he would be a good squad option obviously but spending nearly 80m on a quick fix doesn't seem like money well spent.
The idea of a midfield diamond excites me but that sort of relies on attacking full backs, which we don't really have.
I mean he would be a good squad option obviously but spending nearly 80m on a quick fix doesn't seem like money well spent.
The idea of a midfield diamond excites me but that sort of relies on attacking full backs, which we don't really have.
He simply doesn’t and hasn’t played there. It would be mental to sign him for the quoted prices to play him in a unfamiliar position. He plays on the left as he comes inside on his right foot to create, shoot and dribble.
Well if we are really going for him he would cost around that amount. Our biggest problem right now is lack of squad depth. Grealish, able to play a few attacking position, would solve that for us.
I think he'd be a brilliant addition - he's racked up impressive goal and assist stats playing in an abject team with strikers who can't hit a barn door, so it isn't a stretch to assume he could improve on those numbers in a much better team.
On top of that, he'd be able to rotate with the likes of Rashford and Greenwood to keep all 3 of them fresh without the drop off in quality that comes with James or Mata.
On top of that, he'd be able to rotate with the likes of Rashford and Greenwood to keep all 3 of them fresh without the drop off in quality that comes with James or Mata.
He can’t play in any of the front 4 positions, he plays almost exclusively as a LW or CAM.
With Grealish keen to leave, and no one willing to pay the ridiculous fee Villa seemingly want, what will happen?
Will he put in a transfer request, and force Villa to lower their demands?
He's been a loyal servant for a long time, and has stayed at the club through dark days in the Championship when he could've gone to a PL club years ago. They really should allow him to leave for a reasonable fee (40m? 50m? Something like that?). If they don't, I think they'll suffer in the long run. Sure, they'll keep Grealish for another year, but he'll be unhappy (with good reason), and it sends out a really bad signal if they want to sign other talents in the future. If they allow him to leave now, it's a win-win situation, really. He'll be remembered as a modern legend for them, and he'll get to ply his trade for a better club, as he deserves. Whether it's with us or someone else.
I'll be very surprised if he's still a Villa player by the end of the transfer window.
Will he put in a transfer request, and force Villa to lower their demands?
He's been a loyal servant for a long time, and has stayed at the club through dark days in the Championship when he could've gone to a PL club years ago. They really should allow him to leave for a reasonable fee (40m? 50m? Something like that?). If they don't, I think they'll suffer in the long run. Sure, they'll keep Grealish for another year, but he'll be unhappy (with good reason), and it sends out a really bad signal if they want to sign other talents in the future. If they allow him to leave now, it's a win-win situation, really. He'll be remembered as a modern legend for them, and he'll get to ply his trade for a better club, as he deserves. Whether it's with us or someone else.
I'll be very surprised if he's still a Villa player by the end of the transfer window.
Interesting to see that you opted for a RB. Agree with 3/4 of your post but reckon we're in a greater need for a backup LB because even though Williams can chip in that position every once in a while, he isn't really all that good there. Dalot and Williams are RB backups imo.
Very sensible and the most realistic view I've read in here tbh. He's probably got some sort of a gentleman's agreement with the club to stay for another year and subsequently leave in case they get relegated or end up near the bottom again, for a good enough fee that won't price him out.
He would be a good option to play behind a more classic no.9 if Martial doesn’t play. He often dribbles into the box from midfield which is a rare skill and would give us another way of breaking through defences.
I think he is worth big money to us. But I still think Villa will want more than we can pay.
It’s pure fantasy but I want Sancho, Grealish, a CB and a CF. We’ll be out of excuses if we get that lot.
I think he is worth big money to us. But I still think Villa will want more than we can pay.
It’s pure fantasy but I want Sancho, Grealish, a CB and a CF. We’ll be out of excuses if we get that lot.
Would not be £200m all in one go as both Jack & Jadon need to be instalment based deals
@croadyman you really rate Grealish I've noticed.
Yeah I really do because think at Villa we still haven't seen the absolute best of him yet. I want to see what he can do with top players like Pogba, Bruno & Martial around him on a daily basis.
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I'd take Grealish, Brooks and a LB over Sancho, personally. Just think that we have too many issues to address to spend 120m - if that's roughly our total spend this summer - on one player. No matter the player.
I just can't see us spending much more than that, given the financial situation, what our owners want and the general uncertainty.
I just can't see us spending much more than that, given the financial situation, what our owners want and the general uncertainty.
I respect that. To me personally he looks like a player that loves the attention and the responsibility that comes with the spotlight of being a main man, it's always tricky for those type of players to transition to being just a another cog on the wheel. I may be completely wrong of course.
That is a very good point though about him loving being the main man and whether or not he could make that adjustment to being a team player remains to be seen. I just really think he has that game changing swagger and arrogance about him that could be the difference which turns a draw into a win.
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I went with RB as Dalot seems completely out of favour and Williams has played mostly as a LB, but if Ole flipped him to RB competition for AWB and bought a LB I'd have no issue with it.
Better to have another player that can play at an high level than bringing James on. Next season is going to be even more intense and it would be straight from the get go. We need players at a high level, unfortunately, we dont seem to get average performing at a higher level something SAF has done well numerous times.
I have to say think there could well be some truth in us only being interested in Jack when it looked like Pogba was leaving
You know we can just compare Sancho to Grealish in the Championship right? The advantage you're giving Sancho would disappear if you compare Sancho to Grealish from the 2018/19 season because it's clear his side were a top side in the Championship by virtue of them being promoted.
I desperately would like to see them in this Utd side but it looks mission near impossible right now
No thanks. 80m for a backup. We shouldn't even contemplate the idea of him playing on the right, get an actual winger.
I am talking about having him in the Bruno role when we are playing teams that press us high,however with teams who give us the ball you can start either Jack or Marcus on the LW depending on who is in form at the time. I also am very confident it won't be costing us £80m either.
What about 30M+AT & Romero ? Can we get him with that deal as Villa can get 2 good players and 30M cash.
Tom Heaton is training again so no need for a keeper. If you really rate Romero at 30m then perhaps play him in some of your bigger games ahead of DDG. Didn't you sign him on a free transfer?
30m for Romero? We'll get 10m tops, who said 30m?
How much do you value Grealish at?
50-60m. I really can't see us selling him now though with how quick the season turnaround is. He'll also surely start being called up for England from September. Try again next summer and you could get him as his value will start to reduce.
If you were bunging in a player I'd actually probably take Daniel James on a season loan as we badly lack pace in the final third and looks like he struggled a bit second half of the season so probably needs somewhere where he can start 25-30 games in premier league. Axel did well for us but so many injuries already in his career isn't a good look.....
Please remember we're a club who once swopped James Milner for Stephen Ireland so that's why I'm nervous about swop deals.
50-60m. I really can't see us selling him now though with how quick the season turnaround is. He'll also surely start being called up for England from September. Try again next summer and you could get him as his value will start to reduce.
If you were bunging in a player I'd actually probably take Daniel James on a season loan as we badly lack pace in the final third and looks like he struggled a bit second half of the season so probably needs somewhere where he can start 25-30 games in premier league. Axel did well for us but so many injuries already in his career isn't a good look.....
Please remember we're a club who once swopped James Milner for Stephen Ireland so that's why I'm nervous about swop deals.
I think that valuation is bang on, similar to the Bruno deal.
However does he even want to leave?
£55 million for jack and a season long loan for James with an option to buy would be brilliant for us.
I’d still want sancho
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