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Logically where does he fit and none of this rubbish of pushing him deeper, it would be a waste of talent which we are known too much for for as long as I can remember.

For him to fit into the team rashford has to be a striker because they will be getting in each other's way as grealish likes to drift between the left wing and playing behind the striker, what does that also mean for Fernandes as he will be forced to play deep in a 4231 formation and that is not his best postion either?
 
An outstanding DM is key, but there is also an option to play in a MF diamond, with Bruno at the head, but that position could easily be interchangable with Grealish.

...........Fernandes.........
Grealish.......McTominay
.............. DM...............

Personally, I think this would be a much better option for United than trying to play with three forwards, and getting overrun in Midfield.
I have been thinking about that a lot too but I don't think our fullbacks are good enough to provide high quality wide play in any two striker system we might play be it a diamond or Atletico's 4-4-2 with four CMs.

Having spent £50m on AWB there is no scope to improve on that and I don't expect the Glazers to accept such an expensive signing being benched.

However looking at Martial and Rashford in the context of what we need and the money we have available I think if we sign Grealish we would have no choice than to play a 4-2-2-2 formation, lining up as

--------Rashford---Martial-----------
-----Grealish---------Fernandez
---------DM----------Fred/McTominay-

At least we would have Rashford and Martial starting, they combine well but neither is good enough for a lone striker role whilst a 4-3-3 demands that we sign a quality wing forward. Grealish and Fernandez play up the pitch sharing the creative burden whilst McTomominay/Fred and ne DM shore up the midfield. My worries are the fullbacks but we could sign an attacking left footed left back and make do with AWB.
 
Logically where does he fit and none of this rubbish of pushing him deeper, it would be a waste of talent which we are known too much for for as long as I can remember.

For him to fit into the team rashford has to be a striker because they will be getting in each other's way as grealish likes to drift between the left wing and playing behind the striker, what does that also mean for Fernandes as he will be forced to play deep in a 4231 formation and that is not his best postion either?
It's either we play a 4-3-3 with both of them as attacking box to box players but then the midfield would be vulnerable on the break or you play 4-2-2-2 with a DM and a CM them both of them up the pitch. Grealish's ball carrying abilities and maverick talents alongside Bruno's shooting and high energy game.
 
I think we’d play him deeper. He doesn’t look like a 10 to me like Bruno does.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to add his quality in there.
But I think he is a number 10. He's a goal threat, and a dribbler. I don't think we'd use that deeper.
 
I like him but it we're persisting with the 4231 I'm not sure he should be a priority now Bruno is here. It would be a waste to push one of them deeper and unless we move to a 433 and sign a monster DM it would be a difficult thing to balance.

Really think we should he prioritising the signing of a deeper midfielder, that said if the price is good I wouldn't say no. Having him and Bruno for the advanced midfielder role is a massive improvement on Lingard and Periera.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to add his quality in there.
But I think he is a number 10. He's a goal threat, and a dribbler. I don't think we'd use that deeper.
I can't say I've seen a lot of his games, but I think he's got the all round game to play in a 3 with Bruno and a defensive mid, who I think we need as a matter of priority. We need depth in midfield, and with him able to play in Bruno's position or Fred's I think he'd get plenty of games. Whether we'd spend that money when so many other areas need addressing is another question, but if Villa go down we'd be silly not to at least keep tabs on him.
 
All these with ideas about Sancho and Pogba in the same team, forget it. Pogba wants to leave. He may be here for another 18 months maximum, the length of his contract. Maybe Woody will cut him loose to get a decent transfer fee in the summer. Sancho will only consider coming here if we get Champions League place which looks more doubtful every game. Chelsea are reportedly after him and have a great chance of finishing 4th.
Grealish on the other hand I can see happening. He has liked posts from Utd fans, one mentioning his goal against us and the fan saying imagine doing this for Utd. Grealish Bruno and Fred/McTom could be our midfield next season.
 
I'd love us to go back to a 442/4411 and go with

Rashford Martial
Grealish Fred Bruno Winger
Williams Maguire Lindelof Wan-Bissaka
De Gea
 
All these with ideas about Sancho and Pogba in the same team, forget it. Pogba wants to leave. He may be here for another 18 months maximum, the length of his contract. Maybe Woody will cut him loose to get a decent transfer fee in the summer. Sancho will only consider coming here if we get Champions League place which looks more doubtful every game. Chelsea are reportedly after him and have a great chance of finishing 4th.
Grealish on the other hand I can see happening. He has liked posts from Utd fans, one mentioning his goal against us and the fan saying imagine doing this for Utd. Grealish Bruno and Fred/McTom could be our midfield next season.

While he stayed with Villa, his team, in the championship, it's too big a stretch to expect him to stay with them if they go down - so he'd definitely be off.

But will they start talking silly money, 60m and suchlike?
 
I'd love us to go back to a 442/4411 and go with

Rashford Martial
Grealish Fred Bruno Winger
Williams Maguire Lindelof Wan-Bissaka
De Gea

That midfield would be totally bypassed by any quality team. There's not even a hint of anyone who can tackle in there.
 
That midfield would be totally bypassed by any quality team. There's not even a hint of anyone who can tackle in there.

I wouldn't say so. Fred racks his fair share of tackles, and I can only imagine Fernades, if played deeper, would be averaging more tackles per game.

Having said that, that would be a team Sir Alex would put out, especially when we're at home and should be playing on the front foot. Yes, we may be open, but we used to be a team that, if the opposition scored 3, we scored 4.

We need to bring exciting attacking play back to our team, especially when we're at home. We see bits of it in games, but we haven't got the ability in the midfield to build relentless attacks and peg teams back. The team above, whilst attacking, would do that, in my opinion.
 
While he stayed with Villa, his team, in the championship, it's too big a stretch to expect him to stay with them if they go down - so he'd definitely be off.

But will they start talking silly money, 60m and suchlike?
I think it will be around 60-70 million. I also think other teams will be after him as well. Remember Newcastle wanted 50 million for Longstaff
 
I'd love us to go back to a 442/4411 and go with

Rashford Martial
Grealish Fred Bruno Winger
Williams Maguire Lindelof Wan-Bissaka
De Gea
That would be good in attack not so good defending. Change it to 4141 with a slight change in personel.

Rashford
Grealish Fred Bruno Winger
DM/Anchor
Williams Maguire Lindelof Wan-Bissaka
De Gea
Wiegl from Benfica would ba a good shout. Ole fancies Rice from West Ham
 
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FW- Martial
LAM - Rashford
RAM - Greenwood
CAM - Grealish
CM- Fernandes
DM - Fred
LB - Williams
RB - Wan Bissaka
CB - Maguire
CB - Lindelof
GK - De Gea

If we got Grealish I'd hope to see him get the 7 shirt. I reckon he'd want it as well.
 
I think it will be around 60-70 million. I also think other teams will be after him as well. Remember Newcastle wanted 50 million for Longstaff
We paid 80m for Maguire and the rumoured price for Maddison was at least as much. We could be talking £90m+ for Grealish, and I'd pay it personally. He could be a transformative player for us. Presuming Pogba leaves we'll have money to spend.
 
He doesn't normally play on the right side. However, if he does come here, likely going to play on the right as a false winger like how we use Pereira & Mata on the right side. He can still get his chance to play as a 10 when Bruno got injured or when we had no other option anymore, but I can't see him to be the no 1 choice of no 10 role above Bruno.

DDG
Back Four
Fred - Pogba
Grealish Bruno Rashford
Martial​
 
Can't be a priority now that we have Bruno as he'll be our starting AM for the foreseeable future. Grealish playing as a CM wouldn't make sense as there are much better CM options we can go for. Playing Bruno and Grealish at the same time would leave us vulnerable.
 
Bruno and Grealish can coexist in the same team with Grealish who can cut in from left where can Bruno playing at No.10 can swift between MF and AMF, more a hardworking No.10.Also like to see Fred and Mctominay behind these two with Rashford leading the upfront.

------------------------------Rashford/Ighalo----------------------------
Grealish/Martial--------Bruno------------------James/Mason/New signing
-------------------Fred----------------McTominay--------
-------------------------Back 4-----------------------------------------

Too me this team looks good at least on paper but we might still lack a player in MF and signing player who could play on top of back 4 is priority, which would give us the flexibility we are looking in the MF and the valuable depth.
 
I'd rather him than Maddison now we've signed Bruno, that's for sure. I'd use the Pogba money to sign Grealish and a top-class CDM (but to be honest, we've probably used the CDM on Bruno already).
 
We paid 80m for Maguire and the rumoured price for Maddison was at least as much. We could be talking £90m+ for Grealish, and I'd pay it personally. He could be a transformative player for us. Presuming Pogba leaves we'll have money to spend.
I think the Villa will go down and that may knock the price down a bit. If they stay up it will be very difficult to buy him and £80-90 million plus could become the price.
 
Bruno and Grealish can coexist in the same team with Grealish who can cut in from left where can Bruno playing at No.10 can swift between MF and AMF, more a hardworking No.10.Also like to see Fred and Mctominay behind these two with Rashford leading the upfront.

------------------------------Rashford/Ighalo----------------------------
Grealish/Martial--------Bruno------------------James/Mason/New signing
-------------------Fred----------------McTominay--------
-------------------------Back 4-----------------------------------------

Too me this team looks good at least on paper but we might still lack a player in MF and signing player who could play on top of back 4 is priority, which would give us the flexibility we are looking in the MF and the valuable depth.
I dont think Grealish and Ighalo will be in the same team, unless Ighalo bangs in a ton of goals between now and the end of the season. Then there will be a hefty transfer fee to pay. Isnt he only on loan until the end of the season from a Chinese club? Ole or whoever is in charge will surely target a younger striker.
 
I think the Villa will go down and that may knock the price down a bit. If they stay up it will be very difficult to buy him and £80-90 million plus could become the price.
Do Villa have as much money as Leicester? PLUS you’d feel Grealish would push for a move a bit more.
 
I dont think Grealish and Ighalo will be in the same team, unless Ighalo bangs in a ton of goals between now and the end of the season. Then there will be a hefty transfer fee to pay. Isnt he only on loan until the end of the season from a Chinese club? Ole or whoever is in charge will surely target a younger striker.
Bought in Ighalo name b'cos he's in the squad right now as striker and I agree with you unless he scores goals he won't be seen here next season.
 
I think the Villa will go down and that may knock the price down a bit. If they stay up it will be very difficult to buy him and £80-90 million plus could become the price.
If they step up we can still get him considering Grealish was the main reason they are in top fight and they won't stop him moving to the big club, price could be here and there but still attainable and should be much lower than Maddison figure.
 
He is a good looking lad as well and if Andreas is not going to be playing much we need to cater for the growing female audience as well because the rest of the midfielders are definitely not head turners.
 
Transfermarkt has him valued at £31m. I'd guess he's going to go for Bruno kind of money with a deal structured in add ons and such. Say in the region of 50-60m.

Rumours today that Barca and Madrid want him but hopefully a year in the PL has given him the taste for more and he wants to remain in England.

You'd like to think United have been monitoring this for a while and have some kind of agreement in place at least. I fear he'll attract alot of attention in the summer so it's going to be down to who is interested and what the player wants. Really hope we can snare him as he's perfect for what we are building and another leader on the pitch.
 
I think he could work well in a 4-3-3:

De Gea
Wan Bissaka Tuanzebe Maguire Williams
McTominay
Fernandes Grealish
Sancho Martial Rashford​

All three midfielders are hard-working, physical - and can all score from distance.

McTominay shields the defence, puts tackles in, etc.

Fernandes and Grealish are both very technical, creative.

I think this would be a good counter-attacking team.
 
I think that Grealish could be a great player for us. He has every attribut for a creative player, and given his experience of playing well in the Premier League, he could become one of the key United players.
 
FW- Martial
LAM - Rashford
RAM - Greenwood
CAM - Grealish
CM- Fernandes
DM - Fred
LB - Williams
RB - Wan Bissaka
CB - Maguire
CB - Lindelof
GK - De Gea

If we got Grealish I'd hope to see him get the 7 shirt. I reckon he'd want it as well.

No one should get the 7 shirt on signing for us. That shirt has to be earned after proving 18 months of consistency, quality and loyalty to the club.
 
Why do you think this? When we've just signed a player in his position for a fair wad of wonger?

Different players mate, not to mention different positions...

Bruno's gunna play in our midfield, centrally. Grealish could play behind a striker but he's best out wide where he can ghost past people like he does
 
I'm honestly surprised people still want him. We just got Bruno, and people still want him. If Pogba stays, which I admit it's an if, then any wish for him is bizarre. Definition of a luxury buy at that point. Money should be going towards Sancho, despite him more likely to reject us if we're not in CL. If not Sancho, then another RW.
 
I think it games against smaller teams that park the bus having Fernandes AND Grealish in the same starting line up with an out and out defensive midfielder to cover their attacking instincts is a great idea, let’s be honest we all know Pogba is off in the summer so why limit ourselves to banking on Fernandes being our ONLY potential spark from midfield ?

I wasn’t sold on Grealish until this season but he’s shown he can carry an entire team creatively, score goals and be a genuine leader on the pitch which is something we’ve lacked since Scholes and if Villa go down then he’ll 100% be off in the summer.

If we get £150 million for Pogba then I’d go flat out for Sancho and Grealish as our two main transfer targets in the summer and those two along with Fernandes completely transform us attacking and creative wise, we’d still need an out and out defensive midfielder to balance everything.
 
I'm honestly surprised people still want him. We just got Bruno, and people still want him. If Pogba stays, which I admit it's an if, then any wish for him is bizarre. Definition of a luxury buy at that point. Money should be going towards Sancho, despite him more likely to reject us if we're not in CL. If not Sancho, then another RW.

Have you seen the lack of creativity in this team?

Pogba is a brilliant player but the problem is he gives us more problems than it is worth.

Grealish and Bruno along with DM will be a good hard working midfield.
 
I think he could work well in a 4-3-3:

De Gea
Wan Bissaka Tuanzebe Maguire Williams
McTominay
Fernandes Grealish
Sancho Martial Rashford​

All three midfielders are hard-working, physical - and can all score from distance.

McTominay shields the defence, puts tackles in, etc.

Fernandes and Grealish are both very technical, creative.

I think this would be a good counter-attacking team.

Assuming Pogba leaves, a solid DM in place of McTom and that'd be perfect I reckon. Ndidi would be my ideal pick.

Ndidi & Sancho - Around £150m do we think? Maybe the club would stretch that as a one off summer, unlikely mind.

Assuming Pogba leaves for around 100m, I reckon you could add grealish to that and only be looking at ~ 100m spend. What's that, 2/3s of a Felix these days?!
 
Assuming Pogba leaves, a solid DM in place of McTom and that'd be perfect I reckon. Ndidi would be my ideal pick.

Ndidi & Sancho - Around £150m do we think? Maybe the club would stretch that as a one off summer, unlikely mind.

Assuming Pogba leaves for around 100m, I reckon you could add grealish to that and only be looking at ~ 100m spend. What's that, 2/3s of a Felix these days?!
Can't see Sancho going for less than 120m and Leicester won't let Ndidi go cheap, he will be 60+ alone.
 
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