I'm in the Grealish fan club and last season considered him pretty much worthy of the 'god-like status'. But he'll probably never appear to fulfil those expectations at City simply because their team play is so all-consuming and generally at such a high level that there's limited room for individuality to shine. De Bruyne is the only one of their current stable of creative talent who's ever managed to be so undeniably top drawer that his highlights look more notable than just 'very good player involved in very good team move.' Grealish could do the same, possibly - I believe he has the ability - but he could also end up as another Bernardo Silva or Mahrez or even Gundogan at the moment. Talented cogs in an effective machine, who's contribution will be remembered more as part of a whole than in their own right.
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I'm in the Grealish fan club and last season considered him pretty much worthy of the 'god-like status'. But he'll probably never appear to fulfil those expectations at City simply because their team play is so all-consuming and generally at such a high level that there's limited room for individuality to shine. De Bruyne is the only one of their current stable of creative talent who's ever managed to be so undeniably top drawer that his highlights look more notable than just 'very good player involved in very good team move.' Grealish could do the same, possibly - I believe he has the ability - but he could also end up as another Bernardo Silva or Mahrez or even Gundogan at the moment. Talented cogs in an effective machine, who's contribution will be remembered more as part of a whole than in their own right.
He's certainly a tidy player in recycling the ball, but in my view he's not great at beating the man, doesn't deliver a great cross, he is not a great defender, but if he works for Pep's system than that's all that matters I suppose.
He fits our system so well.
Can't wait for Foden to return, them 2 are tailor made for interchanging positions on the left
Can't wait for Foden to return, them 2 are tailor made for interchanging positions on the left
As a chalk on boots wide man he won't succeed but Pep will realise that soon enough. Even Foden is more natural on the left than him.
I think every signing is a risk and prem proven is a bit of a myth imo. For example the teams Grealish played against last season will be set up entirely differently due to them facing Man City rather than Villa.
I think you are just looking at things the way they are rather than what options were actually available. Pep could easily make Sterling fit into the side and not push him to the sidelines and I am sure he would rather stay if that were the case. Anyway, you have who you have. I think it was not a signing that you needed and think other areas were a priority.
I don't rate Zinchenko a bad player, I think you should have signed Digne personally who I think is quite a bit better.
But do Sterling and Mahrez not already give you that? At least one of them is benched for Grealish.
Mate, you are saying Sancho struggles to dribble past defenders.
I can literally show you 100 examples of him doing it beautifully.
Sancho struggles to beat players from a standing start.
Unbelievable, Jeff.Sancho struggles to beat players from a standing start.
Yeah there's too much hype. He wasn't that good against an appalling arsenal team but I'm seeing so much praise.
The only man who can beat his man from a sleeping start
Just don't let him get into a car at 3am
Sancho struggles to beat players from a standing start.
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Here's a simple idea, go watch his highlights in the Champions League against PSG and Tottenham. He completes about half his dribbles when forced to dribble against a man from a standing start.
Don't get me wrong he has great close control and can dribble well when he's already running, but his acceleration from a standing start isn't close to the likes of Nani, Mane, Hazard, Neymar etc. The reason I bring it up because against teams that sit deep against us (which as per last season, is the majority), he'll find it hard to beat players. Again, you'll see this throughout this season.
Doesn't look out of place in a city shirt....
He is fitting well as LWF in City front 3, but could he play together with Foden, Sterling though.
People will laugh but I'll say it again:
Grealish = a slightly slower Willian
Sancho = a younger Mata
That's not in any way a criticism of either, but strip away the hairband and the Bundesliga sheen and that's what they are.
Grealish = a slightly slower Willian
Sancho = a younger Mata
That's not in any way a criticism of either, but strip away the hairband and the Bundesliga sheen and that's what they are.
Sancho struggles to beat players from a standing start.
What? Thats one of his strengths. Slowing defenders and himself down till stopped and then leaving them for dead.
He is literally excellent at it.
You are a weird combination of wrong and also sounding incredibly smug about it.
Would you not say 50% dribble success against top defenders is quite exceptional?
You are making it clear you barely have watched Sancho. What does it even mean “when forced to dribble at a standing start”? He’s one of the best dribblers around whether standing or running and that’s fact. You comparing him with the best dribblers this generation has seen in Neymar, Nani, Hazard says it all because he’s that good.
Grealish is much better than Willian.
He’s brilliant.
He’s brilliant.
Not really Sterling is a finisher not a creator by any stretch. But its a straight shot between him and Sterling for the LW if Sterling doesn't move on as I think Foden will be more central maybe even f9 alot this season.
Not me that said it.
So where are Jack's 4 assists per game? Souness said the other week it's the expectation of a £100m player
Sorry I forgot to change the quote when I read back.
You're the one throwing around stupid insults when you're posts are all just cliches like 'you just listen to the press' with very little substance in them. The mental gymnastics you've gone through in this thread to convince yourself Sancho is great and Grealish isn't any better is astounding. As I've said countless times give it 15-20 games in the league this season and you'll see, Grealish will far outperform Sancho, that's all there is to say. Too many have this mythical idea about Sancho from being given the whole world of space in the Bundesliga, let's have this conversation again in 10 games time.
One of Ronaldo’s biggest weaknesses is rising up for headers in the box. He usually gets his timing wrong or gets out jumped by a defender.
I have said about 5 times that Sancho and Grealish are of a very similar level.
I am sorry that some people don't think that Grealish is the messiah you seem to.
Same with players like Vidic and Terry, they were poor at winning headers. Also if Rio had pace, he would have been awesome CB.
This is amazing.
This thread is bizarre.
Grealish is a good player. But when you set out your strategy for the year and declare you have £100 million to improve the company, you don’t put all your eggs in one basket.
Does he improve the squad? Undoubtedly.
Does he improve the first 11? Slightly.
Is a slight improvement worth £100 million to City? Hell no. But when £100 million is like a loose £10 note you didn’t even know you had, who cares.
I cant help but think that kane would have improved their first xi considerably more
i also cant help but think that if city had not agreed to pay 100m for Grealish nobody else would have done
perhaps pep is going to surprise us by making foden a false 9 or something but at the moment it looks like they have strengthened an area of their team that is already incredibly strong
(wide options) Stirling, Mahrez, Foden, Siva, Torres plus Grealish
(Attacking mid options) KDB, Foden, Silva plus Grealish
at the expense of strengthening their central striking options (as well as DM options and Left back since Mendys last minute move to HMP Altcourse)
But yeah it seems a little strange (though so does Chelsea adding Saul to an already crowded midfield)
All the time while people are saying he was a waste of money and City didn’t need him, he’s playing great, scoring, assisting, topping the player ratings.
Who was saying that? I think everyone was saying he was the best player in the prem last season. I swear people just make up shit all the time on these boards..
Where have you been the past 4 games he has played. No where to be seen because he was below par as soon as he has a good game you come in here running to tell everyone how wonderful he is.
They don't need him, but I don't see what connection that has with the fact he's doing well for them which practically everyone expected? If people said he'd be shit and flop your post would make some sense.