I have no doubt this is true for some. Some of you only have eyes for Grealish after all, so I'd be surprised if you noticed anyone else on the pitch.
Jack Grealish | Man City
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They made a good point about space on Sky. Saying he had more space to run into at Villa as they were quite often defending then countering. With City he will more often than not come uo against teams defending deep and compact etc.
He’s just a staggeringly bizarre buy for city. I mean, Pep buys players for his system and always has done. They may flop, but you could never look at a pep buy and say you were struggling to understand the purpose behind the purchase.
So then he goes out and purchases an English show pony for an eye watering sum who provides absolutely nothing above and beyond the players he already has, and has nothing statistically exceptional to show for his performances by the grand old age of 25 to justify the £100m fee.
He’s inferior to Sterling as a left sided forward. He’s inferior to de bruyne as a creative midfielder. He’d be inferior to mahrez as a right sided forward. He’d be no better than Bernardo Silva as a right sided midfielder.
He’s not a false or a true 9, he’s not a defensive midfielder so can’t deputise for an ageing Fernandinho. So why was he bought, particularly when they’re playing a substandard Mendy at left back and Jesus/Torres as a striker?
So then he goes out and purchases an English show pony for an eye watering sum who provides absolutely nothing above and beyond the players he already has, and has nothing statistically exceptional to show for his performances by the grand old age of 25 to justify the £100m fee.
He’s inferior to Sterling as a left sided forward. He’s inferior to de bruyne as a creative midfielder. He’d be inferior to mahrez as a right sided forward. He’d be no better than Bernardo Silva as a right sided midfielder.
He’s not a false or a true 9, he’s not a defensive midfielder so can’t deputise for an ageing Fernandinho. So why was he bought, particularly when they’re playing a substandard Mendy at left back and Jesus/Torres as a striker?
Forgetting the Etoo plus cash swap for Ibra?
nah, there was some semblance of a plan there - after what chelsea did to them in the CL, they needed an alternative route to goal.
buying that alternative for a record fee, selling your well-integrated main striker, and having the new guy compete with the GOAT for the same position - that was the less worked out part of the plan
So he did he or didn’t he have a good game? I didn’t watch it, but the responses on here to his performance seems varied.
You take that out of him and isn't he then just ordinary? What else does he bring to the table that's at an elite level?
His chance creation stats/assists (actual and expected) are very high, tbf. He’s a very creative player, but he is one who slows play a lot and main asset is his dribbling/progressively carrying to draw fouls.
He doesn’t score a lot at all, nor does he press/make much of a defensive contribution, but yeah — can he keep his high chance creation stats playing at City whilst also being expected to dwell less on the ball? Can he add goals to his game? Those are probably the two main questions around him.
It's weird timeline isn't it that United fans are getting pissed off at people mocking the performance of a rival team most expensive player. I can see Grealish is a good player but I don't know what is driving this cult following. He has achieved feck all in his career both at personal and at team level. But if you read some of the comments that have been posted here it seems like he is the second coming of Jesus himself ( not City player)
Because City are trying to assemble two title winning teams to back each other up, whatever the cost.
When we were rumoured to be in for him, most of us thought he would be a back up to Bruno. He's definitely not going to get a much higher standing at City.
Extrapolation doesn't work in football. If he could get those numbers, he would. Simple as. Being fit is a big quality too. He's almost 26, he's had multiple chances to be a very productive player by now in his career.
On Bluemoon he is there man of the match LUL.
My word, another one who thinks this guy tops KdB
Why stop there? He's already the league's best player!
I felt he got lost because he was literally fighting alone for ages up until KDB came on. City looked like they hadn't played a minute of pre season. It was very strange.
Haven't you been paying attention? He's been the league's best player since he got injured last season. Basically the less he plays the more his reputation is enhanced.
He is streets ahead of what Bernardo Silva has offered for the last year and a half. He is also ahead of Mahrez too. I expect he and KDB to be mint as double 10s.
He may well have a good spell at City, but the transfer fee for him seems so ridiculous. There's an argument a player is worth what any club will pay for them, but I'd argue a better approximate of a player's value is what multiple clubs would pay for them.
Would anyone else have been agreeing to pay £90m for Grealish? What about £80m, £70m, or even £60m? There's been no strong interest from Chelsea, United, Liverpool or Spurs, and zero interest from abroad.
Would anyone else have been agreeing to pay £90m for Grealish? What about £80m, £70m, or even £60m? There's been no strong interest from Chelsea, United, Liverpool or Spurs, and zero interest from abroad.
Because they did much more than that. This « he wins a lot of fouls » bullshit is only because his stats are not indicative of a great player.
He is obviously really nice to watch but the end product is not there.
I really don’t know how some are saying he is better then Bruno when the guy is ace and proving it every game by his input on the game not by playing nice…
Don't see how that works defensively considering Grealish does feck all in that respect.
I'm sure he will turn good at some point but I've always had the impression the transfer was more about marketing rather than improving this City team.
What's the point of buying him if he's got to change his style of play? Why not just buy a player like that in the first place?
Who started calling him Ronaldinho ? They couldn't be more different
? They couldn't be more differentIf City want a left flank of Mendy and Grealish, then every opposing manager will be delighted.
I didn't watch them against Leicester but watched them against spurs tonight and he wasn't that bad or good.
I'm not his biggest fan, he's a great player but I'm happy with Sancho.
Let's just wait before jumping the gun.
I'm not his biggest fan, he's a great player but I'm happy with Sancho.
Let's just wait before jumping the gun.
Isn't that down to Pep ? He was looking like the understudy to David Silva. Then gets pushed out wide to the wing and rotated, played out of form. Looks like the shadow of the player he was at Monaco and the first year at City.
Are you an United fan ? Don’t look like it… you should just write it on your profil…
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/grealish-to-city-city-bid-£100m.463156/page-32#post-27450517Who started calling him Ronaldinho
He was 4th in assists last season and 2nd for chances created while missing 11 games. The end product was most definitely there.
As @DWelbz19 said, the main question mark around him now is if he can replicate that while seeing much less of the ball and being expected to move it on quicker.
How doesn’t he have a tag line?
Not his biggest fan but I wish him well!
It reminded me of when Pep's Barcelona bought Cesc. They had the most well oiled attacking unit in world football. However, Pep felt the need to try and change it to 'stay ahead.'
It's a product of the same paranoia that leads him to make baffling tactical decisions in knock out ties. He's so worried about not having something his opponent will be prepared for that he's gone for Grealish. Yet many aspects of Grealish's game just don't match Pep ball.
He can't shoot.
What a shite shite poster. Biased doesn't even come close to describing an opinion as stupid as that
Yeah they reminded me of us against Palace last year. Just looked completely off the pace. I think they were lucky Spurs didn't look especially sharp themselves or it could have been embarrassing.
I don't really see where Grealish fits in at City. I'm not sure what he offers that they don't already have. Seems like more of a PR/marketing signing to me. Not that he isn't a very good player but they already have as good if not better in every role they could pick him in. If they miss out on a striker as a result of signing him then it'll be a bit of an own goal.
He did look more involved and at it than most of their players today but then it was his debut and to be honest it wasn't hard to do more than most of them.
Perhaps why they sanctioned such a move is partly becasue for whatever reason he's already a very popular player, you see it with the England fans as well. I think City owners will want their sort of Beckham to draw in the viewers and further change the image of the club and capture more minds. We see how image conscious City and PSG are.
I expect him to come good but for England and a lower club he can give you possession and control, something that England lacked and really needed at times in the Euros but was on the bench. He can be a focal point at a Villa but City are already in control in most games. I expect him to come good at City like how Pep can steer the play towards Sterling or Gundogan but we'll see. Like many have said he doesn't bring much extra to the team but he can do a similar job but be many more times popular doing it.
I expect him to come good but for England and a lower club he can give you possession and control, something that England lacked and really needed at times in the Euros but was on the bench. He can be a focal point at a Villa but City are already in control in most games. I expect him to come good at City like how Pep can steer the play towards Sterling or Gundogan but we'll see. Like many have said he doesn't bring much extra to the team but he can do a similar job but be many more times popular doing it.
I’m fairly sure Eto’o fell out with Guardiola, who then forced him out of the club, then Ibra came in and they didn’t take to each other, which started the Messi false 9 thing.nah, there was some semblance of a plan there - after what chelsea did to them in the CL, they needed an alternative route to goal.
buying that alternative for a record fee, selling your well-integrated main striker, and having the new guy compete with the GOAT for the same position - that was the less worked out part of the plan
So it wasn’t as much a plan as baldy falling out with 2 big ego players.
SO did he get his hattrick of fouls to match bruno's goals?
He got 5 even