City were awful!!! ONLY Grealish was playing. He must have felt like he was playing at Villa the season they returned to the top flight....
Jack Grealish | Man City
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He was average as the rest of them. I would even say he actively slowed them down.
Clean through on goal and he takes a dive from minimal contact to con a pen..
I guess words are meaningless now. I'd be willing to bet he'll never be much better than he is now.That's not how it works. At a better team, everything won't be going through him. He'll be surrounded by better players who will demand the ball and be able to make stuff happen without him. He's not suddenly going to hoover up all of KDBs and Mahrez's and Silva's assists and goals. The other attackers will get theirs too and he will have to make do with a smaller share of the pie than at Villa.
Do you know how many assists Grealish made in that game against Liverpool?
Grealish provided 10 assists last season and he played 2200 mins of football. De Bruyne provided 12 in 2000 ish. De Bruyne created chances at faster rate. This is precisely the problem with Grealish, his number are magnified and is compared to players who are far far superior. Besides the comparison doesn't make any sense given de Bruyne plays as part of mid 3 while Grealish played as LW for Villa.
Pogba had 4 yesterday against far inferior opposition
Exactly. Players like sterling, salah, Mane, rashford etc that are very direct and love to force the issue will always be key to an attack. Look at how effective Lucas Moira was today running through their midfield. City have only one direct player in sterling. They are in big trouble this year if they drop as many points as last year.
I don't agree at all. The rest of the team did absolutely nothing. He was the only one beating people with any danger and attempting to create things.
If City have to abide by FFP as Pep claims then I don't get why you spend £100m on a player when you have to shoe horn into your line up because you have no actual position for him.
Bizarre. City were a mess and Grealish seemed to just be trying to do the exact same job as Sterling.
Bizarre. City were a mess and Grealish seemed to just be trying to do the exact same job as Sterling.
Grealish is a quality player but I'm not really sure that's where they needed to spend money on.
Thought he grafted well enough and won a few fouls as he always does, but he looked lost and started tring to force things towards the end.
I'd struggle to say anyone in the City team looked decent. De Bruyne made a big difference when he came on but that was it. It's not like Spurs were that great but they were comfortably better and should have won by more.
They had an 18 that cost 900m today. It’s a habit for them
Agreed. It will be interesting to see if Pep can turn him into such a player. I think someone mentioned Alexis Sanchez in this thread and they are quite similar in how they approach football. Although Sanchez did get things together in his final season at Barca, he was far better at Arsenal when allowed the freedom to roam and touch the ball as much as he wanted.
The problem with Grealish being 25 (26 in a few weeks) is its much harder to mould him. People will say he changed KDB and Silva's positions but fundamentally they were still the same players. Grealish will have to change his game considerably to be a Pep player.
Do you know how many assists Grealish made in that game against Liverpool?
Pogba had 4 yesterday against far inferior opposition
Do you know how many goals Ollie Watkins made in that game against Liverpool? Your spoiler pic is applicable again. But, not sure how that is appropriate here. You act like an absolute child whenever someone engages with you.
You were once again using a small sample size and creating a mythical scenario to pretend Grealish is on same level as de Bruyne. These are stats from 2019/20, de Bruyne is on a different planet to Grealish. Only clueless football hipsters think they are comparable. Do us a favor and log off.
Bizarre signing for City, only time will tell if its a master stroke or not but looking from the outside I'm not sure its what they actually needed. Same with Kane if they pursue him I don't think he's the missing player either.
All those stats show is that he made the same amount of assists with far less chances. Keep trying though.
They are from 2019/20 season, where they played full season, not last. 20 assists is same as 6 apparently. Generating a chance every 21 min is same as 36...
You are so clueless
Tbf possibly the biggest mystery in football is how you spend that much money on a team and still end up with Mendy at left back.
Because all the money keeps being spent on players in the same wide positions that they already have players for. LB and ST should have been their priority.
still the same pl;ayer that was at villa where he spent as much time on the grass than he did iwth the ball at his feet
Why not show last season? The stats are similar and they both missed games through injury. I mean, it's not like he wasn't contributing to at least a goal or assist per game until he got injured. So 20+ assists if he'd stayed healthy really isn't mind blowing.They are from 2019/20 season, where they played full season, not last. 20 assists is same as 6 apparently. Generating a chance every 21 min is same as 36...
You are so clueless
Yeah. That's how football works. Extrapolation.
Sir, I request you to take a break from caf for all things good and lovely.
Because there's always potential to win more fouls.
What’s this got to do with his opinion on the matter?
Yeah. That's how football works. Extrapolation.
Maybe but it isn't mind blowing for sure.
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As if Ole hasn’t improved players.
James peril supports Manchester United.
And maybe grealish
And maybe grealish
Fixed.
I did, De Bruyne even with stop and start season was still a better creator than Grealish. He provided more assists in fewer mins, while also generating a chance at higher rate.
As for 20+ assists, you can't extrapolate like that. There are only 2 players in PL history to record 20 assists in a single season. Henry in 03/04, de Bruyne in 19/20. It's very difficult to be consistently productive in the PL. Because, using your logic, Bruno is on course for 114 goals this season.
Anyways, I have zero interest in pursuing this debate. You'll continue shifting the goal posts and I have zero time for that. Keep creating mythical scenarios for your fav boy.
One thing that puzzles me:
People always talk about how many fouls he draws as if that's a good thing. What's the point? It will very occasionally lead to a dangerous situation or even a goal but more often than not the many fouls will disrupt the rhythm of the game and ruin promising attacks.
I thought one of the great qualities of (Chelsea) Hazard was his ability to combine close control with great physique in order to see off challenges and stay on his feet rather than going down. What's so great about winning freekicks?
People always talk about how many fouls he draws as if that's a good thing. What's the point? It will very occasionally lead to a dangerous situation or even a goal but more often than not the many fouls will disrupt the rhythm of the game and ruin promising attacks.
I thought one of the great qualities of (Chelsea) Hazard was his ability to combine close control with great physique in order to see off challenges and stay on his feet rather than going down. What's so great about winning freekicks?
Do people not use their eyes anymore? De Bruyne is a far better player than Grealish. His all around game is matched by very few in the world. I mean, you don’t need stats to see that.
Well, it would work if he played in teams that are reliance on set pieces.
Most of top teams don't and they want free flow football. That's where his suitability becomes a question especially to a manager like Pep not just because he draws fouls, but because he holds the ball for no reasons most of the time.
That dude seems to be so but*hurt for a harmless generic post. Strange stuff really. Hopefully, not a united fan.Wtf "some Bosnian bloke"
He was decent, and he is generally good player, but I doubt he will be a good fit for City. Anyone else thinks his playing style is most similar to Nasri?
I don't get it either, to me it shows he's holding on to the ball too long tbh
Grealish is a fantastic player but he's just not really what City needed, he wasn't the final piece of the puzzle, they've got so many players that can do the job he will be expected to do, is he really streets above Sterling, Mahrez, Silva etc ?
Chelsea pay 120m for Lukaku which again is far too much for him but you can understand why they done that, they need exactly that type of player to become more complete, City also needed a proper striker and might still get Kane but if it just ends up being Grealish it doesn't really improve them or elevate them more than what they already are.
He already looks like City’s best player.
But still plenty of time for him to flop (for those who keep saying he will).
But still plenty of time for him to flop (for those who keep saying he will).
Not sure where Squealish fits into this Coventry team. He seemed to be wanting to occupy the same space as Sterling, leaving them unbalanced. Left a huge gap in the midfield for 36 year old Fernandinho to cover. Spurs countered down that side over and over.
De Bruyne was only on for 10 mins, but instantly showed the gulf in class.
Jack is a luxury player, who will never achieve the same numbers as Bruno.
De Bruyne was only on for 10 mins, but instantly showed the gulf in class.
Jack is a luxury player, who will never achieve the same numbers as Bruno.
He's going to flop there, I said this over the summer. No way this works out well for him in the long run