Jaap Stam

Keilyn27 said:
when ppl think a player's good, rumours that a big club's after him serve to reinforce their opinion. for someone like heskey, sorry but most ppl'll just laugh it off and simply disregard the rumour.
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I have to disagree with you on this thing. There was a certian interest by AC Milan for Emile Heskey during his Leicester times. His name was brought forward by the then chief scout Cesare Maldini (father of Paulo Maldini) and this was said to the media by Cesare himself during an U21 friendly between Italy and England. It seemed that Cesare wanted Heskey but the transfer was blocked by Milan's owner Berlusconi, who saw the 12m rating as too high for Heskey. That man havent become rich just because he acted stupidly right? ;)
 
devilish said:
I have to disagree with you on this thing. There was a certian interest by AC Milan for Emile Heskey during his Leicester times. His name was brought forward by the then chief scout Cesare Maldini (father of Paulo Maldini) and this was said to the media by Cesare himself during an U21 friendly between Italy and England. It seemed that Cesare wanted Heskey but the transfer was blocked by Milan's owner Berlusconi, who saw the 12m rating as too high for Heskey. That man havent become rich just because he acted stupidly right? ;)
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rare case of the owner knowing more than a football man, managers aren't always perfect ;) but the recent rumours of heskey to milan's ludicrous
 
devilish said:
Today (I know because my biggest mate happened to be Gaz, Phil and Becks escort whenever they used to come to Malta) our players are only allowed to drink (and in the summer) one pint of lager.
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How big is this mate of yours?

500 pounds?
 
Murt said:
If he really wanted to stay he would have, Yorke hung in there because he thought Fergie was going. Stam didnt exactly take a long time over his decision did he?
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How could Stam stay when SAF’d already made it so clear that he wasn’t wanted? When Fab was frozen out, he played zero games not even with the reserves. It’d have been hard for Stam to tough out that 9 months while waiting for the new manager to come in.

After seeing a homegrown player (usually assumed to be more loyal) and self-professed Red creating a big media controversy when he found his place under threat (but some’ll insist that he’s still a Red :smirk: ), I don’t expect Stam to show his commitment by sitting on the sidelines for a season.

Yorke on the other hand looked like he wasn’t bothered about not playing so long as he got his cheque. I won’t call his playing the waiting game a proof of his loyalty.
 
devilish said:
Today's football is different than the times when Robbo's plyed his trade. Football is faster, played at higher rythms and you have to be in tip top form to reach those high demands. Today (I know because my biggest mate happened to be Gaz, Phil and Becks escort whenever they used to come to Malta) our players are only allowed to drink (and in the summer) one pint of lager.
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:lol:

Maybe you should drop into the Living Room in Manchester one night....
 
Keilyn27 said:
rare case of the owner knowing more than a football man, managers aren't always perfect ;) but the recent rumours of heskey to milan's ludicrous
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Cesare Maldini was a chief scout at Milan, but is a very influential figure at AC Milan.

Berlusconi is a great business man (he built his own empire) a fabulous administrator (Its amazing how he manages to keep close tabs over AC Milan, his financial empire, and Italy (he is country’s Prime minister after all)) and a great AC Milan’s supporter.
He was the President of AC Milan during their golden era, and although he left much of the responsibilities to Galliani now, he is still hold great respect at Milanello and all delicate issues are given to him.
 
devilish said:
Cesare Maldini was a chief scout at Milan, but is a very influential figure at AC Milan.

Berlusconi is a great business man (he built his own empire) a fabulous administrator (Its amazing how he manages to keep close tabs over AC Milan, his financial empire, and Italy (he is country’s Prime minister after all)) and a great AC Milan’s supporter.
He was the President of AC Milan during their golden era, and although he left much of the responsibilities to Galliani now, he is still hold great respect at Milanello and all delicate issues are given to him.
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Berlusconi is a corrupt tw@t
 
An Extremely Boring Man said:
:lol:

Maybe you should drop into the Living Room in Manchester one night....
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Manchester United supporters club in Malta hold close ties with Manchester United. For example Its a fact that Gaz hold a school of excellence in Malta for young players that is opened during every summer. My friend helps him with the administration of it and had developed a great friendship with the Nevilles and with Becks. He was even invited to Becks marriage.
 
devilish said:
How do you know

Had he touched you?
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Yeah, Berlusconi used to touch Boring in a very soft and gentle way.

:smirk:
 
devilish said:
He was even invited to Becks marriage.
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He was invited to Becks marriage :eek: Blimey, that's a bit of a story....

Rio is a pisshead
Wes is a pisshead
Giggs is regularly out getting pissed
Butt is regularly out getting pissed
O'Shea likes a good drink or ten
Saha is probably missing the Kings Road watering holes as we speak
Barthez loves a drink

I've seen these lads out getting pissed many a times - be it London or in Manchester.

Gary and Phil Neville, Paul Scholes and Beckham are socially inept, and wouldn't know what having a good time means....
 
/Bump....Probably my favourite defender of all time. Missed him terribly and it kinda saddens me that he didn't finished his career with us. Could have gave us at least 6 more years of top level service. Best centreback of all our history, bar none.
 
devilish said:
Football is like work Boring. If someone has problems in his personal life than those problems would reflect in his work and that can be devastating when you are playing at the highest levels.

Cole (known as a good family man) forged a great friendship with Yorke. This friendship helped Yorke to settle down, and was the main strengths behind the Calypso boys. Yet when Yorke convinced Cole to join a threesome and the media caught them everything changed. Cole was devastated expecially when his GF was thinking of leaving him and things took settled down after that Cole promised that he will stay away from Yorke. This was the beginning of the end of the Calypso boys tandem.

I know this story particularly well because I have friends very close to SAF and SAF told them that he was concerned about Yorke’s attitude. SAF at time did his best to patch things up between Cole and his GF yet he knew that the damage was done and that this would reflected into their game.

And remember Boring SAF is never wrong. right?
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Didn't knew Devilish is ITK.
 
For a minute there i thought SAF had re-signed him.Seems to be a few going down memory lane with the missing Scholes thread as well.
 
devilish said:
Today (I know because my biggest mate happened to be Gaz, Phil and Becks escort whenever they used to come to Malta) our players are only allowed to drink (and in the summer) one pint of lager.
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:lol::lol:
 
Big Headed Stam was a godly defender. There was another thread back in the day about him at his best and Rio at his - Stam still takes it for me.
 
An Extremely Boring Man said:
:lol:

Maybe you should drop into the Living Room in Manchester one night....
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devilish said:
Manchester United supporters club in Malta hold close ties with Manchester United. For example Its a fact that Gaz hold a school of excellence in Malta for young players that is opened during every summer. My friend helps him with the administration of it and had developed a great friendship with the Nevilles and with Becks. He was even invited to Becks marriage.
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:lol: And?

One pint per summer. :lol:
 
Makes me laugh how even back then you weren't allowed to criticise. Even SAF has admitted selling Stam was a mistake I think, yet there were people on here swearing blind that Silvestre was a good replacement long term
 
Stam: Sir Alex Ferguson asked me to leave Manchester United at a petrol station


The former defender claims that the Old Trafford manager met him after a spat over the Dutchman's autobiography to confirm his sale to Lazio at an unusual location

Former Manchester United defender Jaap Stam has revealed that Sir Alex Ferguson rushed to meet him at a petrol station to confirm the Dutchman's sale to Lazio after a spat over his autobiography.

Stam joined United for €17 million in 1998 but was sold to the Serie A side in 2001 after alleging that the Scot approached him illegally while he was still a PSV player in his autobiography, Head to Head.

And the Red Devils boss dashed to the defender to inform him that he was to be sold, asking him if he would agree to a swift move to Italy - with which Stam went through.

"I soon realised the club wanted to get rid of me. They also needed the money. Very soon the book became an issue again. It led to a conflict between me and the manager," he told the Sunday Mirror.

"One morning I told him what I thought and left the training ground on the spot. On the way home I received a phone call in my car from Fergie's *secretary. She said that he wanted to speak to me. He came on the phone straightaway.

"Ferguson said: 'Where are you?' "I said: 'Close to my house, at a petrol *station.' Ferguson said: 'Wait there!' He jumped in his car and came straight to me.

"At the petrol station he parked his car and got in
 with me. He told me that I had to be transferred. Then he said: 'Will you please move to Lazio quickly?'

"I agreed to do it. Right there and then. One quick *conversation in my car at a petrol station in Manchester was enough for me to leave that big club. When I think about it now, and I have never talked about it before, I find it unbelievable I let that, as a player, happen to me."

Despite the manner in which events unfolded at Manchester United, Stam is keen to return to England as a manager, adding: "I am getting ready to become a manager and preparing for my Uefa pro *licence course. More than *anything I want to go and coach in England."


http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3941...-ferguson-asked-me-to-leave-manchester-united
 
He seems to tell this - or some version of it - every year or so.
 
evil_geko said:
Stam: Sir Alex Ferguson asked me to leave Manchester United at a petrol station


The former defender claims that the Old Trafford manager met him after a spat over the Dutchman's autobiography to confirm his sale to Lazio at an unusual location

Former Manchester United defender Jaap Stam has revealed that Sir Alex Ferguson rushed to meet him at a petrol station to confirm the Dutchman's sale to Lazio after a spat over his autobiography.

Stam joined United for €17 million in 1998 but was sold to the Serie A side in 2001 after alleging that the Scot approached him illegally while he was still a PSV player in his autobiography, Head to Head.

And the Red Devils boss dashed to the defender to inform him that he was to be sold, asking him if he would agree to a swift move to Italy - with which Stam went through.

"I soon realised the club wanted to get rid of me. They also needed the money. Very soon the book became an issue again. It led to a conflict between me and the manager," he told the Sunday Mirror.

"One morning I told him what I thought and left the training ground on the spot. On the way home I received a phone call in my car from Fergie's *secretary. She said that he wanted to speak to me. He came on the phone straightaway.

"Ferguson said: 'Where are you?' "I said: 'Close to my house, at a petrol *station.' Ferguson said: 'Wait there!' He jumped in his car and came straight to me.

"At the petrol station he parked his car and got in
 with me. He told me that I had to be transferred. Then he said: 'Will you please move to Lazio quickly?'

"I agreed to do it. Right there and then. One quick *conversation in my car at a petrol station in Manchester was enough for me to leave that big club. When I think about it now, and I have never talked about it before, I find it unbelievable I let that, as a player, happen to me."

Despite the manner in which events unfolded at Manchester United, Stam is keen to return to England as a manager, adding: "I am getting ready to become a manager and preparing for my Uefa pro *licence course. More than *anything I want to go and coach in England."


http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3941...-ferguson-asked-me-to-leave-manchester-united
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Were we skint then too...also can't picture Fergie saying will "you please move.."
 
Surely one of Fergie's few howlers over the years. A Stam-Rio partnership would have been brilliant for about five years at least.
 
Stam took a few years suffering with injuries from tendon problems before he finally found his form again. Kind of similar to the Vidic situation now. So yes when he'd have recovered it would have been fantastic but he whilst he was injured we'd have still had to cover for life without him.
 
De Selby said:
True.

They're a bit like Principal Skinner's Vietnam flashbacks.
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It's weird because everyone, including Fergie, accepts it was a mistake. So basically he's just saying "Hey! Remember that time I was hard done by?"
 
gambit28 said:
Stam took a few years suffering with injuries from tendon problems before he finally found his form again. Kind of similar to the Vidic situation now. So yes when he'd have recovered it would have been fantastic but he whilst he was injured we'd have still had to cover for life without him.
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The Nandralone scandal may have had something to do with him leaving. Had he stayed, he would have been ideal until Vidic arrived in 05/06.
 
gambit28 said:
Stam took a few years suffering with injuries from tendon problems before he finally found his form again. Kind of similar to the Vidic situation now. So yes when he'd have recovered it would have been fantastic but he whilst he was injured we'd have still had to cover for life without him.
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Remember a bit of a lull, but by 2002 at Lazio he was back to near his best IMO.
 
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