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Berbaclass said:
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Would be a very good signing actually. The striker market is quite dull and there aren't lot of options available. Would rather try this guy than the likes of Darwin for 100m.

Very hardworking, physically imposing, great in air and can hold the ball well. Has a decent finishing too.
 
Thomas Frank has really got under some of you guy's skin hasn't he ;)

Anyway all Brentford players have a price and if you were genuinely interested and offered £50m say we wouldn't stand in his way - part of the sell to getting in players like him in the first place is that if we get what we see as value for them we won't stand in their way.
 
Good player but not good enough for a side with serious aspirations.

The fact he was twerking for Liverpool and saying he'd join them and happily be a bench player earlier on this season doesn't exactly help either.
 
Berbaclass said:
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This is where the Muppet King takes over the thread! :lol:

First of all, before we show any interest, before we put any bid in, before we agree terms with the club........can we ask this mother plucker if he actually wants to join us or is his dream club Brentford? Lets check if he's actually owed any money too while we're at it ffs!
 
::sonny:: said:
He is good, a bit like Zaha
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Its funny you say that because he actually reminds me of Saha, though not as quick.

I think Toney's lack of pace or acceleration should I say is what holds him back from being able to play at a top 6 club.
 
El Jefe said:
Its funny you say that because he actually reminds me of Saha, though not as quick.

I think Toney's lack of pace or acceleration should I say is what holds him back from being able to play at a top 6 club.
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Yeah, Saha as well
 
Chief123 said:
This is where the Muppet King takes over the thread! :lol:

First of all, before we show any interest, before we put any bid in, before we agree terms with the club........can we ask this mother plucker if he actually wants to join us or is his dream club Brentford? Lets check if he's actually owed any money too while we're at it ffs!
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Well he is a Liverpool fan unfortunately :nervous:
 
El Jefe said:
Its funny you say that because he actually reminds me of Saha, though not as quick.

I think Toney's lack of pace or acceleration should I say is what holds him back from being able to play at a top 6 club.
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Yeah nothing like Zaha for me, Saha I can't really remember him bullying defenders like Ivan does. Ivan is a class finisher though and easily the best penalty taker in the league maybe anywhere right now to be honest.
 
Would take him in a heartbeat. Ronaldo aside, I‘d rate him better than any of current Utd strikers.

He seemed to work well with Eriksen.
 
el diablorojo said:
Thomas Frank has really got under some of you guy's skin hasn't he ;)

Anyway all Brentford players have a price and if you were genuinely interested and offered £50m say we wouldn't stand in his way - part of the sell to getting in players like him in the first place is that if we get what we see as value for them we won't stand in their way.
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Quote the posts since the Toney news that you think has got under peoples' skin, because it's been nothing but sensible discussion from what I've seen.
 
Chief123 said:
This is where the Muppet King takes over the thread! :lol:

First of all, before we show any interest, before we put any bid in, before we agree terms with the club........can we ask this mother plucker if he actually wants to join us or is his dream club Brentford? Lets check if he's actually owed any money too while we're at it ffs!
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Maybe Brentford are looking for fecking levers as we speak
 
el diablorojo said:
Yeah nothing like Zaha for me, Saha I can't really remember him bullying defenders like Ivan does. Ivan is a class finisher though and easily the best penalty taker in the league maybe anywhere right now to be honest.
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These feels just a touch hyperbolic maybe?
 
AltiUn said:
Quote the posts since the Toney news that you think has got under peoples' skin, because it's been nothing but sensible discussion from what I've seen.
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Blood Mage said:
Would cost a fortune and he isn't good enough to justify that. Frank has a weird hatred for us so there'd be a huge tax on him, especially after we poached Eriksen on a free.
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hellhunter said:
He doesn't, he's just a weirdo
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There were plenty in the Eriksen thread and after that it was these two that made me think bloody hell calm down lads not in here too.....but too your point yes it's mainly sensible discussion on Toney.
 
Based Adnan said:
Good player but not good enough for a side with serious aspirations.

The fact he was twerking for Liverpool and saying he'd join them and happily be a bench player earlier on this season doesn't exactly help either.
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Certainly not good enough as a starter for a side with title aspirations I would think.

But for a side whose immediate aim is to make the CL places? I think he'd probably be fine. And then when you later bring in a top striker who can actually help you to a title Toney would be a fine back up CF as well. Not like we aren't going to need to sign more than one CF over the next few seasons.

The issue is how much he'd likely cost. Players from PL sides don't tend to come cheap and you'd wonder if there are equivalent options who would cost less in other leagues.
 
I'd much rather him over Antony, even if we do need a RW. He'd slot in well for us, works hard and would finish the chances Sancho and Eriksen create.
 
Whilst it will never happen, Toney would be a really great fit for this United team.

He may not be as technically gifted as some strikers we have currently, he will work hard, run the channels and create space for other players, whilst also chipping in with 10/15 goals a season.
 
el diablorojo said:
Thomas Frank has really got under some of you guy's skin hasn't he ;)

Anyway all Brentford players have a price and if you were genuinely interested and offered £50m say we wouldn't stand in his way - part of the sell to getting in players like him in the first place is that if we get what we see as value for them we won't stand in their way.
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el diablorojo said:
There were plenty in the Eriksen thread and after that it was these two that made me think bloody hell calm down lads not in here too.....but too your point yes it's mainly sensible discussion on Toney.
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I don't think he's got under anyone's skin. Tbh, I'm not sure why it would bother anyone here what the brentford manager says or does. What is clear though is that he comes across as a bit of a nob.
 
el diablorojo said:
How many has he missed? Toney has only missed once and that was back in 2018...
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A cursory google search shows Toney to have the better percentage. He’s scored 21 out of 22, but Kane has taken a lot more pens, and I mean a lot more - 61 pens, scored 53 of them.
 
Chief123 said:
I don't think he's got under anyone's skin. Tbh, I'm not sure why it would bother anyone here what the brentford manager says or does. What is clear though is that he comes across as a bit of a nob.
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But your last sentence belies the first two surely - anyway it's all about opinions let's leave it there.
 
el diablorojo said:
But your last sentence belies the first two surely - anyway it's all about opinions let's leave it there.
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It doesn't though. Someone can come across as a bit of a nob without getting under your skin. I've only ever heard him in interviews a couple of times and thought he just seems like an idiot. Didn't get under my skin, means nothing to me. I moved on.
 
Chief123 said:
It doesn't though. Someone can come across as a bit of a nob without getting under your skin. I've only ever heard him in interviews a couple of times and thought he just seems like an idiot. Didn't get under my skin, means nothing to me. I moved on.
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A nob and an idiot ok :lol:
 
WeePat said:
A cursory google search shows Toney to have the better percentage. He’s scored 21 out of 22, but Kane has taken a lot more pens, and I mean a lot more - 61 pens, scored 53 of them.
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Toney on 23 out of 24 - but yeah Kane has taken a shedload more obviously although I would honestly want Toney taking a penalty to win an important game over Kane, his technique is something else.
 
Chief123 said:
Bruno scored 32 penalties in a row (some for utd and the rest for his previous club(s)).
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Yeah a brilliant record he had no doubt about it but then Ronaldo turned up and he lost it for some reason. I would take Toney over Bruno on current form.
 
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Chief123 said:
Bruno scored more than 17 in a row when he joined Utd.
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He seems to have gone to shit with pens. Ever since he took the one against Villa ahead of Ronnie and lost us a point (if I recall) he's been shaky as feck, including in clear cut opportunities (clearly visible during the xG spell of Rangnick when the players squandered numerous chances every match).
 
el diablorojo said:
There were plenty in the Eriksen thread and after that it was these two that made me think bloody hell calm down lads not in here too.....but too your point yes it's mainly sensible discussion on Toney.
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Come on mate, I called him a weirdo. Purely based on his reaction to his comments after our game
 
Raees said:
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I watched the video and you said he isn’t capable of playing for the top teams like Liverpool and City - but could see him playing at Chelsea or Athletico.

What does that mean? Is Chelsea not a top team and could he play for us?
 
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