Eh? It’s a zero tolerance strict liability offence for all people involved in football to not bet. They need this wide reaching authority to make sure it doesn’t happen. Or, when it does, they’re able to take action accordingly.Holly shit, how is that legal?
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I’m sure that legally players could refuse. The FA could in turn refuse to register them to play.Holly shit, how is that legal?
Ehm, right on privacy? Fa is their employer. Not police. Does your employer have access to your accounts and phone and shit? And if they ask you, would you give them?Why wouldn’t it be legal
They can ask if they suspect you of fraud, and if you say no they pass it to the police who you can’t say no to. Probably wiser to just hand it over initially.
Part of their contract would state you give full legal power for them to check these type of things.
Do you sign a contract with your employer with procedures and policies in? I’m sorry but you’re way off with this one.
Yeah, but in this case they can't go to police because gambling is not illegal by the law.
If you’re a football player betting on football that you’re privy to insider information on it is. It’s literally fraud.
But it is if you want to play professional football governed by the FA. It’s quite literally on the website link I posted
Of course not. He’ll be suspended from his workplace, because that’s what is stipulated in the contract he signed. Same as anyone else who severely breaches their contract in the workplace.
Edit. Unless he’s actually bet on his own matches and purposely done stuff to effect the outcome. That is likely fraud.
Do you really think you’ve thought of something that his solicitors wouldn’t have thought of? They will get access to his account as he has agreed to the terms and conditions of being a professional footballer in England. He can refuse. But he would be refusing his career away.
I don’t think it necessarily needs to be his own matches. Anything where he’s privy to information that isn’t publicly available is technically fraud.
Taking PED isn't illegal by law. But if player refuse to have their blood sample taken after a match, FA can just ban him to whatever they want to.
Charged with 30 more breaches today...
What's the likely charge for this many violations?
Season over surely?
6-12 month ban if guilty would be my guess, depending on what he actually did.
Classic Ivan Tmoney
Can we consider him as a legitimate transfer target, or is he likely to get a hefty ban sooner rather than later?
In the 2 games since the restart, he's got 2 goals and an assist. This season, he's only behind Haaland and Kane in the PL.
In the 2 games since the restart, he's got 2 goals and an assist. This season, he's only behind Haaland and Kane in the PL.
Worth a gamble
I think he may have been badly injured tonight going by some match reports.
I'd rule him out, he's up for 232 counts of betting, he's getting a lengthy ban.
Watched them again today. He was probably the best player on the pitch, though he looked a bit clumsy at times. He's not quite as technically sharp as you'd like for a starting #9 for a team trying to win the biggest trophies. Good assist with a Kane type chipped ball over the top, works really hard defensively to break up plays involving the DM on the other team and start counter attacks. Threat from set pieces and unselfish. Smarter than his teammates except for the always solid Norgaard.
If his suspension is done by the summer (say he gets 10 games) then I'd say this is still the logical backup plan for us if we can't get a plan A striker.
The best case for him is that he'd make sense when we're counter-attacking more, due to his work rate and aerial ability, and he'd up also make sense when we're pegging teams back since he's an aerial threat. And in the in-between games, Martial can be first choice. Not a ton of strikers you'd feel better about having annoy top teams or flat track bully bottom teams, apart from Mitrovic (too expensive, might lose pace he can't afford to soon), though there are higher upside guys out there who will improve as much as Toney has in his mid 20s. But weirdly, buying him would be a signal of confidence in Martial, who I think would still start a lot when we're not facing 10 men behind the ball or 10 men in our half.
If his suspension is done by the summer (say he gets 10 games) then I'd say this is still the logical backup plan for us if we can't get a plan A striker.
The best case for him is that he'd make sense when we're counter-attacking more, due to his work rate and aerial ability, and he'd up also make sense when we're pegging teams back since he's an aerial threat. And in the in-between games, Martial can be first choice. Not a ton of strikers you'd feel better about having annoy top teams or flat track bully bottom teams, apart from Mitrovic (too expensive, might lose pace he can't afford to soon), though there are higher upside guys out there who will improve as much as Toney has in his mid 20s. But weirdly, buying him would be a signal of confidence in Martial, who I think would still start a lot when we're not facing 10 men behind the ball or 10 men in our half.
What's the hold up with it ? Seems very fishy.
There's no hold up, he was given until the 4th of January to respond.
The penalty king. Surely he's on the move in the summer if the betting stuff is dropped?
We could do much much worse
I think he would be great for a Ten Hag side.
Probably on the move even if it’s not.
The ban will be no longer than 6 months provided he hasn’t bet on games he’s been involved in (and there’s been no suggestion that this is the case).
Must be annoying for all these clubs that he isn't banned yet.
Apart from Liverpool, who were too shite for him being missing to even matter.
Hopefully by the time we play them in February...
True! At least they took advantage of there being no Trossard today though. Oh wait...Apart from Liverpool, who were too shite for him being missing to even matter.
Perfect
Sounds like a 0-0 shitfestAnd they've got Chelsea without Felix coming up. No worries there.