Stop fooling yourself. They murdered four children playing football on a beach. Captured on film.
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Stop fooling yourself. They murdered four children playing football on a beach. Captured on film.
Wow.
Hamas uses innocents as human shields. Plenty of proof out there to prove this is happening. This is why the death count is so ridiculously high not because of wanton Israeli barbarity like you and everyone else seems to think.
However isolated acts of barbarity, such as the attack on the children on the beach at Gaza for instance, are 100% wrong and the individuals responsible should be brought to justice. Every army in the world has it's fair share of maniacs unfortunately and no, I'm not condoning Israel's conduct but to paint Israel and it's army on a par with the worst atrocity perpetrators in human history is wrong.
Israelis will decide for themselves who leads them (a right not offered to Gazans by the "democratically elected" Hamas), and if they disagree what their government does, they vote them out. What they do want is peace and quiet to live their lives, without rockets fired into their country for years on end. I'm pretty sure the same applies to Palestinians as well.
In reference to your blogpost earlier Kaos I feel where any politicians are concerned, they ALL have dirty hands in one way or another, and Israeli politicians are no exception. The overriding difference between them and Hamas, however - is that Israeli politicians recognise their first duty is to protect their citizens, not use them as cannon fodder.
UNRWA Condemns Placement of Rockets, for a Second Time, in One of Its Schools
Today, in the course of the regular inspection of its premises, UNRWA discovered rockets hidden in a vacant school in the Gaza Strip. As soon as the rockets were discovered, UNRWA staff were withdrawn from the premises, and so we are unable to confirm the precise number of rockets. The school is situated between two other UNRWA schools that currently each accommodate 1,500 internally displaced persons.
UNRWA strongly and unequivocally condemns the group or groups responsible for this flagrant violation of the inviolability of its premises under international law.
The Agency immediately informed the relevant parties and is pursuing all possible measures for the removal of the objects in order to preserve the safety and security of the school. UNRWA will launch a comprehensive investigation into the circumstances surrounding this incident.
http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press...placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools
Today, in the course of the regular inspection of its premises, UNRWA discovered rockets hidden in a vacant school in the Gaza Strip. As soon as the rockets were discovered, UNRWA staff were withdrawn from the premises, and so we are unable to confirm the precise number of rockets. The school is situated between two other UNRWA schools that currently each accommodate 1,500 internally displaced persons.
UNRWA strongly and unequivocally condemns the group or groups responsible for this flagrant violation of the inviolability of its premises under international law.
The Agency immediately informed the relevant parties and is pursuing all possible measures for the removal of the objects in order to preserve the safety and security of the school. UNRWA will launch a comprehensive investigation into the circumstances surrounding this incident.
http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press...placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools
Hundreds of Jewish anti-Semites in Tel Aviv
Are you familiar with peace protests in what you call Palestine?
Stop fooling yourself. They murdered four children playing football on a beach. Captured on film.
Mistakes are not war crimes.
It wasn't a mistake.
Yeah why don't they store their rockets on their military bases?
So they deliberately targeted these kids out of folly and the need for fun then? Big claim you're making there without any concrete proof.
Meaning?
That's an extremely dangerous precedence don't you think? It allows Israel to just whitewash and justify bombing almost anything with the tenuous caveat of claims that it was harbouring rockets/militants, especially since most the time these claims can't be validated.
Both Hamas and Israel uses Palestinians as human shields, they're stuck in the crossfire.
The attack on beach was not an isolated incident - factor in the attacks on hospitals, disabled persons shelters, cafes and schools and suddenly you're left with a lot of 'isolated' incidents.
The elections in Gaza were open and Hamas were legitimately elected. It was Bush and Rice's plot to get them overthrown following this democratic process that lead to the bitter civil war with Fatah, leaving Hamas stronger than ever.
Israel respect their dead more than all the Arab nations put together, I'll concede that.
A basic optical device would show that they were only children. Are we to believe that the IDF doesn't have or know how to use the most basic of army equipment?
Still the IDF is full of cowards. We all know that. They used young children as human shields to check for bombs.
I'm sure the legal advice the IDF gets means that evidence for use of those civilian installations by combatants would be available if Israelis are charged by international courts.
There's evidence for rocket storage and firing from schools, use of ambulances by combatants and the use of local population as human shields.
Israel first and foremost respects life more than its Arab enemies.
Using this logic, the IDF deliberately kills its own soldiers in friendly-fire incidents.
Good read.
Yep. Its exactly the same. Grown men carrying guns look exactly the same as children playing football on a beach in daylight.
You're just lying to yourself mate.
There'd be no need since the United States would see to it that Israel remains untouchable. They know this and hence aren't afraid of the international community calling its bluff.
Evidence from which source? The IDF? Like I said the IDF can hit any highly populated structure and dignify it with the alleged claim that it harbours something nasty.
As Holy said a second ago, What is Israel meant to do if Hamas is firing rockets from these places on purpose, to inflate the death counts in order to damage Israel's reputation? The Hamas leadership has practically come out and ordered it!
I have massive doubts about the legitimacy of the said elections but that's just my opinion.
That's absolutely right. If you exclude the Israeli politicians from the mix you will find that most Israelis want peace, could you say the same for most Palestinians?
There in black and white, glad the EU recognises this
The whole notion of the Palestinian movement being so downtrodden and hard done to is getting rather boring now. Until they desire peace more than they desire the annihilation of Israel and the Jews then this will never end.
Our soldiers don't see the battlefield on Sky News.
Not if it has footage of rockets being launched from the building before it is struck.
Ye, but you do. Yet your still deluded
Many of these locations did not harbour any Hamas militants nor did rocket fire source from them. Houses which were completely clean were destroyed.
Why do you doubt the legitimacy of the election? Do you think Hamas fixed the election? That would be pretty hard to do considering the most the de facto power resides with Fatah who incidentally are on better terms with Israel. I mean heck, the US channelled $2million to the Fatah electoral campaign in the weeks before the elections as a last ditch, desperate attempt to get them to win it.
Most Israelis want peace and most Palestinians want justice. Peace for Israel doesn't necessarily mean justice (or even peace for that matter) for the Palestinians. Until there is justice, there can't be peace.
So they fired without checking. Yet they are one of the most advanced arms in the world.
Footage of rockets being fired from a building - not exactly conclusive is it?
The difference between living in Gaza and Israel is not even comparable. Let's not pull that card please. Surely not even you can be that blind.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/22/w...lian-toll-climbs-in-israeli-strikes.html?_r=0
So the IDF bombed a building were civilians were told to go.
He honestly sounds like a RAWK poster defending Suarez.
Fearless is good fun really, reminds me of my batshit insane, racist late aunt.
Justice. Will that include some kind of compensation to my Iraqi grandparents who lost everything in 48?
The treatment of Jews in Arab countries is deplorable, back in 48 and now (if any remain). I would love nothing more than to see Iraq's Jewish community restored but unfortunately most of them have moved on and I don't see them wanting to return (can't blame them really).
There's still hope to salvage a Palestine (and don't give me your customary "Jordan!" answer
)Justice in the eyes of the Palestinians means the elimination of the Jewish state. You are not honest when you ignore this fact in your two-line summary.
What would be more conclusive than that?