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Guessing Newbie is past tense and not because of promotion.
Yeah It definitely seems like the same person. He is a newbie Israeli.
The FT article doesn't go deeper into it unfortunately.
Don't shoot the messenger, either reply to the questions or ignore the post altogether.
Follow the guidelines. Do not post pictures of dead people and don't be so abrasive towards other users. You insist in not following the guidelines of the thread. The mods have been lenient with you but you keep pushing the boundaries. Plenty of people have been complaining here and in the scout thread about your behavior. Respect the guidelines please.
Well said. I'd argue that it's very important to distinguish whether we are talking about what's happening currently from a legal or a moral/ethical perspective. Words like "genocide" or "war crime" have a very specific meaning in international law, which not always matches how these terms are used in everyday language.
I am currently taking a class in University on the law of armed conflict, so we talk a lot about things like Targeting Law and things like that. The big take-away for me so far has been that it seems pretty much impossible to tell whether war crimes (in a legal sense) are being committed in an ongoing conflict. You'd need access to a lot intelligence/classified information in order to properly determine the military importance of an object.
Now, this obviously does not mean that someone cannot find it morally reprehensible to target a hospital. But such an attack does not necessarily have to be in conflict with international law.
I think we could avoid a lot confusion and talking past one another in this thread and in society in general if people make it clear from what position they are arguing and using the correct terminology.
The forum has a newbie section for a reason, we don't need even more shite dog whistles being posted in here than what the full members can currently provide.
The answer is probably not to look at Europe for advice. Europe does things without planning, panics, swings right, panics, swings left, panics, swings right and so on.
Doesn't need to be the EU, the whole continent is the same. Just look at recent voting patterns. Driven by a combination of guilt for the past and the very same superiority that lead to the whole taking over everything. It's a uniquely European thing.
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Don't post for a cretin like that. There's obviously a very good reason he's a newbie. You should know better than to perpetuate the great replacement theory.
They obviously were, it's insane the lengths that some people will go to justify Israel's actions.
In previous rounds of conflict in Gaza, Hamas have released online tributes to their martyrs in the weeks following the end of hostilities.
Here is an absolutely masterful takedown of some of Israel's favourite talking points by Norman Finkelstein. Well worth a watch. Apologies if someone has already posted this in this absolute beast of a thread.
He's on Piers Morgan tonight. I wonder if Piers will let him talk for more than 15 seconds without interrupting.
I expected the article to not mention that palestinians are mainly judged by military courts but it is mentioned. People tend to miss or ignore that, palestinians are largely ruled by IDF.
Never thought I’d see Norman referencing Susan Boyle
It changes nothing.
Cute maths that. Anyone not a woman or child is a Hamas fighter
These are questions not worth answering, its borderline trolling.
I do see your point mate. I would contend that is a remarkably high bar in the age of internet. What news is coming out is mostly through peoples phones - there was a post from John Hopkins showing the collapse in IP connectivity over the last few weeks. Think the alarm bells on an impending genocide by the UN, amnesty and MSF are well merited
That wasn't a dig at you because I've enjoyed and agreed with your posts throughout (so apologies as reading it back it is brash), but I'd say to be so dismissive of the human element and suffering can only mean you're ignorant or in denial (the royal you). You're obviously not ignorant. On your latter point... This thread is 571 pages long, with the same churn of arguments. We're week 6? 7? of this current round of hostilities, and the same will just recirculate. No one participating here is changing their mind, agree on that.
But this thread is being viewed by many more that aren't au fait with Palestine, that aren't aware of the history, or the injustice, where a grieving father is enough to prompt someone to read up and educate themselves. In fact, it's what worked on me many years ago. This conflict I've followed for most of my adult life and if I can make even a 1% difference then I'm happy with that.
The rules say don't post gratuitous - the video isn't gratuitous at all.
What boundaries have I pushed? What are they complaining about? We had @gfactor86 literally replying to posters with 'feck you' and saying Palestine isn't a real place. What are you doing about that?
Douglas Murray: lies lies lies
Piers: "Would you debate Norman Finkelstein?"
Murray: "God no, are you crazy?!?!?"
Piers: "Would you debate Norman Finkelstein?"
Murray: "God no, are you crazy?!?!?"
"Raping, plundering, and enslave the population were fairly common, ask any population in the world, at some point they came "war crimes" and a cardinal sin. when? why?"
Is called progress, turd
Quite a charge questions. I am not Muslim but I'll bite anyway:
1) Irrelevant. Israel is there and will stay. A most appropriate and possible question is if Palestine has the right to exist, and the Israel government, voted by a majority of israelians seems to say, no
2) Irrelevant. Whataboutism of the biggest of the magnitud. If muslims in the forum say no, it will had nothing to do with the Israel-Palestine discussion. If muslims in the forum say yes, it will had nothing to do with the Israel discussion and would only be used as an entrance disingenuous point. Not to speak that the majority of muslim majority population countries do not follow the sharia law in its strict form. Why europe reaching this point should be in the minority?
Tell that newbie to feck off. Honestly, the first point is redundant. Reminds me of the whole "corporation's are people" crap from the Tea Party.
Just a dumb, closed loop statement solely designed to warrant and allow Israel's crimes to stay unjudged.
The second is a scare tactic that Tommy Robinson would be proud off.
That made me laugh. He got a warning and some points for that post.
Piers Morgan thinks he is very convincing when he says he’s neutral but you can see the slimebag where he stands in all of this. Has zero interest before October 7th. Has zero interest in Palestinian suffering and has zero interest in atrocities committed in the West Bank. All his interviews revolve around two questions.
But credit to the slimebag for bringing as many people as he could for the interviews from all sides.
But credit to the slimebag for bringing as many people as he could for the interviews from all sides.
Ah - you've let yourself down here.
Good post.
Yeah I'd have to agree there. Many of my colleagues that didn't know a thing about the Palestine situation pre October 7th now see things in a different light. Instead of lying the blame solely on Hamas
Murray was so glad 9/11 happened because he could craft out a 20 year career peddling Islamophobia and have a justification for it.
A horrible, pernicious scrote.
He's chasing clicks and likes and retweets of his guests with soundbites. A totally disingenuous human being.
I know and I feel dirty for giving any credit to the cnut for that knowing how dishonest he is.