They don't want "security", it's just a (pretty old now) card they play to dominate the region and bully the neighbouring countries.
ISIS in Iraq and Syria
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You don't think it might be at least partly a response to the world's and this forum''s own obsession with every little thing that happens in Israel?
Yep, they've been bombing Diyala with their American F4 Phantom Jets
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...to-iraqi-airspace-for-first-time-9899487.html
Bad move, isn't it? The "never attacked neighbouring states" argument goes out the window.
What a lovely bunch. I'd love to be invited to Iftar with these lot.
Well put, albeit from a sofa 1000s of kilometers away.
Although we all want ISIS wiped out this conflict should not go beyond. I fear this will massively escalate into a Shia/Sunni conflict in the region now with Iran openly in the mix. Something I had thought would happen since the second Iraq invasion.Yep, they've been bombing Diyala with their American F4 Phantom Jets
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...to-iraqi-airspace-for-first-time-9899487.html
They didn't "attack" neighbouring countries. They're coordinating those strikes with the Iraqi government just like the airstrikes of the coalition forces.Bad move, isn't it? The "never attacked neighbouring states" argument goes out the window.
Try harder.
Bad move, isn't it? The "never attacked neighbouring states" argument goes out the window.
They're not attacking the state of Iraq, they're launching a strike against an international terrorist group with the Iraqi government's blessing.
Domination is pointless without peace of mind. I have encountered more serenity in homeless people sleeping on footpaths.
I think it just has to do with it being closer to the Iranian border than the main targets for the airstrikes of the Iraqi and coalition forces which is why there were asked to help. I don't expect Iranian planes to take part in the assault on Tikrit, Anbar or Mosul.
The Iraqi minister of defense with whom they're coordinating the attacks is a Sunni by the way.
Iran has everyone reason to be involved. They're neighbouring this mess so this serves as a serious security concern to them, not to mention how the Iraqi army is ill equipped to deal with this cluster on its own so its going to need help from its more capable neighbour. At least the Iranians are actually pulling their weight, the Gulf Arab states in this so called 'coalition' only seem interested in targeting Syrian troops whereas the Turks are going as far as letting ISIS launch attacks from their border.
As for exacerbating sectarian tensions, there's a reason the Iraqi government kept Iranian involvement a secret, nevertheless I think the immediate concern is to rid the country of its ISIS infestation first.
Bad move, isn't it? The "never attacked neighbouring states" argument goes out the window.
They're not attacking a "state". Their record stays intact.
I'm afraid Sultan's right, Danny. Pretty hard blaming them though, considering the rough neibourhood.
You chose that neighbourhood.
Get your history right. Europe felt obliged to give them a home.
Of course, and Hitler is a well-known Palestinian.
Old texts suggest Moses was quite bright, but little did he know what would happen a couple of millenia later...
I recognise Palestine as a state.That applies to Israel too
I'm hoping Iranian jets just target ISIS, and not populated areas such as schools and hospitals.
You're getting off topic here. Can't help talking about "them"? Try the relevant threads, mod.
You started the link. It's about time I gave you a tagline.
I recognise Palestine as a state.
I'm hoping Iranian jets just target ISIS, and not populated areas such as schools and hospitals.
Which one?
Do the Iranians have those precision weapons the Yanks use to make sure only terrorists are killed when densely populated areas are "rocked"?
I was talking about counter-terrorism measures, and not Israel or "them".
What took you so long?
My feet and brain are still cold from watching United in freezing Manchester last night.
Wasn't half as challenging watching on a sofa 1000s of kilometers away.
No. However, I'm sure or hope Iranians have more regards for human life than some I can mention.
You have already mentioned "them". Nevertheless, hope could be torturous (no pun intended) so I'll help you out on that one. http://iranhr.net/
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Kobane
DNA tests (according to Lebanese sources) done on Saja Al-Duleimi (the woman that was caught on the Lebanese border) and the 3 children that were traveling with her did prove that she is an ex-wife of Al-Baghdadi, and she's the same woman identified by the Iraqi intelligence (whose brother is detained in Baghdad for terrorist activities in Basra, sister is detained in Kurdistan after failing to execute a suicide attack in Erbil, and her father is a leader in Al-Nusra Front in Syria), although she isn't one of Al-Baghdadi's current (3?) wives.
The Lebanese authorities explained that she was married three times. The first husband was a member of Saddam's regime and she had two sons from him, and then married Al-Baghdadi for a brief period (for 3 months about 6 years ago) and had a daughter from him (which was reportedly proved by DNA), and now she's married to a Palestinian man and she's pregnant from him.
Worth mentioning is that she was a part of the exchange that freed the Ma'loula nuns months ago, and it seems that more information about her surfaced after her release in that exchange (she was already detained for terrorist activities but her relationship to Al-Baghdadi wasn't known at the time).
Besides Saja Al-Duleimi, the Lebanese forces also caught the wife of another senior Al-Nusra leader (his name is Anas Sharkas and is also known as Abu Ali Al-Shishani), but they didn't give much information about her apart from her name being Alaa.
The Lebanese authorities explained that she was married three times. The first husband was a member of Saddam's regime and she had two sons from him, and then married Al-Baghdadi for a brief period (for 3 months about 6 years ago) and had a daughter from him (which was reportedly proved by DNA), and now she's married to a Palestinian man and she's pregnant from him.
Worth mentioning is that she was a part of the exchange that freed the Ma'loula nuns months ago, and it seems that more information about her surfaced after her release in that exchange (she was already detained for terrorist activities but her relationship to Al-Baghdadi wasn't known at the time).
Besides Saja Al-Duleimi, the Lebanese forces also caught the wife of another senior Al-Nusra leader (his name is Anas Sharkas and is also known as Abu Ali Al-Shishani), but they didn't give much information about her apart from her name being Alaa.
She's hardly gonna fetch an awful lot on the ISIS market considering this history.
Wrong guns to shoot targets (sniper style) my 30.06 would be more effective
YPG released a video where they surrounded ISIS fighters and killed them all, in Kobane. It's graphic though so I won't post it here. PM me if you want a link.
You mean like coldblooded murder?
PM pls.
Could we change the title of the thread, by any chance?
No you only see the corpses. They don't do that stuff.
It's in the Eastern Botan neighbourhood, the rats were mostly of Chechen or Azeri descent.
to what ? Suli's hourly Kobane updates ?