ISIS in Iraq and Syria

They're finished. This was just some petty scorched earth exit.

Absolute cnuts, especially the Iraqis who volunteered to their ranks and helped destroy remnants of their country's illustrous history.
 
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They're finished. This was just some petty scored earth exit.

Absolute cnuts, especially the Iraqis who volunteered to their ranks and helped destroy remnants of their country's illustrous history.

Obviously human life is the most important thing, but the damage these motherfcukers have done to historical sites be it in Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria is heartbreaking.

Things that were thousands of years old...that outlived natural disasters, empires...yet, these two bit assholes...laid them to waste :(
 
They've been killing the very people who fill up the places of worship in their thousands for years and years.

Human life >>>> Mosque or Minaret.

So, this isn't that shocking. Mind you I read somewhere they blamed the US for the destruction.
well the Muslims they kill they consider them heretical so they have their twisted justification for it, I just can't fathom any justification they would have to destroy a mosque, esp one they have overtaken and had been using.

Not only that they are destroying muslim heritage.
 
:drool:

Looks like a lot of Ramadan prayers got answered

Unfortunately the prospect of keeping the Caliphate defeated seems to rest on the ability of the interested powers to establish a just society between Aleppo and Baghdad. Given it seems the post-ISIS war for Syria is about to kick off in earnest, I wouldn't rule out the al-Baghdadi gang just yet.
 
Former US Ambassador to Syria with his take on what's to come. Surprisingly honest.

http://www.newsweek.com/us-military-kurds-lose-iran-syria-former-ambassador-627395

The Syrian government and its allies, including Iran, will eventually overcome U.S. efforts to secure influence in the nation, and Kurdish fighters may pay for siding with President Donald Trump and his administration, according to a former U.S. ambassador to Syria.

Robert Ford, who served as envoy to Syria under former President Barack Obama from 2011 through 2014, said during an interview Monday with the London-based Arabic-language newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat that "Obama did not leave the Trump administration many options to achieve its goal" of defeating the Islamic State militant group (ISIS) and curbing Iran's foothold in the region. While Iran and Russia back Syrian President Bashar al-Assad against various insurgents and jihadists trying to topple him, the U.S. supports an irregular coalition, the Syrian Democratic Forces, made up mostly of Kurds, but including other ethnic minorities and Arabs. Despite the group's recent successes in storming ISIS's de facto capital of Raqqa, Ford said "the game was finished" for U.S. plans to overthrow Assad or compete with Iran's success in the country.

"The Iranian position will advance," Ford said, offering his prediction for what the battle lines may look like in the next few years: Assad retaining his stronghold in the west, and Iran bolstering pro-government forces that he predicted would ultimately force a U.S. withdrawal from eastern Syria—much like the Iran-backed, Shiite Muslim militant group Hezbollah managed to do in Lebanon in the 1980s.

"Assad won, I mean he's the victor, or he thinks so," Ford told the newspaper, suggesting that the Syrian leader was unlikely to face any charges stemming from war crime accusations by the West. "Maybe in 10 years, he will retake the entire country."

Ford spoke candidly about what he believed were serious errors made by Washington at the beginning of the crisis in Syria, in 2011. He recalled being deeply opposed to Obama and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's decision to publicly call for Assad's removal from power during a period of mass demonstrations against the Syrian government. He said he knew that U.S. approval for the political opposition would encourage certain elements to take up arms against the government, expecting the U.S. military to stage an Iraq-style intervention to aid them—which he did not believe the U.S. would carry out.

When the opposition, which also received support from Turkey and Gulf Arab states such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar, did launch a large-scale insurgency against the state, the CIA ultimately decided to train and equip certain rebel groups. After this policy came to light, Ford said in 2014 that the U.S. was "behind the curve," as Russia and Iran were devoting extensive resources to defending Assad, much more than the U.S. was willing to devote to the insurgents, Many of the insurgents were later overtaken or absorbed by more radical Sunni Muslim militant moves such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

As jihadists climbed the ranks among Syrian rebels, the U.S. shifted the focus of its policy toward eradicating ISIS and began backing another faction, the Syrian Democratic Forces. Many Kurds were initially supportive of the uprising against Assad, hoping it would give them an opportunity to establish an autonomous Kurdish area in northern Syria, much like Iraqi Kurdistan. The mostly Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces, however, found themselves clashing with both ISIS and Syrian rebel groups backed by Turkey, which has long sought to quell Kurdish nationalism in the region.

The Syrian Democratic Forces were mostly neutral in the battle between pro- and anti-Syrian government forces, but tensions have risen between the U.S. and pro-Syrian government forces that now share extensive front lines since ISIS's collapse on multiple fronts. Recent clashes between the Syrian army and the Syrian Democratic Forces were followed by the U.S.'s unprecedented decision to shoot down a Syrian military jet it claimed was operating too close to positions held by the Syrian Democratic Forces. Siding with the U.S,, however, will turn out to be a grave mistake for the Kurds, according to Ford. He said U.S. support for Kurds would disappear, as it did in post-invasion Iraq, after ISIS was defeated in Raqqa and in other areas.

"[The U.S.] will not defend the Kurds against Assad's forces," the former envoy said. "What we're doing with the Kurds is not only politically stupid, but immoral."
 
Former US Ambassador to Syria with his take on what's to come. Surprisingly honest.

http://www.newsweek.com/us-military-kurds-lose-iran-syria-former-ambassador-627395

The Syrian government and its allies, including Iran, will eventually overcome U.S. efforts to secure influence in the nation, and Kurdish fighters may pay for siding with President Donald Trump and his administration, according to a former U.S. ambassador to Syria.

Robert Ford, who served as envoy to Syria under former President Barack Obama from 2011 through 2014, said during an interview Monday with the London-based Arabic-language newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat that "Obama did not leave the Trump administration many options to achieve its goal" of defeating the Islamic State militant group (ISIS) and curbing Iran's foothold in the region. While Iran and Russia back Syrian President Bashar al-Assad against various insurgents and jihadists trying to topple him, the U.S. supports an irregular coalition, the Syrian Democratic Forces, made up mostly of Kurds, but including other ethnic minorities and Arabs. Despite the group's recent successes in storming ISIS's de facto capital of Raqqa, Ford said "the game was finished" for U.S. plans to overthrow Assad or compete with Iran's success in the country.

"The Iranian position will advance," Ford said, offering his prediction for what the battle lines may look like in the next few years: Assad retaining his stronghold in the west, and Iran bolstering pro-government forces that he predicted would ultimately force a U.S. withdrawal from eastern Syria—much like the Iran-backed, Shiite Muslim militant group Hezbollah managed to do in Lebanon in the 1980s.

"Assad won, I mean he's the victor, or he thinks so," Ford told the newspaper, suggesting that the Syrian leader was unlikely to face any charges stemming from war crime accusations by the West. "Maybe in 10 years, he will retake the entire country."

Ford spoke candidly about what he believed were serious errors made by Washington at the beginning of the crisis in Syria, in 2011. He recalled being deeply opposed to Obama and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's decision to publicly call for Assad's removal from power during a period of mass demonstrations against the Syrian government. He said he knew that U.S. approval for the political opposition would encourage certain elements to take up arms against the government, expecting the U.S. military to stage an Iraq-style intervention to aid them—which he did not believe the U.S. would carry out.

When the opposition, which also received support from Turkey and Gulf Arab states such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar, did launch a large-scale insurgency against the state, the CIA ultimately decided to train and equip certain rebel groups. After this policy came to light, Ford said in 2014 that the U.S. was "behind the curve," as Russia and Iran were devoting extensive resources to defending Assad, much more than the U.S. was willing to devote to the insurgents, Many of the insurgents were later overtaken or absorbed by more radical Sunni Muslim militant moves such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

As jihadists climbed the ranks among Syrian rebels, the U.S. shifted the focus of its policy toward eradicating ISIS and began backing another faction, the Syrian Democratic Forces. Many Kurds were initially supportive of the uprising against Assad, hoping it would give them an opportunity to establish an autonomous Kurdish area in northern Syria, much like Iraqi Kurdistan. The mostly Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces, however, found themselves clashing with both ISIS and Syrian rebel groups backed by Turkey, which has long sought to quell Kurdish nationalism in the region.

The Syrian Democratic Forces were mostly neutral in the battle between pro- and anti-Syrian government forces, but tensions have risen between the U.S. and pro-Syrian government forces that now share extensive front lines since ISIS's collapse on multiple fronts. Recent clashes between the Syrian army and the Syrian Democratic Forces were followed by the U.S.'s unprecedented decision to shoot down a Syrian military jet it claimed was operating too close to positions held by the Syrian Democratic Forces. Siding with the U.S,, however, will turn out to be a grave mistake for the Kurds, according to Ford. He said U.S. support for Kurds would disappear, as it did in post-invasion Iraq, after ISIS was defeated in Raqqa and in other areas.

"[The U.S.] will not defend the Kurds against Assad's forces," the former envoy said. "What we're doing with the Kurds is not only politically stupid, but immoral."

What a depressing state of affairs this is.
 
A documentary done by Jenan Moussa with the help of three pro-opposition undercover reporters about the life in Idlib, exposes many of the lies perpetuated repeatedly in the past few years.

Interestingly, it turned out only 6% of the checkpoints in Idlib actually belong to those who call themselves "FSA". Six percent. Over 50% are directly under the control of Al-Nusra itself, and over 70% are controlled by Al-Nusra and its subgroups/direct allies (so clearly those 70+% were merely being used as an excuse to target those "6%"...).

Anyway, highly recommend watching this documentary for people who want to know how the reality actually looks like in the "Free democratic Syria".

 
Thread on fate of ISIS wives:

 
A documentary done by Jenan Moussa with the help of three pro-opposition undercover reporters about the life in Idlib, exposes many of the lies perpetuated repeatedly in the past few years.

Interestingly, it turned out only 6% of the checkpoints in Idlib actually belong to those who call themselves "FSA". Six percent. Over 50% are directly under the control of Al-Nusra itself, and over 70% are controlled by Al-Nusra and its subgroups/direct allies (so clearly those 70+% were merely being used as an excuse to target those "6%"...).

Anyway, highly recommend watching this documentary for people who want to know how the reality actually looks like in the "Free democratic Syria".



They will still believe what there own mainstream media shows them.
 
Here we go again....



Assad is winning the war so it's time for the obligatory pointless "regime chemical attack."
Does this still fool people?


So the question is: Who is invading this time...Israel from the Golan or US troops from the Jordan and Iraq?
 
Assad is winning the war so it's time for the obligatory pointless "regime chemical attack."
Does this still fool people?


So the question is: Who is invading this time...Israel from the Golan or US troops from the Jordan and Iraq?

You are right, there has been some time now without negative articles about Russia's involvement in Syria or Assad, so I reckon the next totally random, pointless and totally unlogical chemical attack on civillians by Assad and Russia are coming up.

Watch everyone buy into it as well.
 
http://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2017-06-30/medias-propaganda-war-on-syria-in-full-flow/
jonathan-cook.net
Media’s propaganda war on Syria in full flow
7-9 minutes


If you wish to understand the degree to which a supposedly free western media are constructing a world of half-truths and deceptions to manipulate their audiences, keeping us uninformed and docile, then there could hardly be a better case study than their treatment of Pulitzer prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh.

All of these highly competitive, for-profit, scoop-seeking media outlets separately took identical decisions: first to reject Hersh’s latest investigative report, and then to studiously ignore it once it was published in Germany last Sunday. They have continued to maintain an absolute radio silence on his revelations, even as over the past few days they have given a great deal of attention to two stories on the very issue Hersh’s investigation addresses.

These two stories, given such prominence in the western media, are clearly intended to serve as “spoilers” to his revelations, even though none of these publications have actually informed their readers of his original investigation. We are firmly in looking-glass territory.

So what did Hersh’s investigation reveal? His sources in the US intelligence establishment – people who have helped him break some of the most important stories of the past few decades, from the Mai Lai massacre by American soldiers during the Vietnam war to US abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib in 2004 – told him the official narrative that Syria’s Bashar Assad had dropped deadly sarin gas on the town of Khan Sheikhoun on April 4 was incorrect. Instead, they said, a Syrian plane dropped a bomb on a meeting of jihadi fighters that triggered secondary explosions in a storage depot, releasing a toxic cloud of chemicals that killed civilians nearby.

It is an alternative narrative of these events that one might have assumed would be of intense interest to the media, given that Donald Trump approved a military strike on Syria based on the official narrative. Hersh’s version suggests that Trump acted against the intelligence advice he received from his own officials, in a highly dangerous move that not only grossly violated international law but might have dragged Assad’s main ally, Russia, into the fray. The Syrian arena has the potential to trigger a serious confrontation between the world’s two major nuclear powers.

But, in fact, the western media were supremely uninterested in the story. Hersh, once considered the journalist’s journalist, went hawking his investigation around the US and UK media to no avail. In the end, he could find a home for his revelations only in Germany, in the publication Welt am Sonntag.

There are a couple of possible, even if highly improbable, reasons all English-language publications ignored Hersh’s story. Maybe they had evidence that his inside intelligence was wrong. If so, they have yet to provide it. A rebuttal would require acknowledging Hersh’s story, and none seem willing to do that.

Or maybe the media thought it was old news and would no longer interest their readers. It would be difficult to sustain such an interpretation, but at least it has an air of plausibility – except for everything that has happened since Hersh published last Sunday.

His story has spawned two clear “spoiler” responses from those desperate to uphold the official narrative. Hersh’s revelations may have been entirely uninteresting to the western media, but strangely they have sent Washington into crisis mode. Of course, no US official has addressed Hersh’s investigation directly, which might have drawn attention to it and forced western media to reference it. Instead Washington has sought to deflect attention from Hersh’s alternative narrative and shore up the official one through misdirection. That alone should raise the alarm that we are being manipulated, not informed.

The first spoiler, made in the immediate wake of Hersh’s story, were statements from the Pentagon and White House warning that the US had evidence Assad was planning yet another chemical attack on his people and that Washington would respond extremely harshly if he did so.

Here is how the Guardian reported the US threats:

The US said on Tuesday that it had observed preparations for a possible chemical weapons attack at a Syrian air base allegedly involved in a sarin attack in April following a warning from the White House that the Syrian regime would ‘pay a heavy price’ for further use of the weapons.

And then on Friday, the second spoiler emerged. Two unnamed diplomats “confirmed” that a report by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) had found that some of the victims from Khan Sheikhoun showed signs of poisoning by sarin or sarin-like substances.

There are obvious reasons to be mightily suspicious of these stories. The findings of the OPCW were already known and had been discussed for some time – there was absolutely nothing newsworthy about them.

There are also well-known problems with the findings. There was no “chain of custody” – neutral oversight – of the bodies that were presented to the organisation in Turkey. Any number of interested parties could have contaminated the bodies before they reached the OPCW. For that reason, the OPCW has not concluded that the Assad regime was responsible for the traces of sarin. In the world of real news, only such a finding – that Assad was responsible – should have made the OPCW report interesting again to the media.

Similarly, by going public with their threats against Assad, the Pentagon and White House did not increase the deterrence on Assad, making it less likely he would use gas in the future. That could have been achieved much more effectively with private warnings to the Russians, who have massive leverage over Assad. These new warnings were meant not for Assad but for western publics, to bolster the official narrative that Hersh’s investigation had thrown into doubt.

In fact, the US threats increase, rather than reduce, the chances of a new chemical weapons attack. Other, anti-Assad actors now have a strong incentive to use chemical weapons in false-flag operation to implicate Assad, knowing that the US has committed itself to intervention. On any reading, the US statements were reckless – or malicious – in the extreme and likely to bring about the exact opposite of what they were supposed to achieve.

But beyond this, there was something even more troubling about these two stories. That these official claims were published so unthinkingly in major outlets is bad enough. But what is unconscionable is the media’s continuing blackout of Hersh’s investigation when it speaks directly to the two latest news reports.

No serious journalist could write up either story, according to any accepted norms of journalistic practice, and not make reference to Hersh’s claims. They are absolutely relevant to these stories. In fact, more than that, the intelligence sources he cites are are not only relevant but are the sole reason these two stories have been suddenly propelled to the top of the news agenda.

Any publication that has covered either the White House-Pentagon threats or the rehashing of the OPCW report and has not mentioned Hersh’s revelations is writing nothing less than propaganda in service of a western foreign policy agenda trying to bring about the illegal overthrow the Syrian government. And so far that appears to include every single US and UK mainstream newspaper and TV station.
 
Very insightful piece, but man, it's damn hard to follow the details on these countless factions and their ever-changing leadership. Can cause some serious headaches.

The general situation on the Golan is indeed worrying for Israel; I thought this part was particularly interesting:
If the overall trend continues to go in favor of the regime and its allies–whose priority right now is the eastern region of Syria and the borders with Iraq–then the sustainability of the conflict calibration policy may come into question if sufficient forces can be freed up for a large-scale offensive in Dar'a and Quneitra and there is no meaningful realization of an international agreement to keep Iranian forces and client militias away from the borders with the Golan Heights.
It's the first time I hear someone bring up the possibility of such an agreement, and I wonder what the prerequisites would have to be. One is probably some kind of credible and serious military threat from the coalition against Assad's/Iran's forces, canceling out their advantages in the potential Golan offensive the author describes. Russia would have to be factored in, too.

But even if such an agreement should be possible at all, it sounds like it'd still be a long way off and extremely complicated to achieve.
 
Very insightful piece, but man, it's damn hard to follow the details on these countless factions and their ever-changing leadership. Can cause some serious headaches.

Yeah seemingly all it takes is for a few dozen mates in Syria to get together with some weapons and a flag, give themselves a name, and that guy al-Tamimi will have an article up about them within a few months (random example -http://www.aymennjawad.org/19408/kataib-humat-al-diyar-a-prominent-loyalist)

The general situation on the Golan is indeed worrying for Israel; I thought this part was particularly interesting:

It's the first time I hear someone bring up the possibility of such an agreement, and I wonder what the prerequisites would have to be. One is probably some kind of credible and serious military threat from the coalition against Assad's/Iran's forces, canceling out their advantages in the potential Golan offensive the author describes. Russia would have to be factored in, too.

But even if such an agreement should be possible at all, it sounds like it'd still be a long way off and extremely complicated to achieve.

Hard to envision a situation where the Israelis don't end up pining for the good old days when the Assads kept the Golan quiet for 40 years.
 
Who are Britain’s jihadists?

Approximately 850 people from the UK have travelled to support or fight for jihadist groups in Syria and Iraq, say the British authorities.

This BBC News database is the most comprehensive public record of its kind, telling the story of over 100 people from the UK who have been convicted of offences relating to the conflict and over 150 others who have either died or are still in the region.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32026985
 
Walker, a 26-year-old university student from Wales in the United Kingdom, was in Syria volunteering with the People’s Protection Units, or YPG, a Kurdish-led militia that has been a leading force in the ground battle against the Islamic State. He had made the long journey to Syria after flying out of a London airport on a one-way ticket to Istanbul, appalled by the Islamic State’s brutal fascism and inspired by the YPG’s democratic socialist ideals.

Over the course of six months last year, Walker learned to speak Kurdish and shoot AK-47 assault rifles. He trained and fought alongside militia units made up of Kurds, Arabs, and young American, Canadian, and European volunteers. He faced Islamic State suicide bombers in battle and helped the YPG as it advanced toward Raqqa, the capital of the extremist group’s self-declared “caliphate.”

In late December, Walker returned to London. There was no welcome home party waiting to greet him. Instead, there were three police officers at the airport who swiftly arrested him. Walker was charged under British counterterrorism laws — not directly because of his activities in Syria, but because the police had found in a drawer under his bed a partial copy of the infamous “Anarchist Cookbook,” a DIY explosives guide published in 1971 that has sold more than 2 million copies worldwide.

https://theintercept.com/2017/07/10/josh-walker-isis-uk-terrorism-charge-ypg-syria/
 
Mosul...

toddler walking amongst dead family/relatives

DCsO8yWVwAA-kkK.jpg


more images :(

https://apimagesblog.com/blog/2017/7/6/mosul-endgame-in-images-caught-by-airstrikes-islamic-state

brutality and savagery of war - Iraqi troops + irregulars and war crimes

NWS!!!

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/exclusive-footage-reveals-brutal-war-crimes-in-battle-against-isis/
 
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Some stronger rumours than usual coming out reporting al-Baghdadi's death.
 
Mosul...

toddler walking amongst dead family/relatives

DCsO8yWVwAA-kkK.jpg


more images :(

https://apimagesblog.com/blog/2017/7/6/mosul-endgame-in-images-caught-by-airstrikes-islamic-state

brutality and savagery of war - Iraqi troops + irregulars and war crimes

NWS!!!

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/exclusive-footage-reveals-brutal-war-crimes-in-battle-against-isis/
I knew that was going to happen but when someone sees his 4 brothers dying.... anyway children in Syria and Iraq are traumatized I'm sure and its time for people in the middle east to think family first then the rest, we from the West used to acted the same way specially Portugal and Spain but the fact some kings thought they were above everything including the church was good in a long run.
 
Mosul...

toddler walking amongst dead family/relatives

DCsO8yWVwAA-kkK.jpg


more images :(

https://apimagesblog.com/blog/2017/7/6/mosul-endgame-in-images-caught-by-airstrikes-islamic-state

brutality and savagery of war - Iraqi troops + irregulars and war crimes

NWS!!!

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/exclusive-footage-reveals-brutal-war-crimes-in-battle-against-isis/

So no #SaveMosul campaign? Where are all these western politicians and showbiz celebrities with their crocodile tears about Aleppo kids? fecking hypocrites.