ISIS in Iraq and Syria

Honestly I wish all the people who're shit scared of Muslims taking over the west and turning everything we have into a caliphate would sit down and watch that blast alongside the average Muslim citizen and then they'd realise that these cnuts don't represent anything but human waste and they have no ideology or beliefs, they're just subhuman scum.

But then that'd be unfair on the poor unfortunate Muslim citizen that has to sit down and watch this alongside them.
 
Honestly I wish all the people who're shit scared of Muslims taking over the west and turning everything we have into a caliphate would sit down and watch that blast alongside the average Muslim citizen and then they'd realise that these cnuts don't represent anything but human waste and they have no ideology or beliefs, they're just subhuman scum.

But then that'd be unfair on the poor unfortunate Muslim citizen that has to sit down and watch this alongside them.
They clearly do have an ideology and beliefs - and they are clearly fubar. It's the spread of that fubar set of beliefs that makes them dangerous, to everyone.
 
They clearly do have an ideology and beliefs - and they are clearly fubar. It's the spread of that fubar set of beliefs that makes them dangerous, to everyone.

These bombings are attention seeking ploys.

If they had a true belief and ideology system that led them to suicide bombing and killing innocent people they'd all be dead by now along with a lot more people.

As it is, they're slaves to people with more power than they have, manipulative people with nothing more than aggression and big words to power them above others. The ones that die 'in the name of Allah', 'in the name of ISIS' and so on have nothing and are nothing.
 
Looks like a couple of ISIS heavyweights been taken out:





Al Bin'ali is (was) the Islamic State's top clerical figure.
 
:lol: It's the same guy! (Should have seen it from the photos). I'd heard of al Binali but not Sulami. Same asshole different name.
 
Oh no doubt - and I even get that as blase as it sounds...people die in wars...they always have and always will.

But, regardless of the realities...I expect us to be better.

What makes you think you are? In fact, considering the number of countries you've invaded/bombed in the recent history you're much worse.
 
Isn't that another example of whataboutism?

Not at all. Whataboutism would be if the US bombed indiscriminately and I attempted to obfuscate from discussing it by deflecting to the fact that the Russians do it as well. When in fact the Russians do in fact do it (then publicly deny it) but the U.S. don't. They instead have a clear ROE as to what they can and can't go after.
 
Can we just agree that all sides are pretty shit.

The US, the Russians, The Saudis, the Turks, Assad, the rebels, the jihadists.

Long live the YPG.
 
It's on:



How great would it be to see Raqqa and Mosul free by the end of the summer?
 
It's on:



How great would it be to see Raqqa and Mosul free by the end of the summer?


No chance the Turks will let it happen.

My money's on them suddenly growing a conscience and intervening in the last minute before the city is all but taken back by the SDF.
 
https://www.indy100.com/article/bri...remy-corbyn-vote-labour-election-2017-7771246

A group of British volunteers fighting Isis in Syria have called on the UK to vote for Jeremy Corbyn.

The socialist members of the Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) and its International Freedom Battalion backed the Labour leader’s controversial comments on foreign policy following the Manchester attack.

In a statement sent to indy100 they said:

Only Jeremy Corbyn knows the way to stop Isis - through a foreign policy that cuts off their funding and supplies at the source.

Only he has been outspoken in his condemnation of the oppression of Kurds in the Middle East at this crucial time, with the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces about to defeat Isis in their capital of Raqqa.

The longer Theresa May is Prime Minister, the less safe everybody is, both here in Syria and back home in the UK.

The British volunteers, who are on the front line of a mounting offensive to take back Isis’ largest remaining stronghold alongside troops backed by the US-led coalition, said they were fighting to expunge the terror group “for the safety of all of humanity”.

They accused Mrs May of allowing jihadis including the Manchester bomber, Salman Abedi, to travel between the UK and Libya during the country’s civil war, as well as selling arms to countries that support Islamist rebels in Syria.

"Along with her toffee-nosed millionaire colleagues in the Conservative Party, she has brought nothing but instability to this region,” their statement read.

The group, previously known as the Bob Crow Brigade in honour of the late trade union leader, are fighting not just to defeat Isis but for a socialist “revolution” they see as the future for a peaceful and democratic Syria.

Members previously told The Independent that “dying for socialism is an honour” as they prepared to face Isis’ car bombs, snipers and mines in Raqqa.

Three British volunteers - a former Royal Marine, a chef and a dairy farmer - have already been killed fighting alongside the YPG in Syria, while other fighters have been prosecuted upon their return to the UK.
 
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Reports that Abu-Bakr al Baghdati has been killed in an air strike. If this is true, and with the Syrian Democratic Forces entering Raqqa, then the end of ISIS is quite near.
 
How would one go about finding out where tweets are coming from? With a VPN I could tweet from Kansas myself and I'm from the other side of the ocean. Tweeting ISIS support is something nobody* would do without some sort of privacy shield, especially not in the US post-Snowden.

*in their right mind.
 
Here's a former Nusra spokesman talking about how the Saudi-Qatar conflict is affecting opposition relations in Syria:

 
Raqqa battle: 'Staggering' civilian toll in strikes on IS.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40271450

UN war crimes investigators say US-led coalition air strikes on Islamic State militants in the Syrian city of Raqqa are causing "staggering loss of life".

Hundreds of civilians are reported to have been killed since March, as coalition warplanes support an offensive by a Kurdish-led alliance.

In the past week, Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) fighters have pushed into the west, east and north of Raqqa.

The battle for the city has also led to 160,000 civilians fleeing their homes.
 
Raqqa battle: 'Staggering' civilian toll in strikes on IS.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40271450

UN war crimes investigators say US-led coalition air strikes on Islamic State militants in the Syrian city of Raqqa are causing "staggering loss of life".

Hundreds of civilians are reported to have been killed since March, as coalition warplanes support an offensive by a Kurdish-led alliance.

In the past week, Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) fighters have pushed into the west, east and north of Raqqa.

The battle for the city has also led to 160,000 civilians fleeing their homes.
Civilians always died in wars and when we have cowards using them as a shield them I'm surprised we don't have a bigger number.
 
More Baghdadi death rumours, this time some claiming the Russians have got him. That would certainly piss the Americans off.
 
I swear if someone kills the Sheikh...I'm gonna riot

This is apparently the site - not quite sure what to make of it

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So let me get this straight. Americans invade Syria illegally and conduct military operations there without permission from the only recognized government and president or even a UN mandate. Now they shoot down a Syrian plane and issue a statement explaining how they were within their rights to do so. That's just priceless.
 
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-us-regime-warplane-isis-terror-a7797101.html


"Russia has threatened to shoot down US warplanes operating in parts of Syria where its air forces operate amid a diplomatic row caused by the downing of a Syrian jet.

The country's defence ministry said it had suspended a hotline between Russia and the US aimed at avoiding mid-air collisions.

The statement followed after a US warplane shot down a Syrian army jet on Sunday in the countryside near Raqqa.

Washington said the jet had dropped bombs near US-backed forces but Damascus said the plane was downed while flying a mission against Isis militants.

Russia's Defence Ministry said the suspension of its communication channel with the Americans would begin immediately.

The US did not use its communication channel with Russia ahead of the downing of the Syrian government warplane, the ministry was quoted as saying."
 
Why Is the U.S. Killing So Many Civilians in Syria and Iraq?

This makes for a very alarming read. Is it normal for a president to grant the military total authority across the board?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/19/...id=nytcore-iphone-share&smprod=nytcore-iphone

Two weeks ago, the American military finally acknowledged what nongovernmental monitoring groups had claimed for months: The United States-led coalition fighting the Islamic State since August 2014 has been killing Iraqi and Syrian civilians at astounding rates in the four months since President A Circus Clown assumed office. The result has been a “staggering loss of civilian life,” as the head of the United Nations’ independent Commission of Inquiry into the Syrian civil war said last week.

“At least 484 civilians have been unintentionally killed by coalition strikes,” the United States Central Command, or Centcom, the military command responsible for the Middle East, said in a June 2 statement. Four months earlier, Centcom had said at least 199 civilians had been killed up to that point in the bombing campaign. Estimates by independent monitors are much higher. Airwars, a watchdog group, says coalition airstrikes have killed nearly 4,000 civilians.

The civilian death toll has risen mainly because the battle has moved deeper into major cities. But even as the civilian death toll ticks upward, the American military has relaxed oversight, investigation and accountability on civilian casualties. Finding out the reasons for these tragic mistakes, seeing what can be learned from them and enforcing the American military’s own standards could save thousands of lives.

A Circus Clown has given the military “total authorization” to decide how, and how much, force will be used, authority that was more closely held by the Obama White House. But Secretary of Defense James Mattis insisted on May 28 that the rules of engagement have not changed. “There is no relaxation of our intention to protect the innocent,” he said.

Also, more strikes have occurred in populated areas, like Mosul, the Islamic State’s last stronghold in Iraq. A 500-pound bomb aimed at two snipers there detonated stored explosives, which collapsed a building and killed 105 Iraqi civilians on March 17, according to Centcom. Since the Islamic State is using residential buildings as command posts, storage depots and fighting positions, noncombatant deaths are more likely.

Yet far more troubling factors have emerged.

Even as the American military has accelerated its bombing, there is no independent assessment of the intelligence used to identify targets. Brig. Gen. Richard Coe, who investigated a mistaken attack on a Syrian military convoy in September, acknowledged that there was no “red team” to critique the decision-making process, a common approach in many commands. “Each person is expected to do that on their own,” General Coe said, “and then, in the process, funnel up the pros and cons to decision makers.” Individuals immersed in identifying enemy targets cannot simultaneously evaluate their own judgments.

Until June 13, the American military had only two people investigating Iraqi and Syrian civilian casualties full time. There now are seven full-time investigators, still a meager commitment given that around 10,000 troops are stationed in Qatar at the command’s headquarters for the air war. A dozen people investigated such claims at the height of the Afghanistan surge in 2011. If the military were concerned about civilian deaths, more investigators with training and experience in targeting would be assigned to those teams.

There is also no longer any public accountability. On May 26, an American military press officer confirmed that the Pentagon will no longer acknowledge when its own aircraft are responsible for civilian casualty incidents; rather they will be hidden under the umbrella of the “coalition.” The United States military has been responsible for 95 percent of airstrikes in Syria and 68 percent in Iraq. Centcom should own up to its own actions rather than dispersing responsibility.

Congress has shown little interest in identifying the root causes of civilian deaths, holding commanders or lower-level officers accountable, or ensuring that the lessons learned from mistaken strikes are integrated into future operations. Congress could exercise its oversight role by mandating Pentagon reporting about what steps it has taken to mitigate civilian harm, funding additional awareness training for American and other coalition officers, and holding public hearings with senior civilian and military officials.

Since the air war began some 22,000 airstrikes ago, military officials have repeatedly claimed that they “do everything possible” to protect civilians. Making good on that promise is not only the right thing to do — it is also strategically vital to the longer-term effectiveness of the fight against terrorism.
 
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Looks like ISIS have destroyed the al-Nuri mosque where al-Baghdadi gave his Caliphate speech three years ago. Probably wanted to deny a propaganda victory to the Iraqi forces.

(Edit) - just reading about it, it was almost 900 years old. Ibn Battuta visited in the 14th century :(

(Edit) - ISIS blaming an American airstrike, which actually wouldn't surprise anyone.
 
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Looks like an admission of defeat to me, the Caliphate is pretty much finished for the moment.
 
How low can you get even destroying places of worship, cancerous scum.
 
How low can you get even destroying places of worship, cancerous scum.
They've been killing the very people who fill up the places of worship in their thousands for years and years.

Human life >>>> Mosque or Minaret.

So, this isn't that shocking. Mind you I read somewhere they blamed the US for the destruction.