ISIS in Iraq and Syria

Ta-da, Osama bin Ladin mk2... Run for your life people. Won't be long before media turn hime into most wanted in the world.. He is probably sitting somewhere with nice glass of Martini and a bag of dollars next to hime, from foreign intelligence.

 
111 ISIS fighters killed by YPG forces in Kobane in the past 2 days. 14 confirmed YPG martyrs.

They launched an offensive on Kobane using the weapons they seized in Mosul.

Edit: newer numbers put the figure at 210 ISIS killed after last nights clashes. Number of YPG likely to be higher than 14.
 
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Ta-da, Osama bin Ladin mk2... Run for your life people. Won't be long before media turn hime into most wanted in the world.. He is probably sitting somewhere with nice glass of Martini and a bag of dollars next to hime, from foreign intelligence.



Highly unlikely he's doing either. He's probably in a safe house somewhere in Anbar.

Or else he's off shooting a terrorist leader audition video in Mosul.

 
Highly unlikely he's doing either. He's probably in a safe house somewhere in Anbar.

Or else he's off shooting a terrorist leader audition video in Mosul.


Stopped watching as soon as he opened his mouth and started preaching verses from Quran. These impostors make me sick. it's madness, CIA WANTED to catch Saddam and Qadafi, they destroyed their whole National Army, tore the country Apart and found Saddam hiding in a hole, Qadafi hiding under a bridge.
But they failed to find Osama bin laden all those years, it makes you wonder if they really wanted to find hime. I get it, "Al-Qaeda" is a worldwide network and hard to stop but still killing head of the chain always effects the whole network.

Now this "ISIS" wanker leader, I mean if he is really a threat and not a puppet, why not use all the technology/resources to kill hime. America the greatest super power in the world blah blah and then they fail to finish a guy or his network which is a threat.

As I posted before, it's all a propaganda nothing else. Terrorist are coming, pay more taxes/live in fear/racism.. Oh and divide and break countries and then sell weapons to them to fight against each other. I would love to know how much money America generate from their weapon industries.
 
Blame America for every problem why don't we.


Hope he stays in Mosul and the Iraqi army grow a pair and retake it, then they blow his head off.
 
Leader of Kurdistan's socialist democratic party says "32 countries support Kurdistani independence and have talked to President Barzani".

Who do we think these 32 are?

Edit: Germany, Armenia, Argentina, Belgium, Bulgaria, Bahrain, Finland, France, Qatar, Poland, Portugal, Albania, Kenya, Lebanon, Turkey, Tunisia, Sweden, Kazakhstan, Greece, Japan, Italy, Canada, Mexico, Georgia, South Africa, Czech, Austria, New Zealand, Croatia, India, China, Israel.


Hmmm...
 
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Blame America for every problem why don't we.


Hope he stays in Mosul and the Iraqi army grow a pair and retake it, then they blow his head off.
I don't know if you Iraqi or what.?
I am not blaming America, what is happening now in Iraq and other countries - I have seen it happening in my country since young age. I know and I have witnessed it that how media/intelligence agencies can brain wash us civilians.
 
Leader of Kurdistan's socialist democratic party says "32 countries support Kurdistani independence and have talked to President Barzani".

Who do we think these 32 are?

Edit: Germany, Armenia, Argentina, Belgium, Bulgaria, Bahrain, Finland, France, Qatar, Poland, Portugal, Albania, Kenya, Lebanon, Turkey, Tunisia, Sweden, Kazakhstan, Greece, Japan, Italy, Canada, Mexico, Georgia, South Africa, Czech, Austria, New Zealand, Croatia, India, China, Israel.


Hmmm...

Turkey? That can't be right.
 
Stopped watching as soon as he opened his mouth and started preaching verses from Quran. These impostors make me sick. it's madness, CIA WANTED to catch Saddam and Qadafi, they destroyed their whole National Army, tore the country Apart and found Saddam hiding in a hole, Qadafi hiding under a bridge.
But they failed to find Osama bin laden all those years, it makes you wonder if they really wanted to find hime. I get it, "Al-Qaeda" is a worldwide network and hard to stop but still killing head of the chain always effects the whole network.

Now this "ISIS" wanker leader, I mean if he is really a threat and not a puppet, why not use all the technology/resources to kill hime. America the greatest super power in the world blah blah and then they fail to finish a guy or his network which is a threat.

As I posted before, it's all a propaganda nothing else. Terrorist are coming, pay more taxes/live in fear/racism.. Oh and divide and break countries and then sell weapons to them to fight against each other. I would love to know how much money America generate from their weapon industries.

Not to worry, I don't sense he will be around much longer. They never are. Well, except Zawahiri....but he's a bit irrelevant at this point.
 
Not to worry, I don't sense he will be around much longer. They never are. Well, except Zawahiri....but he's a bit irrelevant at this point.

Trouble is, you get rid of one of them and another enigmatic personality takes his place.

Bin Laden and Zawahiri getting killed did little to quell Al Qaeda's stranglehold in the Middle East and indeed the rest of the world.
 
Trouble is, you get rid of one of them and another enigmatic personality takes his place.

Bin Laden and Zawahiri getting killed did little to quell Al Qaeda's stranglehold in the Middle East and indeed the rest of the world.

Its certainly not what it was 15 years ago. They've moved shop to Yemen, Iraq, and North Africa but they will eventually run out of territory once the respective governments get wise to their schtick.
 
Its certainly not what it was 15 years ago. They've moved shop to Yemen, Iraq, and North Africa but they will eventually run out of territory once the respective governments get wise to their schtick.

They seem to have set up quite healthily in Syria too. Trouble is, they're getting all kinds of support from neighboring nations and wealthy individuals.
 
Turkey? That can't be right.

And India also which is unlikely because we'll stay neutral because we've had good relations with iraq durring saddam and have decent relations with iran also currently.

although personally i favour a kurd nation, iraq is a artificial country sketched by imperial powers.
 
And India also which is unlikely because we'll stay neutral because we've had good relations with iraq durring saddam and have decent relations with iran also currently.

although personally i favour a kurd nation, iraq is a artificial country sketched by imperial powers.

You can say that about the entire Middle East though.

The fact of the matter is, 'Iraq', Mesopotamia or whatever its been known as in recent history, has historically been a secular country where all sects and ethnic groups have lived harmoniously amongst one another, only recently has it been divided along sectarian lines. Partition is only being encouraged to divide and conquer the nation and its resources.
 
The Iraqi army captures Al-Awja (Saddam's birthplace), which is the last town before the city of Tikrit (from the South), and still controls the Speicher Air Base and Tikrit's University which is bordering the city from the north.

They're now in the process of securing the supply lines all the way from Samarra to Tikrit before starting an operation to seize the city of Tikrit.
 
This is really starting to piss me off now. Isis have launched huge attacks on Kobane, latest reports from this afternoon are that they used 19 (!) American tanks taken from Mosul to seize 3 Kurdish villages near Kobane. YPG have managed to hold off the onslaught for the most part but all they have are rusty ww2 weapons and are quickly running out of food and supplies.

Why can't Barzani just forget about politics for a second and send Peshmerga or aid in? YPG didn't hesitate in sending troops when Peshmerga needed them but they refuse to do the same. YPG martyrs probably number around 60 since the offence began, doesn't sound like a lot but with our supplies running out, ISIS may well succeed in their plans.

Also anyone seen what Maliki had to say? He said Erbil (Kurdistan) are harbouring terrorists and are also the enemy. He's gone absolutely mental! He plans to retake the areas "stolen" by Kurdish forces once ISIS have been dealt with. What a Cnut.
 
They're surrounding Kobane as we speak, 40 tanks and a few thousand men have somehow encircled the city. This is going to be a tough few days to take. :(
 
They're surrounding Kobane as we speak, 40 tanks and a few thousand men have somehow encircled the city. This is going to be a tough few days to take. :(

May the slimy vermin isis be kicked into there graves swiftly.
 
Huge losses for ISIS these past few days, of the 40 tanks that were reported to be in the area, only 6 are left functioning. They still have a lot of heavy weapons to use but the YPG are holding their ground.
 
Did you really expect Barzani to forget about politics? His family are the biggest liability to the Kurdish people, he's essentially holding them back from independence.
 
Did you really expect Barzani to forget about politics? His family are the biggest liability to the Kurdish people, he's essentially holding them back from independence.

Oddly enough, they may be independent soon under him, which may poke a hole or two in your theory.
 
Oddly enough, they may be independent soon under him, which may poke a hole or two in your theory.

They could have had independence years back were it not for his constant gerrymandering, scheming against his rivals and consolidating his quasi-God complex. If they were to become independent during his tenure then its in spite if him instead of down to him. He's lucky that ISIS have made this independence malarchy an easy bet for them now.
 
They could have had independence years back were it not for his constant gerrymandering, scheming against his rivals and consolidating his quasi-God complex. If they were to become independent during his tenure then its in spite if him instead of down to him. He's lucky that ISIS have made this independence malarchy an easy bet for them now.

Independence was never an option in the past. The Kurds have been hedging for something like what's happening now, when the central government was sufficiently weakened due to weak leadership, an insurgency, and Turkey being pre-occupied with other things.
 
Independence was never an option in the past. The Kurds have been hedging for something like what's happening now, when the central government was sufficiently weakened due to weak leadership, an insurgency, and Turkey being pre-occupied with other things.

And this was partly down to power struggles between the Barzani and Talibani families, with other external elements thrown in for good measure. I mean if the president of Kurdistan sees no qualms in recruiting Saddam's help to butcher his rivals, then you really have no chance as a nation-prospect, irrespective of how Machiavellian you want to angle this.
 
And this was partly down to power struggles between the Barzani and Talibani families, with other external elements thrown in for good measure. I mean if the president of Kurdistan sees no qualms in recruiting Saddam's help to butcher his rivals, then you really have no chance as a nation-prospect, irrespective of how Machiavellian you want to angle this.

So when during the Saddam era was Kurdish independence a realistic proposition ?
 
So when during the Saddam era was Kurdish independence a realistic proposition ?

Unlikely, but it wasn't a far-fetched proposition considering they'd defeated Saddam and claimed an autonomous bearing over the Kurdish region in the north. The more ripe window would have been between 2003-2012 as an arbitrary estimate.
 
Unlikely, but it wasn't a far-fetched proposition considering they'd defeated Saddam and claimed an autonomous bearing over the Kurdish region in the north. The more ripe window would have been between 2003-2012 as an arbitrary estimate.

That was obviously not going to happen because the US didn't want the country split apart, and the two primary Kurdish factions had good relations with Washington, and as such, didn't want to rock the boat. The best realistic proposition was to bide their time for instability such as today's, where they could move to protect their territory and oilfields from ISIS in the absence of a strong central government to do anything about it. I'm sure this will quickly turn into independence in the next year or so. They just need to get the US on board, or else it will be a bumpy ride all the way.
 
That was obviously not going to happen because the US didn't want the country split apart, and the two primary Kurdish factions had good relations with Washington, and as such, didn't want to rock the boat. The best realistic proposition was to bide their time for instability such as today's, where they could move to protect their territory and oilfields from ISIS in the absence of a strong central government to do anything about it. I'm sure this will quickly turn into independence in the next year or so. They just need to get the US on board, or else it will be a bumpy ride all the way.

How is it the US would entertain the idea of Kurdish independence if it'll upset one of their biggest allies in the region - Turkey.
 
How is it the US would entertain the idea of Kurdish independence if it'll upset one of their biggest allies in the region - Turkey.

That may have been the logic a decade ago, but it's an inevitability now. Even if Maliki manages to rout ISIS out of most of Iraq (unlikely at this point), Kurdish leaders are already speaking as if the situation in Iraq has changed to where they can proceed with independence.

 
So its down to a referendum for the Kurdish people then? Well I wonder how the results of that would pan out :lol:

Would probably end up looking like a North Korean election, except it'll be genuine.
 
So its down to a referendum for the Kurdish people then? Well I wonder how the results of that would pan out :lol:

Would probably end up looking like a North Korean election, except it'll be genuine.

As I said, inevitable.
 
So its down to a referendum for the Kurdish people then? Well I wonder how the results of that would pan out :lol:

Would probably end up looking like a North Korean election, except it'll be genuine.
:lol:
 
Am I the only one getting wound up by poeple showing support by changing a profile picture on Facebook? I mean, it's better than nothing I guess but it's just laughable that some people even think it makes the slightest of difference to reality.
 
Am I the only one getting wound up by poeple showing support by changing a profile picture on Facebook? I mean, it's better than nothing I guess but it's just laughable that some people even think it makes the slightest of difference to reality.

It's my facebook cover photo. Sue me.

It might not make a tangible difference but so long as it brings attention to the issue and creates a sense of much-lacking solidarity and community amongst Iraqis (or even all Muslims/Arabs), then I don't see what the problem is.