Is Verratti wasting his career away at PSG? (other stars who avoided big moves...)
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So, at the end of the day, it's just a muppet thread in disguise. It would have been more honest if you just named it "We should buy Verratti asap". That way the unnecessary dumping on other clubs/leagues could have been avoided entirely.
No I was still intrigued about everyones thoughts on a BPITW material player spending their entire prime in a weaker league - it was an interesting discussion and must admit, whilst I still think he should be challenging himself in a tougher league.. I can see it from a different point of view now. Winning a CL at PSG, becoming an icon of a league (if he does well for Italy this will help his profile).
There was a lot of support for him staying at PSG, so it was good to be challenged and be made to look at things differently.
I'm sorry, I understand that's one of a couple of points you were making but exactly what relevance does that fact have in the context of the topic of this thread? Are you saying he should jump into a time machine and go back 25 years and then he wouldn't feel so unaccomplished playing in a one-team league with the only down-side being PSG aren't rich yet?
He doesn't want to be a PSG icon. He will move next year IMO
Barca will always win out against a PSG.
PSG want to be big though and frankly there's no reason why they can't be. They have the money and play in a strong league.
They are up there with the best teams now in my opinion.
Remember their 4-0 win over Barca?
I can see them in a CL final within 3 years. They need players like Veratti to validate their status as one of the big 6.
PSG want to be big though and frankly there's no reason why they can't be. They have the money and play in a strong league.
They are up there with the best teams now in my opinion.
Remember their 4-0 win over Barca?
I can see them in a CL final within 3 years. They need players like Veratti to validate their status as one of the big 6.
I always thought Daniel Di Rossi could have won something if he'd left Roma. He was a great CDM. He did win the world cup though.
He admitted that he had wasted away his club career and regretted it, but also said the thought of playing for anyone but Roma left him in tears.
I can't see how a team like PSG can have that emotional tug over Verratti's heart and it is being seen right now.
Anything verifying that first line about de Rossi?
http://www.football-italia.net/101712/de-rossi-i-made-wrong-choices
Said he had offers from United and Madrid. Capello was quoted as saying he was tailor made for United.
I read that as him being aware that he could have gone somewhere else and had other experiences, but loving Roma more than that. I don't think "wasted" is the word he or anyone would choose to describe his time at Roma
I think PSG will win the Champions League within the next 5 years, Verrati isn't exactly wasting his career there if he ends up winning a CL although I'm sure most football fans would love to see him play in a more prestigious league.
He said he knew he could have had a better career but chose to sacrifice it for the love for Roma. His love for the club was more important to him and he would rather waste his career there and win nothing (but try to win for them) than win elsewhere.
I would definitely say he wasted his career there, because for me he could and should have been the best CDM in the world even at club level whereas for me Totti hasn't really lost alot outside of trophies by remaining with Roma as he is seen as Mr Roma and his style of play meant he wasn't always going to be a guaranteed success elsewhere as he needs the side to be build around him
Look at the way Pirlo is remembered, De Rossi was a slightly different type of midfielder to Xavi/Scholes, he was more in the Keane mould but super talented.. could have been one of the all time midfield greats.
Insanely good.
I think if you claim De Rossi wasted his career at Roma you have to put totti in the same boat, or at least admit 99/100ths of his body is in that boat. There's no guarantee of success at another club, maybe Totti moves to Real Madrid age 25 and goes on to break rauls champions league record before Ronaldo does, maybe De Rossi goes to Barcelona and turns into Thomas Gravesen. All we can do is look back on what they did, and De Rossi is effectively still Mr Roma mkII, he's won the World Cup with his country and despite not that many club trophies, he'll retire respected as a legend of the club, the country and a rarity in the modern game in that he did it all at one club. He will also retire an exceptionally wealthy man.
Using the word waste for someone who clearly bleeds the club crest is a bit of an insult. It's best left at " Probably could have won more trophies by moving somewhere else ". We also don't know the questions that the interviewer asked him, I suspect they would be ridiculously leading questions and not De Rossi just preemptively talking about regrets.
You keep saying he has admitted he "wasted" his career. Where does he say that?
Wasted is not the right word to use here. Staying loyal to a club that you love and where that love is reciprocated is not wasting a career, regardless of how many trophies you could have won elsewhere.
If I was playing, I would rather play for a mid-table United than a CL-winning Real Madrid.
Reus, Totti, Kane
Absolutely not, Must stay at psg for atleast 5-6 years and win multiple titles there .
If it wasn't for his injuries I reckon Reus would have made a move 1-2 years ago.
Watched the first 40seconds, shocking tackle on Cleverley, and aimless ball smashed out of play.
"Insanely good"
Zlatan said something to the effect that he wasted years at PSG as the French league was too easy for him.
He loved it at United. Shame we didn't buy him five years.
He loved it at United. Shame we didn't buy him five years.
Le Tissier if he wasnt such a lazy git
As long as PSG doesn't advance in the CL past the QF, he'll be wasting his time because he's won everything else there is to win.
As long as he and some of his teammates don't up their games, PSG won't past the QF.
True. He was abysmal in that historic return leg.
This is the one that I thought of too.
At one point super talent like Verratti, Keita etc must start having second thoughts about joining cash fueled clubs like PSG\Leipzig.
They nearly always hinder your next move \ dream move due to having no use for the cash.
They probably fancy themselves as end destination type of clubs, but come on, let's be realistic - for the best talent they are always stepping stones.
They nearly always hinder your next move \ dream move due to having no use for the cash.
They probably fancy themselves as end destination type of clubs, but come on, let's be realistic - for the best talent they are always stepping stones.
Griezmann, Slippy Gerard,
That is why there are release clauses. Kieta has a 48 million euro release clause in his contract effective next year and if he performs like he did this year then he can leave.
Players are not prisoners, they can always demand a release clause in a contract or run down a contract.
Marek Hamsik too. He left his agent few years ago (who was Mino Raiola) and chose to stay in Naples forever.
I think he's still a top player.
I think he's still a top player.
The main issue here is that Barcelona have angered PSG by taking this publicly. This isn't 2010 where they can bully clubs to sell their players, especially PSG, a club that can pay more than Barcelona. They also cannot really afford Verratti because of the ridiculous wages they pay to even the non starters. They have had good enough midfileders but they sacrificed Thiago so they could sign Neymar illegally. They have Alena who is a great prospect now. The club better hope Bartomeu gets over a 60% no vote confidence. Typical Nunista behaviour.
Was it really illlegal the way they signed neymar?
Would love Verratti to come to United. Fantastic player.
Kinda, yeah. Combination of tax evasion and fraud against DIS(TPO who owned a % of his transfer fee). The former for sure as the Spanish court ruled it so. The latter, current in the courts
So Liverpool, Tottenham, Arsenal, or even United are "tough matches" but Sevilla and Villarreal are not?
Griezmann will move to United next season, very small possibility that it even happens in the winter window.
The idea of Veratti's career being "wasted" at PSG seems weird to me. He's already won a load of domestic trophies and will almost certainly win more. He's playing for one of the best teams in the world and I'd be very surprised if they don't win a CL before the end of his career.
Other than going to Barça, Madrid, Bayern or Juve, any other move would be a downward step.
Other than going to Barça, Madrid, Bayern or Juve, any other move would be a downward step.
He's been there a while now so I'd say so. I think Ibrahimovic spent too many years there as well. Another that springs to mind is Larsson at Celtic, but he loved living in Glasgow.