Perhaps he enjoys his life in Paris? As long as he is happy, he's certainly not *wasting* his career. Because that is alone for him to decide upon.
Is Verratti wasting his career away at PSG? (other stars who avoided big moves...)
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Perhaps he enjoys his life in Paris? As long as he is happy, he's certainly not *wasting* his career. Because that is alone for him to decide upon.
I don't see how he is wasting his career in PSG. Are you saying it's because the league is weak? So what's the alternative? Spain, he will only have 4 tough matches there against the other big 2.
If he goes to the PL, maybe he will get the 10 or so tough matches.
If he goes to the Bundesliga, he gets 3 or 4 tough matches.
The UCL is the same for every club, so how is he wasting his talent when it boils down to playing 4 - 10 extra tough matches a season and playing in the same continental competition to everyone else?
If he goes to the PL, maybe he will get the 10 or so tough matches.
If he goes to the Bundesliga, he gets 3 or 4 tough matches.
The UCL is the same for every club, so how is he wasting his talent when it boils down to playing 4 - 10 extra tough matches a season and playing in the same continental competition to everyone else?
As long as he is happy.. of course it is not a waste from his own perspective. In fact compared to the average joe, his life is pretty damn spectacular. I meant from our perspective as fans of football. If we were to judge his career, would we consider that a waste.
Like I said, I can't off the top of my head recall a situation where the best player in their respective position in the world has spent their entire prime at a French club.
Past year PSG won the title with 96 points. Second place had 65 points. Out of 38 league games, they scored more than 4 goals, 13 times.
The years before it was slightly more competitive, but the amount of trouncing PSG hand out suggests the league is not competitive. Now in the spanish league, Barca and Real dish out trouncing but they're up against good standard of teams (the proof is europa league, where Spanish sides trump sides from all the other leagues) but because these two teams are that good, they make it look very easy.. the very definition of class.
People criticise the spanish league as non-competitive.. but it couldn't be further from the truth. Its just the top two sides are so good, they make the other teams look average.. whereas PSG are genuinely playing shit teams. That is the difference.
I'm sure there are a lot football fans in France who are glad to see him playing every week. You'd do well in showing a bit more generosity. Every league needs some star players, Verrati is one of them in France. So what?
I can't recall a situation where a french club belonged to the most wealthy ones in the world, able to offer a real perspective to win the most important trophy in club football, either.
The premise of the thread of was the testing of his talents not a comment on the Spanish league, whether the teams are all good quality or not is irrelevant. It is whether there is a disparity between the quality. If all the teams were 9/10s and the top 2 are 18/10, yes there is quality but he isn't going to get that much of a test when he is in a super team alongside Kroos Modric or Busquests and Iniesta.
To that point, moving from PSG holds little water whether going to Spain, Germany or England.
Following this line of logic, we probably can't say Shearer is wasting his career at Newcastle then.
It didn't affect Ibrahimovic legacy much when he has had his best seasons in France I guess?
PSG is the best club to try and become the most decorated player in history. Winning the first CL of the club would represent much more in the big scheme of things than winning the nth one in another club.
Verratti would be wasting his career in England, there's no league less suited to him in terms of playstyle and refereeing than EPL.
Seriously what's more boring than Real and Barca getting all the top players. The best thing that could happen to football is more teams from different leagues being able to keep their best players.
Verratti would be wasting his career in England, there's no league less suited to him in terms of playstyle and refereeing than EPL.
Seriously what's more boring than Real and Barca getting all the top players. The best thing that could happen to football is more teams from different leagues being able to keep their best players.
Previously I would have said he is only there for the coin he is getting but we are hardly in a position to joke about that ourselves now are we
But the likes of Xavi and Pirlo forged their reputation by consistently performing in the biggest games. If Verratti repeats Xavi's Champions League performances with PSG, or Pirlo's class at World Cup 2006 or Euro 2012, then he'll be considered in that top bracket accordingly. Verratti should have the opportunity to do that - he plays for a major international side and a major club side. And if he doesn't perform at that level, then he won't be considered as one of the greats. If he was stuck in the SPL and was Scottish, then yeah I'd get your point as he'd need to maximise any opportunity he has to shine at a higher level. To further that point, I'm not sure that it's all that more challenging playing for Barca/Real in La Liga, given the massive quality discrepancy versus the mid-and-lower table sides. It's not like going to Serie A in the 1980s or 1990s, or La Liga around the turn of the century.
I don't think for example that Eusebio's legacy is affected by staying in Portugal his entire career. Or some of the great pre-1990 Eastern Europeans. They maybe don't get the plaudits they deserve, but anyone who makes a bit of effort to watch and consider them properly will appreciate their undoubted class.
PSG is a big team in a great city and they have a good chance of winning the Champions League every year. So no.
For what its worth, there's a lot of good talent in Ligue 1. Just because a lot of people don't know them, doesn't mean they're not talented. Look at Payet. He was consistently one of the best players in Ligue 1 for years and people only started taking notice when he started doing it for West Ham.
For what its worth, there's a lot of good talent in Ligue 1. Just because a lot of people don't know them, doesn't mean they're not talented. Look at Payet. He was consistently one of the best players in Ligue 1 for years and people only started taking notice when he started doing it for West Ham.
Once he is retired, he can look back at the money that he has earned during his playing career. That is what will pay for his lifestyle after football. He is not wasting his career by any means.
I don't think he would. His physical attributes may be less than perfect however he has shown in the past that he has enough bite and aggression in him to handle it. In terms of play-style, similar players to Verratti have played in the PL and done very well. He's more than capable of playing in the league and making a huge impact. Actually, in my opinion Verratti is of a certain level of quality where some of these concerns should cease to be relevant.
He may choose not to ever play in the PL for certain reasons but it won't be because he'll be "wasted" in it. Nor is it true that he's wasting his career in France.
Like who? How? What level? Which concerns? What reasons?
A deliciously vague and ambiguous post. Not to say pointless.
Mainly Cazorla and Scholes.
One player who could have made a greater impact elsewhere but stayed a one club man is Danielle di Rossi.
Hard to criticise him though, stayed with his boyhood club.
Hard to criticise him though, stayed with his boyhood club.
Similar players such as Scholes in the latter part of his career, Carrick, Alonso and others.
With regards to the rest of your bold points, if you actually read the debate that post was following then none of it would be vague nor ambiguous. Strange reaction.
By replacing Blanc yes. Losing Zlatan is not easy but it allows us to play a different game that may be better suited against the best opposition.So they've improved by losing Zlatan?
I don't understand why top players would go there. They pay a lot of money but so do many other clubs. What is the best that you can achieve there? Win the French league. And who cares about that - nobody. If that is your ceiling, then it is indeed a waste of talent. Players such as Di Maria and Veratti will only ever be spoken about when they're playing in the Champions League or another EURO or World Cup comes around, whereas they could be big stars in England or Spain.
Its up to him, if he likes the city, the club, and doesn't want to leave, he shouldn't leave.
So they've improved by losing Zlatan?
They hired Emery, that alone showed their intent. Then look at their squad additions and as a unit they look more lethal. Most importantly, watch how they play - they are a superior side to the one of last season
Of course, they still have Cavani so all may be hopeless anyway
So they've improved by losing Zlatan?
They've looked better to me when I've seen them play without Zlatan. That isn't to put him down but more a reflection of how they play. With him they always go through him and they look more predictable, without him I think they look more fluid going forward. Played Chelsea off the park when he got sent off at Stamford Bridge, Verratti & Motta made a mockery of Chelsea's midfield in that match.
League title and Champions League knockouts every season what a waste. And the 31 point gap was an anomaly. I doubt something like that happens again.
The arrogance of people suggesting someone at PSG is wasting their time 
So they've improved by losing Zlatan?
it already happened twice if I'm not mistaken; both Inter and Barca won trebbles after they sold Ibra. so...
When you think about it, wouldn't winning the CL with a club like Atletico (or even Milan considering where they are now) be a bigger achievement than winning it with any of the Caf's Big 4 clubs?
Football needs more stars playing for the so-called smaller clubs like what Maradona, Di Canio and Batistuta did.
Football needs more stars playing for the so-called smaller clubs like what Maradona, Di Canio and Batistuta did.
A midfield of Verratti and Pogba would be to good. It just has everything if they got together on the same team it would truly be the most complete midfield ever.
Fair enough. Verratti is my favorite modern day player so if anyone has been offended by my frustration it's only because I'd love to see him play more often.. Fact he got injured before the Euros added to the frustration.
Still praying we can get him one day.
He's playing for PSG, It's not like he's at he's playing for an average club like, Udinese, Lazio, Bilbao, Valencia, Liverpool, Bordeoux, Lille
If Barca, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and the Manchester clubs aren't interested in him then of course he should stay at PSG.
Ever been to Paris? It's awesome.
Not saying it's the reason he's staying, but it's an amazing City. I'd rather be plying my trade there than in Munich for example.
Lots of things come into play. He's 23 years old, a whole career ahead of him. I can't criticise him one bit.
He us the best playmaker CM. Not a goalscorer or an assist maker but will control the flow of the game like anything else. To me we United have a chance of getting him here as long we have Ibra. We should pay whatever it takes to get when he decides to move ( I don't see him staying at PSG for more than three years).
They have extended Veratti's contract twice this year already. He is not going anywhere any time soon. They will do whatever it takes to keep him.
Even if they were, PSG have yet to be pressured into a sale under this management
There no way on earth hes 15 in that picture, looks about 5 or 6
Can we say Kane