Movement was good, some great runs really showed what Kane was missing.
The rest of his game has some big weaknesses though.
The rest of his game has some big weaknesses though.
Is Sterling the best english player at the moment?
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He’s a good player - I would rather Rashford, Grealish and Sancho personally
He was arguably Englands worst player today. I would start Grealish ahead of him in the next game.
He's a worse wide player than Grealish, Rashford, Sancho and Foden IMO. If you're playing against a deep defence and want creativity, Grealish and Sancho are your best options. If you want directness, Rashford and Foden. And then just pick a mixture out of these 4 for any opposition as right or left wingers as you've got 2 of each. Sterling is worse creatively and a worst shooter, as well as being worse on the ball. Good dribbler sure but even that's dropped a lot this season. Think if England are to be successful this tournament that he needs dropping, but not sure it'll happen.
I think he lost a bit of his explosiveness at 26.
And seeing him trying through balls in the end of 2nd half was infuriating. Rashford must be pissed.
And seeing him trying through balls in the end of 2nd half was infuriating. Rashford must be pissed.
Does he hate Shaw?. There were a few times he came back so far that Shaw literally had to stand 1 yard away from him, outside the line, as to not get in his way. We know Sterling can play off FBs so what the feck happened?
Absolutely garbage player. Why did he stay on the pitch? Unbelievable he played 90 minutes and Foden was hauled off.
England are going to keep doing this for Sterling’s whole career. Every time he gets close to being dropped, he’ll pop up with a goal and keep his place.
I didn’t understand the praise on Sunday, goal aside I thought he was ineffective. Take out that goal, which was largely down to the assist, and you get tonight’s performance.
I don’t think Foden and Grealish either side of Kane works, not with this version of Kane anyway, so Southgate will probably stick with him. I also think City can do much better than him too and have no idea why they persist with him.
I didn’t understand the praise on Sunday, goal aside I thought he was ineffective. Take out that goal, which was largely down to the assist, and you get tonight’s performance.
I don’t think Foden and Grealish either side of Kane works, not with this version of Kane anyway, so Southgate will probably stick with him. I also think City can do much better than him too and have no idea why they persist with him.
Selling him short, his run partly made the goal.
And he's been an absolutely vital player for City over the past 5 years. If City can do much better than a wide forward with his stats then God help us
I think he’s massively benefitted from playing under Pep in terms of his goals and most forwards would be getting at least those numbers in his teams.
I’m well aware I probably have a bias against him though.
He should be nowhere near the starting 11. He's gone down quite a bit from his great form before the past year or 2. Doesn't help any of the players around him and he makes so many mistakes on the ball.
I've said it once and I'll say it again. We need this black magic at United that can elevate 8-9 mediocre players to deliver world class performances/output.
I think its quite obvious in Sterling's case that he doesn't score 23, 25 and 31 goals in successive seasons playing in another side. Players like Aguero, KDB, Silva are top players regardless of Pep but Sterling has probably been the biggest beneficiary in the Pep era.
Even with his impressive goal returns, he was known for missing his fair share of chances. He's guaranteed clear cut chances at City that he might not get elsewhere.
And he scored a lot of goals that were simple tap ins from cutbacks, he scored a lot in spite of being still a pretty average finisher. Sterling’s movement is excellent though and is still very good even in this dip in form, we’d love if Martial made as ballsy runs as him. But the problem is the rest of his game just isn’t that good and way off other world class players he’s supposed to be as good as. A good defensive full back, like AWB, can often make him look really limited.
Think he was better at Liverpool anyway, Pep made him much more productive but has kind of ruined him. A complete system player and no more the quick, unpredictable, creative wide forward who was a joy to watch. I can't imagine people really enjoy watching him play.
I'd ask why other wingers in that system haven't matched his output, but I'll just continue to pray we one day get this black magic at United.
TBF Leroy Sane was a brilliant player for City and then has been nothing special at Bayern. City's system is the best possible system for any front 3 player.
This guy owes his career to Pep Guardiola. His technical ability is so inconsistent. Clumsy. He regularly struggles to control the ball when it's played into him and has a penchant for running down blind alleys. What he does have is terrific pace. Due to Guardiola's tactical acumen and the quality of the team he plays for, he often finds himself in really good positions and has a very good goal scoring record. One that paints an incredibly flattering image of his rather average finishing abilities. In another life he could have been Aaron Lennon, Theo Walcott or Nathan Redmond. Credit to him and the coaches who have done wonders with him.
Because everyone in the team clearly has a role. Sane and Bernardo Silva played on the opposite wing in those years and they are more creative players rather than scorers even though they did their fair share of scoring.
I think you're being deliberately obtuse on this matter. Does Sterling score 31 goals in a season for United?
I say Mahrez is doing well, but Pep bench him a lot and keep faith in Sterling.
Walcott was way better than Lennon and Redmond.
What? Good coaching is black magic? No one is claiming City’s squad is full of mediocre players either. We don’t come close to creating the amount of tap ins that City create, it’s laboured and relying on players to beat their man constantly. I wouldn’t fancy Sterling to do that.
The season City got 100 points he was flying. He scored an absolute tonne of his goals in bunches against weaker teams. In fact, looking back, he seems to have a poor record against all the top teams bar Arsenal.
This showed up on my Twitter timeline this morning...
I hope you mean: great coaching and not what I think you mean: when Liverpool had those 3 great seasons - a CL final, a CL win and finally the Premier league some rival fans suggested either undetectable peds or detectable and 'just' legal performance enhancing substances.... Not me, by-the-way, I just think their manager excelled and for a golden period, things just clicked. Couldn't keep it up though (the pressing game) especially in covid-times and with the major injuries last season.
I hope City sell him this summer, he absolutely doesn't deserve a 350k p/w extension. However, wouldn't surprise me if they only receive loan+option offers.
That dive 
Good game from him overall, unlucky not to score in the first minute as well. He linked up with Shaw well, and can see that Shaw appreciates his movement. Good to see him delivering in a major tournament.
Put some respect on his name. Some embarrassing posts in this thread.
Yeah but he's shit. He just scored goals and nothing else. There's a thread for it
Is this even a debate anymore?
The amount of hate from fans about him starting at this tournament, he has been England’s best player by a mile. How is he so underrated he does be class at City? Yeah he misses sitters but he’s class
Goals are overrated to be honest.
It's even more embarrassing reading shit like 3rd best player in the world. He's a good player and nothing more.
Would say he’s second to Grealish, but yeah he is class
Put some respect on his fecking name.
It's obviously Grealish.
He holds onto the ball for too long.
The goal showed him at his best, short burst dribble and release.
The Muller chance at his worst... Dallying on it and getting robbed.
The goal showed him at his best, short burst dribble and release.
The Muller chance at his worst... Dallying on it and getting robbed.
Yeah I agree with that also he has a nack of missing sitters(not at this tournament) but everything else he does is class
He scored but apart from that he didn't do much
Shaw