He is a fan of Ronaldo, Madrid have never been his focus. In fact he rejected Madrid to join Monaco.
Is Mbappe the best french player ever?
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He is a fan of Ronaldo, Madrid have never been his focus. In fact he rejected Madrid to join Monaco.
You say that and there's barely 7 competative teams in the whole of France and your bottom half of the table is league 1 standard in England at best, they're almost semi pro level.
Don't try and act like the French league is something special mate. You're credibility when talking about Spain goes straight out of the window it's garbage. There's teams in the French ligue 1 who get less fans at their ground than non level English teams for comparison.
If he wins the Champions League as the best player to go with a World Cup, hat trick in a final and Golden Boot, nobody should give a shit where he plays week to week, he’s the best in the world. For rating players it all comes down to the Champions League and World Cup/Euros/Copa anyway, otherwise Salah and De Bruyne would win the Ballon d’Or.
Once he got on the scoresheet he was phenomenal. It took me this long to be fully convinced by him but scoring 3 goals and 3 penalties at this stage is having balls of steel. Kane could not do it and he is perhaps the best penalty kick taker in the world.
You can think whatever you want, but you're the one saying Mbappe has to prove himself after he just scored a hat-trick in a WC final and downplaying Ligue 1 as if it's MLS.
The Premier League is not this mythical super league. He doesn't need to play there to cement his legacy or something.
This idea that he's not being tested while with PSG is just beyond stupid and he's playing semi-pro teams there is laughable.
No one's going to care where a player plays week in and week out if they're performing at the highest level of international and club football consistently.
Now you're making a fool of yourself. Funny how you tried to make it look like your were trying to give actual arguments but quickly revealed you're just another PL worshipper.
Needs to leave France.
For him to be considered truly great, he will have to consistently perform at this level in the Champions League knockout stages and win it a few times. Most players don't even win it once, yet he would HAVE to win it multiple times to be considered that highly.
In a top league, fans will be able to tune in every week to watch him. That's where cult followings are built, both from being part of a strong fanbase and also being a treasure to a widely watched league. There is an argument that Mbappe may already be and may have already been the best player in the world, yet he has to wait for a world cup for people to take notice of that, where for most of top players careers people can see it every week.
For him to be considered truly great, he will have to consistently perform at this level in the Champions League knockout stages and win it a few times. Most players don't even win it once, yet he would HAVE to win it multiple times to be considered that highly.
In a top league, fans will be able to tune in every week to watch him. That's where cult followings are built, both from being part of a strong fanbase and also being a treasure to a widely watched league. There is an argument that Mbappe may already be and may have already been the best player in the world, yet he has to wait for a world cup for people to take notice of that, where for most of top players careers people can see it every week.
The one argument that I had for Mbappé leaving PSG and Ligue 1 was in the context of the club he would join not the league. I would love to see Mbappé play for a stable and well oiled club that leaves room for individual talent. Basically prime Real Madrid, United or Bayern.
I wouldn't mind him playing in Italy or La Liga, but lets not act like people watch Ligue 1. I don't watch the Portuguese League or the Eredivisie either.
You're bottom half of the table teams average about 8k fans and have a wage average at about 6k a week mate
Especially when those semi pros are carving nice careers in the PL. We are talking about the likes of Maupay, Boli, Saiss, Sissoko and other average and below average Ligue 1 exports.
In Spain it is. And it's probably a stretch to call it top 6. PL is (unfortunately) a different beast today. Their mid table clubs are being doped by all the foreign owners and their cash flowing in. I mean, you've got West Ham plucking elite talent from Lyon? I mean, sure it's good for them and the PL, but it hardly bodes well for the rest of Europe. As many have stated, it's a Super League symptom.
But back to topic, I don't think I've ever seen Mbappe talk about moving to England, so that's probably a discussion for another day.
Nobody needed the world cup to take notice of that, that's why you already have a thread here comparing him to Henry. Don't join "the world" to your ignorance. Mbappé is FAR more popular than Kevin De Bruyne who only dominated PL for exemple. Or Kane. Or Salah.
Yeah it took this WC for people to realize how good Mbappe is 
I know most of us are United fans, but the Prem bias on here is staggering.
I know most of us are United fans, but the Prem bias on here is staggering.
PSG wouldn't have been able to compete with European giants for his signature without oil money. Indisputable fact.
He probably burnt his bridge to Madrid.
Either he stays in France or moves to prem, his only two logical options at this point in time.
Either he stays in France or moves to prem, his only two logical options at this point in time.
The only time PSG didn't have money was during Colony Capital era, otherwise PSG always had the ability to sign and keep big players.
Once he burst into the game, he was unstoppable and was tearing the Argentinian defence to shreds. I always felt he could cement himself as in that tier just below Ronaldo and Messi, but after tonight's performance in a WC Final, I think with the correct dedication he can put himself up there with the all time greats. I didn't think that before this tournament.
it almost reads like you’re trying to convince yourself this
If that's your takeaway, so be it.
It's really not though. There's others in this thread with similar viewpoints. Are they also trying to convince themselves?
Damn, I make barely half of that, am I a semi pro at my own job?
Not yet, but I don’t see how he won’t be by the time he retires. 12 WC goals by the age of 23 is just disgusting.
A superhuman of a footballer.
A superhuman of a footballer.
He had pictures of CR7, that's it. He's turned them down 3 separate times, and they offered him plenty of money as well. The fact is, it's a much bigger legacy move for him to win a CL with PSG than adding to Real Madrid's collection.
The world cup is where the superstars turn to God.. And Mbappe has a chance to be the household name like Messi, Maradona ..
How many players who haven't won the world cup are. In the god level.. None
Mbappe will play in Psg for 2 -3 years and if they cannot win the CL, he might move to. City or Chelsea or Real and win it there .. Hell he might win another world cup and 1-2 euros too and be the record scorer in the world cup
Legacy for the 20k PSG fans for sure. For the x hundred of million Madrid/Barce/United/Liverpool etc not so much
It's like when City win the league there's zero fecks given. Same if PSG won the CL.
By the time our club will land into a new ownership (expected by March 2023), I can see United making a splash for him as a statement of intent from the new owners. A massive sales pitch of the new Manchester United project will be necessary if anyone hopes to lure him away from Paris.
Also Benrahma, Ait Nouri, Doucoure, Edouard, Mateta, the list goes on.
You forgot the Ligue 2 exports Kante and Mahrez as well.
That doesn't mean they're semi pro. Attendance averages have never guaranteed football quality otherwise the SPL would be full of good teams. You're looking for an angle to criticize the ligue 1 but that's not a valid one IMHO
I'm thinking about two, definitely something that could happen .
City are out of the equation and pool don't have the financial muscle for it.
Yeah I know. Semi pro was a bit harsh but the point still stands the majority of the French league is at a really low level
Mbappe is a great player. Maybe one of the only current players who can make it to 'goat' level I dont know why he would allow that question mark to always be asked of him I'm sure he will move on before long
It's worth repairing surely.
Perez has been a smart cookie, I'm sure he can see at 23 he has to have this guy playing for Madrid and forget what happened before.
You're an idiot if you think there's only 20K fans, since we often outmatch any fans whether we go to Madrid, United, Liverpool, etc. No one cares about your fans, least of all Mbappe. You can keep trying, maybe he'll reject you a 4th time. I'll give a feck if PSG win the CL, and I will be far from alone. Anybody else, I couldn't give less of a feck about, including and especially you.
The list is endless. And to be clear, I'm not suggesting that the PL isn't superior(it is), I'm suggesting that the average and below average oppositions in both leagues are equivalents, because that's the where the PL take their average to below average players. Top Ligue 1 players end up in top PL, La Liga, Serie A or Bundesliga clubs, so on a weekly basis the competition isn't all that different. The difference is during a few games per year which counts but shouldn't be extrapolated to the entirety of the year.
PSG have 64.5 million followers on IG.
Real Madrid have 129 million followers in comparison.
Not bad in comparison for a club that has 20k PSG fans.
I'm very calmly telling you what's up, don't get your feelings hurt over it.Calm down pal
Hey im not hurt mate its you who's going off on a rant I dont give 2 shits about psg or French football im just telling you how it is.
4 years until another world cup i wonder if that French league will be enough to keep Mbappe relevant in the goat conversation!.
There will be no question mark because he WILL move, no PSG fan expect him to finish his carreer in Ligue 1.
But the allegation that he needs to move to be recognized as one or the best player in the world are absurd, he's already regarded as such. This whole "nobody will take Mbappé seriously until he moves to the PL" (I've read it here verbatim) take doesn't make any sense. He's already a ballon d'or contender and could win it like any other player if PSG has a very good CL run.
I agree completely. Although the general quality of the prem is probably slightly higher in comparison to other leagues, it's far too overstated and overrated and the other leagues are underrated in comparison due to this.
Take Tchouameni/Camavinga for example, some people actually think they put their Madrid shirts on and got superpowers even though they were playing for the 3rd and 6th best teams in ligue 1 just the season prior.