Can we sack him now and replace him for the next game?
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Is Gareth Southgate a shiite England manager?
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Fecking Henderson? Seriously?
How can anyone who knows anything about football think he is anything other than a shit manager?
Yes, yes he is.
Yes, he is so crap, but I bet we will just appoint another negative manager like England always do.
It seems ridiculous that these players play in the fastest league and play so fricking slowly at international level. Appoint a positive manager for once.
We would have got the same results in the past tournaments whether he was manager or not.
Not picking Foden is nuts. Does he think he knows more than Guardiola?
It seems ridiculous that these players play in the fastest league and play so fricking slowly at international level. Appoint a positive manager for once.
We would have got the same results in the past tournaments whether he was manager or not.
Not picking Foden is nuts. Does he think he knows more than Guardiola?
Only used 3 subs with the talent and fresh legs on the bench. The knob
No, he’s smart. He want to keep his options open. If France wins group D and Netherland doesn’t win group B, it might be better to finish second…
One match closer to him being gone 
One match closer to him being gone
Nar, he’ll draw it. Get lucky in next round and the FA will be delighted with him.
He's too predictable, it was odds on that he would keep the same team, so usa seemed to concentrate on Trippier.
Pressing was poor, Mount and Sterling didn't show much, Bellingham seemed to drift out the game, so not surprised to see Henderson come on to stabilise midfield, although it reduced our attacking abilities.
Pressing was poor, Mount and Sterling didn't show much, Bellingham seemed to drift out the game, so not surprised to see Henderson come on to stabilise midfield, although it reduced our attacking abilities.
It's a shame a golden generation of talent wasted under this timid coach. I won't call him shit buthe definitely is not a good coach.
They're top of their group and have the mighty Qatar next. I think they're probably finishing first.
Finishing second also puts England on Brazil and Spain's side of the draw.
He's just a shite manager in general.
How the feck can you leave Mount on and not bring Foden on. Henderson coming on, just so negative. Hell any other manager would have removed Kane and put Rashford or Wilson up front.
Certainly sucks any joy out of watching England, dull as dishwater.
Sounds like England still go through even if they lose 3-0?
Southgate proves to me, that all that matters in life is luck. What an uninspiring, timid manager.
It’s a shame, such a bunch of talented players but all their skills are getting wasted.
It’s a shame, such a bunch of talented players but all their skills are getting wasted.
There is definitely an argument that he is doing what should be done in tournament football. Frustrating cautious, but lose tonight and pressure is on.
I still think England fans have the wrong perspective about their team too. Overrating the quality of players in the extreme.
Center backs are extremely average, starting full backs are just ok, and the midfield, while tenacious, is light years behind the likes of Spain in terms of technical ability.
His tournament results up to this point have been very good and if he makes a semi-final again, he will be the English manager with the best overall record.
I understand the frustration at so much caution, but that is tournament football. Add to that the fact that he simply doesn’t have the team that the fans seem to think he has.
I still think England fans have the wrong perspective about their team too. Overrating the quality of players in the extreme.
Center backs are extremely average, starting full backs are just ok, and the midfield, while tenacious, is light years behind the likes of Spain in terms of technical ability.
His tournament results up to this point have been very good and if he makes a semi-final again, he will be the English manager with the best overall record.
I understand the frustration at so much caution, but that is tournament football. Add to that the fact that he simply doesn’t have the team that the fans seem to think he has.
When was he not?
Hard to call him shit with recent tournament finishes but for sure he is a negative and cowardly manager who makes me consider watching the leaves on the tree outside my house sway in the wind as a more enjoyable use of time than watching his shit on a stick football.
Every United fan would tell you Rashford is shocking on the right. Does Southgate not even know this. That's the sort of decision that won't play out well when you need it to later on in tournaments
I don't know if he's shiite but he's mediocre, over cautious and unimaginative. And too loyal to certain players who do not perform.
"I'm so pleased with the way we built from the back"
Is Gareth on something?
Is Gareth on something?
It’s 4 am in Thailand and I think I should sleep and not watch this negative performance/football, especially from attackers. Harry( not Kane) is the best player in England's team today. I probably understand his point that he wants a draw and not losing first, I’m sure he will play an attacking game against Wales. This is a tournament football when the result is the most important thing and playing safe and cautious is probably understandable. World Cup is a tournament that gets acceptable results by playing negative football and defense first is one of the effective methods that have been used for over 70 years.
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You could only laugh when you saw him bringing on Jordan fecking Henderson in the 2nd half.
He's so negative.
He's so negative.
One centre half is Guardiola’s first choice defender, as for the full backs, Trent is just an afterthought, a player voted in the UEFA team of the year for 2019 and CL team of the season in 2022.
The team looks average because Southgate picks an average team.
Well, he got them to semi-final in 2018 which is England's best result apart from winning the WC back in 1966. Also last year went all the way to final of Euros and only lost on penalties, which is England's best result in that competition ever. I get why fans are frustrated but one day Southgate will leave his role and be proud of how he done. Especially if England can go far again on this tournament.
An exact replica of Solskjaer. Pragmatic manager but more importantly poor coaching shows in the inability to break the opposition team down. England will excel with space behind opposition defence but they will struggle when there's two banks of four in the opposition half.
They are playing the USA, though, not Spain. This team should have control in a match like this, but fail to do so because they do not press nor do they push up the pitch. This is a major reason why the midfield cannot control possession because they are too far back. This creates a large distance between the central midfielders and forward line, which, in turn, forces Kane to drop deeper to get possession.
He also does not play the players who are in better form: both Foden and Rashford should be getting in over Sterling and Mount.
It is nowhere near a golden generation. There is probably one world class footballer in there (Kane) with Foden arguably on his way to reaching that tier.
England have been at a World Cup with Terry, Ferdinand, Cole, Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Owen, Carrick, Campbell, Carragher all in the same squad.
This isn’t even close to a golden generation. He is boring, but I really do think people are being unfair to Southgate.
I still shudder at the thought that he was mentioned a few times in regards to managing us..!
The USA are very well organized though and have good, technical players. We have already seen Germany and Argentina get beaten by lesser teams and that won’t be the last of the shocks.
These mid-tiers teams are getting better and better and they can beat anyone on their day.
As i said in the other thread I think Southgate has had some very good luck in the draws and it seems cruel to say that but it's true. His best results were against Germany and Denmark (and with all due respect, man for man, Denmark are not England's class). I think if they meet France, Spain or Brazil or a really good side they get beat.
Who is over rating the team? The defense has never been poorer in the last 20 years. The midfield lacks depth and we have some of the most inconsistent wide players in World football.
Without injuries and playing a full strength side, we should be competing to win every competition. Spain and Germany have declined, they are not insurmountable, they’re definitely beatable unlike previous tournament sides. Brazil are always flawed and Portugal and Argentina? Again, nothing England couldn’t compete with on any given day. That’s a Rafa Facht. There is no stand out side.
He is complete junk. Yes, we did OK in the past 2 tournaments but that was in spite of Southgate, not because of him.
He's a lower league level manager at best.
He's a lower league level manager at best.
He definitely has something against Foden. He got defensive then when asked why he wasn’t playing.
England will qualify for the next round, beat Ecuador on penalties and then be humbled by France.
He is very clearly the 3rd CB at City and plays in a lot of games where his team completely dominates the ball. He won’t start in the business end of the season if the other two are fit.
He isn’t a top tier center back and I think you would struggle to find anyone putting him in that bracket.
Trent has been laughably bad this season, and I don’t think many coaches would be starting him in tournament football, where one mistake has you potentially facing elimination.
Agree on that, don't fancy England to beat any of those if they were to play against them.
Bit of Solskjaer about him in that he’s overperformed in some competitions without being able to take the team to the next level