ive said this before, he wasn't the goal machine he is now for us but he was a more exciting player to watch
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You mean the main man? that i'd agree with. Thought you meant he wouldn't be one of the key players in those sides.
Fact is he could've left but he didn't. He was here when everything was rosy and we played wonderful football and hes been here during the bad times too when this went south.
Yes he is a legend at both clubs. The only comparable example I can think of is Puskas at Honved and Real Madrid, and yes no doubt he is a legend at both too.
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Three great seasons doesn't suit the criteria I have for a legend of a particular club. Yes I include Ronaldinho from my own club in that too. For a player to be regarded as a legend, I believe longevity at that club has to accompany great performances. Remember the guy was desperate to leave United for Madrid twice before he eventfully did leave and is probably synonymous with them more so than at United.
He left in a bad way, if he left at 28/29 to go and do other things, no one would even question it. Think about it, I dont know how Arsenal fans would look back to Henry if he left then before be hit his speak to go to Barcelona.
The guy kicked up a fuss to leave us. We had to beg him 3 summers in a row to stay with us - funny enough those 3 following seasons were his best years. That left a bad taste in my mouth and I cant call him a legend because of it. People don't remember now, but he didn't celebrate goals etc for the majority of the 08/09 season.
The guy kicked up a fuss to leave us. We had to beg him 3 summers in a row to stay with us - funny enough those 3 following seasons were his best years. That left a bad taste in my mouth and I cant call him a legend because of it. People don't remember now, but he didn't celebrate goals etc for the majority of the 08/09 season.
Anyone with a basic knowledge of the Club's history would include Ronnie in their 'All Time United Eleven' on his 2008 performances alone. So yeah! United Legend without a doubt!
The fact 'Viva Ronaldo' is still sung with such pride by those that really matter (Match going Reds) speaks volumes in my humble opinion.
The fact 'Viva Ronaldo' is still sung with such pride by those that really matter (Match going Reds) speaks volumes in my humble opinion.
My understanding is that he was professional about leaving in that Ferguson asked him for one more season and he agreed, and they both stuck to the agreement.
I dont know if he or rooney are legends, its not exactly a specific. easily identifiable characteristic.
Both are a pretty big part of our history and should be remembered in the same manner that best, law and edwards are though.
(and irwin and robson and cantona and ...)
Both are a pretty big part of our history and should be remembered in the same manner that best, law and edwards are though.
(and irwin and robson and cantona and ...)
This.
He was a great player but wasn't here long enough. Also since leaving us, the way he talks seems like United was just a stepping stone for him and not a club that he adores or has a great connection with. After retiring, I don't see him having any links with us.
Who made this rule up?
See, I can understand this... when the player has made a clear step up, a natural progression.
For example, I remember looking through some Crystal Palace forums after they won promotion and Zaha-United had been conformed.
Many of them said something along the lines of 'He's a legend, and he's won us promotion. He'll be a world beater there. But he'll always be Palace at heart, and we can take pride when he's doing it at the top level'
I can just about understand them feeling parental pride and calling him a legend. I can understand them feeling indirect pride if/when he has a stellar career after leaving their club.
But United fans for Ronaldo? Where's the clear step up when he joined Madrid? Where was his desire to make United the main chapter of his career*? He wasn't forced to chase his ambitions elsewhere. I can't understand using his Madrid achievements as further support to calling him a legend.
*Club 2 being the main chapter isn't an issue in itself, however the clear desire to make club 2 the main chapter (leaving as soon as entering peak - to a club who aren't of bigger stature) is the issue.
As is playing, by far, the best football almost solely at club 2.
Three seasons yes but what he achieved in three seasons would have taken Rooney seven or eight to tie. So if Rooney is a United legend, sure as hell Ronaldo is one as well.
When your name is still being sung by the supporters in the stands, years after leaving United, you're pretty much a United legend
Yes for me he is a legend. I remember being a 13 year old idiot who turned the Fulham away game off and sat on the stairs sad as I didn't think we could win it at 1-1 and thought Chelsea were gonna get the third title in a row. But no Ronaldo did an amazing run and scored. He will always be a legend for that
Of course he is.. Was the best player in the world when he played for us!
Neville over Ronaldo...hmm. Neville was a solid decent RB (easily replaced) while Ronaldo was a match winner (at often decisive moments like Fulham away)
Then why do we still sing a song to his name? He left 6 years ago.
He led us to the title in 2007. Many people thought Chelsea were gonna steam roll us that year with Shevchenko and Ballack but Ronaldo fecked them all. Ronaldo is a fecking huge legend for me....god it's such a shame he left
Of course not. But you can give the benefit of the doubt to players who make a move to bigger clubs. They left because their ambitions couldn't be matched at club 1. They may well have stayed had they been able to achieve things at club 1.
Ronaldo could have achieved it all at United. But he decided he wanted Madrid to be the main part of his career, and that their records were better to break than United's. It's a two way thing, for me. The desire has to be there from the player.
Had Ronaldo given two/three more peak seasons to United? I'd see a guy who had a desire to give his best football to two sets of fans (which was possible), I'd be calling him a legend.
I cannot understand people oblivious to this fact
At a time where it seemed Chelsea were gonna dominate the english league...yeah Ronaldo deserves respect for pulling us above them. At the time I thought the club I supported was fecked and Ronaldo changed all of that....He's a big hero for me despite his desire to go to Madrid.
Edit - Also his 2006/2007 performance is the best I've seen in my time supporting United.
That's fair enough. After all, the term legend is very subjective. No doubt Ronaldo played a big part in United winning the title back, how big of a role did Rooney play in that too? It'd be interesting to see a comparison of Rooney's season in 2006-07 in comparison to Ronaldo.
Because he won us titles? Because he was the main catalyst for those titles? WTF
Without him...well I can't imagine us having a good time
what did the Romans actually do for us?
The first title I saw was 06-07 so I have a huge respect to Ronaldo for delivering that
If my memory is correct I think Ronaldo was the main player while Rooney was the background guy in those years
Edit - Despite how many years Rooney has played for United I still have Ronaldo above him. Rooney has been a cnutish figure which I have wished we would have gotten rid of by now. Absolute leach
Reas the thread and you'll find out.
Nah, no player who fecks off and goes on to become a better player somewhere else is a United legend. Arguably our best player since Best, but not a legend. You have to have some affinity with the club, which is why I think a lot of people struggle with calling Rooney a legend where as someone else Evra, Neville, Solskjaer or Cantona are far easier despite being inferior players.
Is the best if not second best player to ever play for us but he's not a club legend?
6 years later and in our next match we still hear his name being sung.
For me a legend is someone who defines an era the kind of player we will be talking about for the next 100 years. Gary Neville? Really. Ronaldo will be the one we tell our kids about.
6 years later and in our next match we still hear his name being sung.
For me a legend is someone who defines an era the kind of player we will be talking about for the next 100 years. Gary Neville? Really. Ronaldo will be the one we tell our kids about.
His argument was that he won every club and individual honor there is to be won at United, which is true. Lifting Real out of their misery at that time was probably a bigger challenge for him, which you cannot argue against and he gave them the league, 10th European cup and won the ballon d'or once again. I think he's a legend at both clubs.
I'd say he is probably the best player we ever had, and we've enjoyed great success during his time with us, when he was also the best player in the world. The way he talked us up with respect every time does help to reinforce his legendary status. But thing is he is bigger legend for Real Madrid than for us, his best/peak years are with Real.
But for me he is still a legend. Definitely among the top 10.
But for me he is still a legend. Definitely among the top 10.
Good post. If you don't consider Ronaldo to be a club legend you're going to be waiting a long time for another one to come along.
Rooney asked to leave, but at the end he stayed and has been for a 11 years and gave us his best years. Ronaldo played his best football at Real Madrid.
Either way, I don't personally put as much as emphasis on trophies, goals and assists into this as you are. For me, Gary Neville is a bigger legend than Rooney or Ronaldo and I don't personally think they are, for me. Especially not Ronaldo. Not for this club, at least.
WOT?! This isn't Saha we're talking about, this is Cristiano fing Ronaldo!
For me, not a 'legend', though one of the best to have played here. Can't really call anyone who leaves a club before their peak a legend., and (imho) when most people think of Ronny, they think of Madrid.
No he's not
If he had stayed a few extra seasons maybe. I know he would have smashed that goals record anyways,
Legend, probably not. He did give his peak years to Real Madrid and basically sacked us off so...
There was also a few games, in his last season, where he quite clearly wasn't arsed
Legend, probably not. He did give his peak years to Real Madrid and basically sacked us off so...
There was also a few games, in his last season, where he quite clearly wasn't arsed
He's a Real Madrid legend no doubt
Usually i'd say longevity would be among the criteria I would have for club legends but I think Ronaldo deserves to be an exception. It is arguable that his best years were with Madrid but even when he was at United he was the best player in the world at one point in time, you cant say that about any of our other legends from the 90s until now.
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