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Chat, am I cooked? - Casemiro before the game
He has zero passing options other than give it back ot any of the CBs, which he honestly should have done here. Everyone is running away from the ball, the two midfieders are hiding behind Liverpools players, Dalot is way too high. You could argue that Mazraoui relatively free, but by Diaz got enough speed to cut the pass.The tactics have nothing to do with him making that lazy pass before the first goal. His performance yesterday was on him.
I’m not defending EtH’s tactics here but how do you see that pic and say he has no passing options except backwards? There’s the easier and more obvious ball out to the right back & then the other pass who puts us into a good position is floating one out wide and over to either the left back or Rashford out wide left. Then liverpools press is beaten and they’re retreating. I’d expect someone of Casemiro’s calibre to play that pass.He has zero passing options other than give it back ot any of the CBs, which he honestly should have done here. Everyone is running away from the ball, the two midfieders are hiding behind Liverpools players, Dalot is way too high. You could argue that Mazraoui relatively free, but by Diaz got enough speed to cut the pass.
The team shape is absolutely awful.
Casemiro's in on the decline and was shit against Liverpool but anyone thinking that this got nothing with Ten Hag's set-ups and how they leave the midfielders utterly exposed, should think again. He reverted back to his basketball tactics as soon as his job was safe again. There's literally none of your players in his system that looks remotely good.
He has zero passing options other than give it back ot any of the CBs, which he honestly should have done here. Everyone is running away from the ball, the two midfieders are hiding behind Liverpools players, Dalot is way too high. You could argue that Mazraoui relatively free, but by Diaz got enough speed to cut the pass.
The team shape is absolutely awful.
Casemiro's in on the decline and was shit against Liverpool but anyone thinking that this got nothing with Ten Hag's set-ups and how they leave the midfielders utterly exposed, should think again. He reverted back to his basketball tactics as soon as his job was safe again. There's literally none of your players in his system that looks remotely good.
This is the second season in a row that's failed to materialise. A lot of people seem to have banished the fact that he was shite in the second half of his debut season from their memory, but I certainly still remember the excuses about him being "tired" and how it wasn't his fault because the entire team was struggling and that he'd be back with a vengeance after the summer break. Then last season happened. He's been awful for a solid 18 months. At some point you have to accept that this is just his level now, and that signing a 30 year old Real Madrid cast-off on astronomical wages has been a disaster.
I don't see the passing option to Mazraoui as a safe one, Diaz is way too close to my liking, but that's just me. Any pass to the left, even less. Unless hoof and pray is the way to go. I'm amazed to see how far from each other players are and how high the FBs are.I’m not defending EtH’s tactics here but how do you see that pic and say he has no passing options except backwards? There’s the easier and more obvious ball out to the right back & then the other pass who puts us into a good position is floating one out wide and over to either the left back or Rashford out wide left. Then liverpools press is beaten and they’re retreating. Any professional footballer should be able to play that floated pass out wide, IMO.
Part of that reckless play from Casemiro is the huge gaps left in midfield and how much ground he’s asked to cover. We’re failing to play to Casemiro’s strengths and the argument that he’s finished at 32 is ridiculous. Get in a better manager, play 3 in midfield and Casemiro will look much better.I'm not defender of Ten Hag, but I very much doubt his instructions to Casemiro pre-game include making reckless slide tackles and picking up bookings.
Yeah we can agree to disagree on those passing options, no real biggie, we just see it differently. I remember watching as it happened, and I was fuming at Casemiro for playing the worse bloody pass imaginable in that situation.I don't see the passing option to Mazraoui as a safe one, Diaz is way too close to my liking, but that's just me. Any pass to the left, even less. Unless hoof and pray is the way to go. I'm amazed to see how far from each other players are and how high the FBs are.
In two minutes, Arne Slot perfectly explained Ten Hag's style weaknesses and how Liverpool methodically dismantled his system. And that's a manager who got his team yesterday, and signed one outfield player.
That not to excuse Casemiro's performance, he was simply awful,
But people putting it all on him and saying he's cooked, can't see the wood for the trees. He was (rightly) hooked at half-time and you were still terrible. It should've been 5 or 6-0.
Ugarte better be Superman because the amount of hope put on him to save the midfield is unreal and completely unreasonable.
Part of that reckless play from Casemiro is the huge gaps left in midfield and how much ground he’s asked to cover. We’re failing to play to Casemiro’s strengths and the argument that he’s finished at 32 is ridiculous. Get in a better manager, play 3 in midfield and Casemiro will look much better.
Cooked, cooking, mid, levels….Twitter has a lot to answer for.Why do you have to say "cooked" like some 18 year old on Twitter
Why do you have to say "cooked" like some 18 year old on Twitter
Ahh, twitter, the hip trendy social media platform that all the kids use.Cooked, cooking, mid, levels….Twitter has a lot to answer for.
No problem. Everyone is free to draw their conclusions, and as you said it doesn't change the fact that Casemiro made the worst possible choice.Yeah we can agree to disagree on those passing options, no real biggie, we just see it differently. I remember watching as it happened, and I was fuming at Casemiro for playing the worse bloody pass imaginable in that situation.
The rest of your post I kind of agree with, though I do think there’s a measure of Casemiro being past his prime. Maybe he still has the odd performance in him, but I don’t see him sustaining any sort of elite level over a full season - not in the PL anyway. And yeah, EtH’s tactics really doesn’t do him (or any other midfielder really) any favors.
I don't see the passing option to Mazraoui as a safe one, Diaz is way too close to my liking, but that's just me. Any pass to the left, even less. Unless hoof and pray is the way to go. I'm amazed to see how far from each other players are and how high the FBs are.
In two minutes, Arne Slot perfectly explained Ten Hag's style weaknesses and how Liverpool methodically dismantled his system. And that's a manager who got his team yesterday, and signed one outfield player.
Yeah, from what i recall on here, he actually started the season ok - he was good against Fulham from all accounts. Your declining comment is spot on and my opinion is that his body won't allow him to play a ultra high pressing system - which is sort of what we're trying to achieve. He doesn't have the legs or recovery pace for it. Not that EtH' is blame free in any of this - we all know his tactics have been shite.No problem. Everyone is free to draw their conclusions, and as you said it doesn't change the fact that Casemiro made the worst possible choice.
Casemiro is declining, but I'm fairly certain that he still could do a job for you in a system that doesn't leave every single midfielder hanging out to dry.
The pass to the RB is piss easy.He has zero passing options other than give it back ot any of the CBs, which he honestly should have done here. Everyone is running away from the ball, the two midfieders are hiding behind Liverpools players, Dalot is way too high. You could argue that Mazraoui relatively free, but by Diaz got enough speed to cut the pass.
The team shape is absolutely awful.
Casemiro's in on the decline and was shit against Liverpool but anyone thinking that this got nothing with Ten Hag's set-ups and how they leave the midfielders utterly exposed, should think again. He reverted back to his basketball tactics as soon as his job was safe again. There's literally none of your players in his system that looks remotely good.
No it isn't it would be a difficult pass in fact. The ball is coming to him from bruno from forward position and to his left. Casemiro is moving forward, at that point it's extremely difficult to move towards the ball, open his body to his right (and as the ball is coming from his left it would be from blindside), the other option would be to try that pass with the outside of the boot, but at that distance it's anything but easy and there's not a few players that would make it.The pass to the RB is piss easy.