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Don't think his movements were top secret:
He might be right here, but everything that journalist writes on Iran and Hezbollah should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Don't think his movements were top secret:
Cheers man, much appreciated.Enjoy Jordan, it’s a great country to visit as a tourist and it’s extremely unlikely that the brewing conflict will spill over there.
Agreed. I should have noted that.He might be right here, but everything that journalist writes on Iran and Hezbollah should be taken with a pinch of salt.
This is so accurate.
You can't make this shit up- just was told by folks that there are stories that some stores around the country ran out of bread and other supplies bc people are worried about the Iran retaliation. Cold War v2 here we come.
It's America, where paranoia and fear mongering are as much part of the society as anything. Are you surprised?They think Iran will invade the US?
Here most of the people have no idea who's the guy US killed and they don't even know US made that attack. In the beginning I though the American people were ignorant but 30 years later I realized they are both ignorant and they don't give a shit what's happening outside the country.It's America, where paranoia and fear mongering are as much part of the society as anything. Are you surprised?
You can't make this shit up- just was told by folks that there are stories that some stores around the country ran out of bread and other supplies bc people are worried about the Iran retaliation. Cold War v2 here we come.
Donate your earnings to Bernie and it's like watching your sins be washed away.I was thinking about doing the same. What have we become, lads? Thinking about making profit off of a potential conflict that could affect thousands if not millions. I know this is just how the game is played, but god damn...
Most concrete example I've heard and this is coming straight from someone who s from there is Flint, MI. In other words - considering the economics there many of them should be saving their money rather than buying out grocery stores. Proof though that the fear mongering works.Where was this supposedly happening?
The only reason any stores would run out of bread right now would be weather.
Was this not the guy behind the Benghazi attack?
Was this not the guy behind the Benghazi attack?
Id wager he had it coming
Gotta protect the Saudis ammirite?No.
And that there is the issue. The US will attempt to convince everyone that Iran is the sole sponsor of terrorism, they're not even the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the region.
Best case for who?
The crux of this is that the Iranian govt wants nukes and is prepared to do what ever it takes to get them.
The rest of the world don't want Iran to have nukes.
The USA is prepared to hold sanctions on Iran until it gives up its aim to have nukes and thinks it can force the issue economically.
The Iranian govt is in trouble for the first time domestically because the economic hardship is forcing a wedge between it leadership and the people who are paying the cost of its desire to have nukes and oppose the US by spending billions on proxy forces across the middle east.
When sanction go on the US got the blame but as the economic damage mounts it is inevitable that people question whether its all worth it to them. The Iranian govt is in a bind if they can't escalate this further they are in danger of falling, you can't keep shooting thousands of people to stay in power and expect to remain popular unless you can show your external policy is working. So they attack Saudi's oil facilities and the US embassy.
So the US kill the two most senior generals who made that decision.
Best out come for the US is the Iranian regime falls.
Best outcome for Iran is US overreach and ends up changing its policy following massive casualties because that is the only way they will change their policy on Iranian nukes.
Best outcome for the rest of the world depends on whether you could live with several nuclear powers in the middle east or not.
Matching Zee News!
I mean, anyone who has expectations of journalistic integrity at the New York Post needs their head examined.
Worst piece of paper on the east coast.
Yep, the country that serves as the ideological backbone to the likes of ISIS and Al Qaeda, as well as bearing the 9/11 hijackers.Gotta protect the Saudis ammirite?
No.
And that there is the issue. The US will attempt to convince everyone that Iran is the sole sponsor of terrorism, they're not even the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the region.
Turkey, Qatar, the US itself. The list goes on and on.Its of course S.Arabia and Israel.
He definitely had other options. He could’ve targeted specific Iranian points of interest in Iraq for example.Given the actions this administration has taken over the past few years, negotiation has been made impossible. Let’s assume he did organise the assault on the US embassy, Trump, because of his own policy and actions, didn’t leave himself any other options. In the end, this was a predictable escalation because the actions over the last few years left few other avenues.
We should really be focusing on the complete shambles of US foreign policy since Trump took office which has built up to this. It’s an act of ignorance entirely of his own making.
The issue is America and it’s voters is so partisan, it makes our divide over Brexit look insignificant. No matter what Trump does, it won’t actually shock any significant amount of people.
Turkey, Qatar, the US itself. The list goes on and on.
The US would be running out of drones if they were serious about taking out terror-sponsoring threats.
Which side is China going to take if a war does break out.
betcha the Saudis were kept aware too so they could get their royal family out of danger zones.Gotta protect the Saudis ammirite?
Well if Obama didn't sit on his ass on 9/11 when Saddam was bombing the twin towers Iran wouldn't have a problem. feck, I'm done with Republicans, I cant even mock them without my blood boiling. Maybe they should be labeled as a terrorist organization.Yep, the country that serves as the ideological backbone to the likes of ISIS and Al Qaeda, as well as bearing the 9/11 hijackers.
Nope, its all aboutIraqIran.
Which side is China going to take if a war does break out.
He definitely had other options. He could’ve targeted specific Iranian points of interest in Iraq for example.
This is a clear tactic, the US will go after those dishing out the orders.
JPRouve is right though; they're on their side.Neither. They're happy to ruffle America's feathers on a few things but they dont want a full on conflict with them.
JPRouve is right though; they're on their side.
They're playing the long game so are quite happy to do whatever, including nothing, so long as it fits with their long term plan.
They'll loan money/buy bonds all day long and the US can bankrupt themselves in expensive and ill-advised ventures.