I really, really like Ojha. Not as talented as others but he keeps his line in check and his eco rate is pretty good. Keeps the pressure on batsman so that Ashwin keeps taking wickets. No wonder Ashwin likes him so much.
India vs England
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Oh! The uninitiated!
I guess you haven't got the memo on how good this England bowling is in Indian subcontinent. The exploits of the great plunderers in Anderson and Broad seems to have eluded you.
You need to read and learn...go back a couple of pages....read and learn, Son.
You need two seam bowlers for the variety, and in case one breaks down. He would be very important if England forms a good partnership and we need someone to break it. Yadav can generate some decent pace and would prove to be an asset on the fourth and the fifth days when the ball starts keeping really low. Plus, on such a rough wicket the ball should start reversing very soon and he would help polish off the tail. We also have Yuvraj and Sehwag in case we need to give spinners a break.
I'd really love us to pick our best 4 bowlers for conditions.
Which in this case are Anderson/Finn/Swann/Monty.
Unfortunately, because Broad is so senior Finn is going to miss out, despite already being a better bowler.
Which in this case are Anderson/Finn/Swann/Monty.
Unfortunately, because Broad is so senior Finn is going to miss out, despite already being a better bowler.
The injury concern with Broad might help. That looks a much better bowling combination. Monty has done well against the Indians, hasn't he?
England should also look at another option to Patel. I would bolster the team with another batter. Isn't Eoin Morgan a good player against spin bowling?
England should also look at another option to Patel. I would bolster the team with another batter. Isn't Eoin Morgan a good player against spin bowling?
Nah, no need to drop Patel yet. He's as good a player of spin as we have, and Morgan was horrific against it in the UAE (he's a very good player of it in one day and T20 cricket, but his unorthodoxy is just going to get him out more often than not in Tests) and Patel is useful with the ball, although he should only be used sparingly on these pitches and against these batsmen rather than as a second spinner.
As for the criticisms of Panesar early on, didn't he outperform Swann in UAE if memory serves.
Oh! The uninitiated!
I guess you haven't got the memo on how good this England bowling is in Indian subcontinent. The exploits of the great plunderers in Anderson and Broad seems to have eluded you.
You need to read and learn...go back a couple of pages....read and learn, Son.
I don't get it. They bowled badly in this innings. How can you judge how they bowled against Pakistan and Sri Lanka without watching a single ball they bowled?
And you go on and talk about Panesar's good record against India(average of 52) and about Morgan's exploits against spin -- he's super ordinary. You clearly NEVER watch cricket outside a few India matches.
It's like a severe case of stopped clocks being right and crowing about it.
Broad in the sub-continent earlier this year bowled late 80s. His pace has dropped -- possibly due to a niggle he's carrying -- and pace is very integral to them succeeding here.
I'm astounded by the confidence of someone who didn't watch a single ball and preaches.
What about all the people like Andy Bull, Dileep Premachandran, Mike Selvey(who actually watch cricket) and write about how Anderson and Broad bowled well in the sub-continent last year?
Seriously. The nerve of you to not watch a single ball and talk.. unbelievable.
It's obvious Broad is carrying an injury right now. He was bowling in his 120's right now. Also, there's no way that a keeper stands up to a fully fit Broad.
Your useless and of course butt hurt.
Did you miss the question marks? Or do you have trouble reading in general?
The fact is that I told you that Anderson and Broad are going to be ordinary on Indian pitches. Which you took great pleasure in rebutting.
Anyways as I promised, I'll wait for the series to end before my "I told you so" posts with the intent of mocking you.
Bye!
Did you miss the question marks? Or do you have trouble reading in general?
The fact is that I told you that Anderson and Broad are going to be ordinary on Indian pitches. Which you took great pleasure in rebutting.
Anyways as I promised, I'll wait for the series to end before my "I told you so" posts with the intent of mocking you.
Bye!
'butt hurt'? Are you 12?
Just answer this one question:
Did you watch more than 5 overs of England playing Pakistan or Sri Lanka?
Oh, another question:
Do you think Andy Bull, Dileep Premachandran, Mike Selvey, Michael Atherton, Nasser Hussein are all wrong about Anderson and Broad's ability to bowl on Asian pitches?
Oh! The uninitiated!
I guess you haven't got the memo on how good this England bowling is in Indian subcontinent. The exploits of the great plunderers in Anderson and Broad seems to have eluded you.
You need to read and learn...go back a couple of pages....read and learn, Son.
My head hurts.
I don't care what the pundits say but Anderson is an average bowler in conditions that don't suit him. He will have a one good day and two bad ones.
"Pundits" hardly know any better than you, me or the ordinary Joe.
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Zing: I apologize for calling you useless. I am usually not in name calling and think it's pathetic to do that on an internet forum. You just annoy me so I am going to put you on ignore for everyone's good.
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Zing: I apologize for calling you useless. I am usually not in name calling and think it's pathetic to do that on an internet forum. You just annoy me so I am going to put you on ignore for everyone's good.
Well this is fun isn't it?
Cricket or the squabbling?
Aye, just as Sehwag is a FTB.
England are really useless in these conditions. ATM this lot are not equipped to play there.
To be fair, England have always failed in those conditions. Prior to neutral umpires being introduced their inability was generally blamed on umpiring bias in that part of the world.
England have done OK in the recent past. There was a drawn series in India when Cook made his debut.
No doubt England have never been good in the subcontinent but certainly they didn't seem to be as inept as this lot seem to be.
England are mega shit at playing spin, they exacerbate the difficulty mentally.
Having checked on Google England have historically won 4 test series in India. England don't have such a bad record as I thought. There has been a total 13 series in India - India has won 6, England 4, and 3 have been Drawn. Recent past has actually been worse for England.
One of them was a one match series.
India has been near brilliant at home the past two decades. Have only lost two series at home during that period, once each to SA and Australia.
Oh! Ian what were you doing!
Terrible terrible cricket. 69-5. If these fools get anything from this test series, Indians should stop playing altogether.
Terrible terrible cricket. 69-5. If these fools get anything from this test series, Indians should stop playing altogether.
Nasser Hussain went to my school. I was 11 when he was 18, in the upper sixth.
When was the last one? I don't think they have won a series here since the 80s
Do England not practise against Swann or what?
84/85 was the last time they beat India in India.
Broad's made it look like a simple pitch in the matter of 10-15 deliveries.
I wasn't being serious on dropping Yadav...
Knowing Indias history of bowling tailenders, watch Broad and Prior share a hundred run partnership.
Thought that was not out in real time. Missed the replay.
I would like to see Monty and Finn play, purely because I am sick of seeing England bat till #11.
And this one was out, Aleem Dar balancing things out..
They sent fecking Swann at no. 11?
You really can't rest easy with them.
You really can't rest easy with them.
Don't know what India would do but I wouldn't follow on. With the weather as good it is I would rather bat for another 150 runs while the pitch is still good. Give the bowlers a rest and Gambhi-Sehwag some more batting practice.
Well done.. that'll be the follow on then..
Follow on it is then...
Edit: On another note-
Who is more inept?
(1) Indians against swing or bounce
(2) English against spin
Edit: On another note-
Who is more inept?
(1) Indians against swing or bounce
(2) English against spin
4 tests of watching England play spin like this is awful. I am already bored of this.