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Another new rule for this Demonetization jumla.
Mobs Lock Up Bankers Ahead Of Pay Day In Cash Crunch.
"In a Mumbai suburb, a branch of the nation's largest lender, State Bank of India, was starting the day with about 600,000 rupees of cash that will run out in about an hour, compared with the 1.5 million they'd typically have, the manager said.
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/mobs...shless-india-1632130?pfrom=home-lateststories
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-not-happen/story-P7cNzEC9yYSdnsCWyVwvsL.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ks-run-short-of-cash/articleshow/55695919.cms
http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...currency-supplies-plummet/article16727240.ece
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The version I am talking about is for inter personal banking. One of the biggest opposers of this demonetisation have been daily vendors who have no other option to deal in cash. This frees them from having to hold large sums of cash and make quicker transactions for daily business purposes. I think once the current SBI mergers are done, I expect it to be launched.
BJP lying again to the nation regarding their land deals in Bihar. It was reported that BJP purchased lands worth crores of rupees in 25 districts in Bihar ahead of the November 8 demonetisation of Rs 500 and Rs 1,000 currency notes. Till Friday, the BJP leaders, including leader of Opposition in Bihar assembly Prem Kumar and former Deputy Chief Minister Sushil Kumar Modi, repeatedly said the payments were made through cheque and RTGS transfers through banks. Both Prem Kumar and Modi said the party did not commit any wrongdoing and that the land deals were transparent.
And now it is reported that BJP paid cash, not cheques or RTGS transfer, to purchase lands worth crores of rupees. The documents accessed by TIMES NOW (It's Times Now Bhakt's!!!) shows BJP President Amit Shah’s signature authorizing the purchase of the land.
http://www.timesnow.tv/india/video/bjp-‘lands’-into-trouble-land-buying-spree-in-bihar-questioned/52332 (Those who want to know the truth, please watch the video in this link as well. It's all mentioned in the video)
http://www.catchnews.com/india-news...an-amit-shah-authorised-deals-1480425007.html (You could see the pictures of sales deeds in this link)
https://in.news.yahoo.com/bjp-paid-crores-cash-buy-131358706.html
Not just that!!!! BJP didn't just bought land the land to whitewash their money. They only showed 50% of the actual purchase amount in one of the sale deed to save taxes and there by doing a massive corruption. 5 days ago, Parshuram Chauhan in Bihar's Kishanganj claimed that he had sold his land to the state BJP unit for 70 lakhs (This is caught on camera). But sales deeds only shows that Mr. Chouhan sold his lands to BJP for 35 lakhs. So, going by Mr Chauhan's assertion, BJP paid him 70 lakh in cash and then only showed 35 lakhs in the sales deeds. The 70 lakh itself is supposed to be black money as it was paid in cash. As per law, no one can pay that much of an amount in cash. Moreover, they did more corruption on their black money by only showing 50% of the total value in the sales deed and there by cheating taxes on property sales. Also one real estate agent from the area said "The government rates are very low. As per the market value, that plot of land should be around Rs. 64 lakh,"
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/said...deal-does-a-180-1632142?pfrom=home-topstories (Watch the video in this link for more details)
Now, my question is, Isn't this a big scam? Isn't this corruption of the highest order? Are we supposed to keep mum and support this?
You have solid proofs in front of you in the form of videos and documentations, not just some media reports. Guys, come to your senses. It's only big words and chest thumping speeches, these lot are looting and fooling the nation under the mask of nationalism and in the process, knowingly or unknowingly, destroying our economy as well.
And now it is reported that BJP paid cash, not cheques or RTGS transfer, to purchase lands worth crores of rupees. The documents accessed by TIMES NOW (It's Times Now Bhakt's!!!) shows BJP President Amit Shah’s signature authorizing the purchase of the land.
http://www.timesnow.tv/india/video/bjp-‘lands’-into-trouble-land-buying-spree-in-bihar-questioned/52332 (Those who want to know the truth, please watch the video in this link as well. It's all mentioned in the video)
http://www.catchnews.com/india-news...an-amit-shah-authorised-deals-1480425007.html (You could see the pictures of sales deeds in this link)
https://in.news.yahoo.com/bjp-paid-crores-cash-buy-131358706.html
Not just that!!!! BJP didn't just bought land the land to whitewash their money. They only showed 50% of the actual purchase amount in one of the sale deed to save taxes and there by doing a massive corruption. 5 days ago, Parshuram Chauhan in Bihar's Kishanganj claimed that he had sold his land to the state BJP unit for 70 lakhs (This is caught on camera). But sales deeds only shows that Mr. Chouhan sold his lands to BJP for 35 lakhs. So, going by Mr Chauhan's assertion, BJP paid him 70 lakh in cash and then only showed 35 lakhs in the sales deeds. The 70 lakh itself is supposed to be black money as it was paid in cash. As per law, no one can pay that much of an amount in cash. Moreover, they did more corruption on their black money by only showing 50% of the total value in the sales deed and there by cheating taxes on property sales. Also one real estate agent from the area said "The government rates are very low. As per the market value, that plot of land should be around Rs. 64 lakh,"
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/said...deal-does-a-180-1632142?pfrom=home-topstories (Watch the video in this link for more details)
Now, my question is, Isn't this a big scam? Isn't this corruption of the highest order? Are we supposed to keep mum and support this?
You have solid proofs in front of you in the form of videos and documentations, not just some media reports. Guys, come to your senses. It's only big words and chest thumping speeches, these lot are looting and fooling the nation under the mask of nationalism and in the process, knowingly or unknowingly, destroying our economy as well.
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Why?
Because he / she himself / herself said yesterday that the PM is all too powerful and has managed to commit more than 25 odd scams. But no man or political party is able to nab him and even put a case against him even with all the proof just lying around everywhere. This is just one more scam. Nothing changes other than the PM's bank account amount.
Too bad the man who claimed he sold land for 70 lakh has backtracked and now says he had said "17 lakh." 
Too bad the man who claimed he sold land for 70 lakh has backtracked and now says he had said "17 lakh."
He was bullied of course.
So the BJP just decided to gift the guy an extra 18 lakh because they like himToo bad the man who claimed he sold land for 70 lakh has backtracked and now says he had said "17 lakh."
Too bad the man who claimed he sold land for 70 lakh has backtracked and now says he had said "17 lakh."
He said he had a brain haemorrhage. So he sometimes forget things... So, that's it, case closed (for both of you). Modi is still a saint!!!
So weird.
Never mind them. @Witchking and @The Man Himself are devoted Modi fans. No matter what you say or what you show them, even if you produce solid proofs against Modi's corruptions, they will still find excuses and will praise their lord, aka, Modi.
Part of land was in his wife's name so he will maybe say rest of money will go to her. Too funny but he said he can't remember because he has brain haemorrhage
Being serious, no political party is clean. In different proportions they all deal in black money. This move should help to atleast partially reduce the problem. It will harm BJP in some proportions if not as much as other parties.
People however can't have it both way that Modi decided it like dictator on spur of moment and then say it was preplanned with systematic leak to own party. If it was leaked to whole party country wide it won't have been a secret that it was. BJP has said it was in process of buying land throughout country since more than year to build party offices. Those deals which are suspicious, I-T can look into and take action accordingly.
Part of land was in his wife's name so he will maybe say rest of money will go to her. Too funny but he said he can't remember because he has brain haemorrhage
Being serious, no political party is clean. In different proportions they all deal in black money. This move should help to atleast partially reduce the problem. It will harm BJP in some proportions if not as much as other parties.
People however can't have it both way that Modi decided it like dictator on spur of moment and then say it was preplanned with systematic leak to own party. If it was leaked to whole party country wide it won't have been a secret that it was. BJP has said it was in process of buying land throughout country since more than year to build party offices. Those deals which are suspicious, I-T can look into and take action accordingly.
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and . Best of luck with that mate. Give your brain some rest and get ready for the match. You can't have it both ways. You say he is too powerful, no one can do anything and yet you say you have solid proof against him. Really, no one is stopping you from taking this further. If he is corrupt and is caught, he deserves all the punishment he gets.I-T
My brain is very much at ease. The guy who desperately and furiously searches through sites like catch news should worry about state of his mind which has been too apparent in this thread.
@Hisha your arguments are so useless. Apart from copy pasting articles, you seem to lack a perspective or personal insight on the whole issue. But I like how determined you are. Keep at it.
I have no issue with any of your political parties nor their leaders. My only issue is the acceptance of corruption and nepotism in south Asia as something that's normal.Part of land was in his wife's name so he will maybe say rest of money will go to her. Too funny but he said he can't remember because he has brain haemorrhage
Being serious, no political party is clean. In different proportions they all deal in black money. This move should help to atleast partially reduce the problem. It will harm BJP in some proportions if not as much as other parties.
People however can't have it both way that Modi decided it like dictator on spur of moment and then say it was preplanned with systematic leak to own party. If it was leaked to whole party country wide it won't have been a secret that it was. BJP has said it was in process of buying land throughout country since more than year to build party offices. Those deals which are suspicious, I-T can look into and take action accordingly.
The only way to clean up these countries is for the general populace to stand up and say enough is enough! We've got students who pay private tuition to the same teachers that should be teaching this stuff to students in school, we have graduates who end up paying future employers a kick back just so they might get an interview (not just the job but a fecking interview) , criminal cases can be delayed indefinitely if you have enough money.
A time needs to come where we hold the corrupt up and name and shame them but it's hard when almost everyone has their fingers in someone else's pie.
That is some SJW nonsense. Structural changes work better and quicker. We have been long overdue for some of these changes and the current govt is doing a good job pushing through with these reforms.
Talk about reforms all you want but some of you guys still dismissed the articles that @Hisha Posted.
I am not accepting corruption as normal. BJP is not totally clean either but demonetization move can definitely impact black money and corruption in politics at least partially, irrespective of party, and that's what I am satisfied with. How much it impacts needs to be seen.
The other problems you are listing are lot to do with general populace only so they themselves need to change. To eradicate corruption fully it is not just politicians but normal people who are OK with some bribe to take shortcut/move ahead, they need to change as well. If society becomes firm on it, it should then reflect in elected politicians/lawmakers.
Do you think that is a fair assessment on your behalf? Incoherent political ramblings versus much needed reforms that affect our economic health over the next few decades. I think the reason he is ignored is pretty obvious.
Btw.. News in that old notes acceptance will be till Dec 2 and not Dec 15. I don't know if there was another govt decision which kept flip-flopping everyday.
Hopefully the the 24K withdrawal is here to stay and they don't scrap it altogether,
Hopefully the the 24K withdrawal is here to stay and they don't scrap it altogether,
These are solid proofs for first degree corruption against the government, their party and the prime minister himself. The news reports includes all kinds of proofs needed for an open minded person to come to a conclusion. The seller confirming the actual sales amount on video, pictures of authorization letter from BJP president Amit Shah for the land purchases, copies of the sales deeds which clearly mentions that the amount was paid in cash when no one can pay such a huge amount in cash for any kind of purchase, sales deeds only showing 50% actual purchase value as per the seller's admission., etc... BJP leaders were claiming that they purchased these land using white money and that they paid through cheques and bank transfers. All are proven to be lies...what more do you want as a proof? But you can't wake up someone who is only pretending to be asleep, right?
The real problem for the countries like India is this kind of people, who will support their leaders no matter what. These kind of blind support and idolism from their fans is encouraging the corrupt leaders to be more and more corrupt. These leaders knows that they could easily manipulate the feelings of their fan base and con them with great words and chest thumping speeches.
Losing battle. Country's gone down the shitter some time ago.
Nothing like a dose of cynicism to get your morning started.
The 24k limit is a joke, banks are putting up their own limits based on the amount of cash they have. Don't think I have ever seen a government policy with so many Uturns before. There is no way you can trust the government on anything because they basically keep changing their own decisions every second day.
Ya. It looks like 24K limit need not be changed by the govt. All it needs to is limit the supply.
Banks have lost a lot of trust with these U turns. People now want to hog as much money as they can, so that if govt decides something suddenly they don't suffer.
Criminals are still printing fake currencies and distributing them in to the market including the newly introduced Rs 2000 notes. What to do now? Ban the currencies again? And then what? So, the claims of eradicating the fake currencies are already gone down to the deep see..
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...uding-newly-introduced-rs-2000-notes-4396256/
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-6-arrested/story-ImZqBD5BsE7dFOnVLRC39H.html
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/3-held-with-fake-2-000-rupee-notes-worth-rs-42-lakh-in-mohali-1632433
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/3-held-with-fake-rs-2000-notes-in-mohali/1/823833.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-surfaces-in-gujarat/articleshow/55557803.cms
And there are more reports of fake currencies of new notes. The most depressing thing is that, the one found in Gujrat was not a photocopied version, but a 'real' fake currency with features including the Gandhi watermark next to the national emblem and a fake security thread.
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...uding-newly-introduced-rs-2000-notes-4396256/
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-6-arrested/story-ImZqBD5BsE7dFOnVLRC39H.html
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/3-held-with-fake-2-000-rupee-notes-worth-rs-42-lakh-in-mohali-1632433
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/3-held-with-fake-rs-2000-notes-in-mohali/1/823833.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-surfaces-in-gujarat/articleshow/55557803.cms
And there are more reports of fake currencies of new notes. The most depressing thing is that, the one found in Gujrat was not a photocopied version, but a 'real' fake currency with features including the Gandhi watermark next to the national emblem and a fake security thread.
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But... but.. these were harder to counterfeit.
Was that all bs? Or are the bad guys really really clever
Was that all bs? Or are the bad guys really really clever
The new notes do have more security features in it. Some of the features like Gandhi watermark are carried forward but there are additional ones. There are total 16 features I think including ability for visually impaired ones to detect.
The issue of quick counterfeiting is and will be a big problem if all or most of new security features were duplicated, which I doubt.
The FICN has suffered greatly particularly in Malda and through Bangladesh-India route. I think I had posted a link about it before.
I wouldn't be looking at redcafe to start the day, tbh.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...ized-from-BJP-functionary/article16712463.ece
http://www.financialexpress.com/ind...e-with-rs-20-lakh-of-unexplained-cash/461109/
“For the progress of my country, I am ready to stand in the queue,” Facebook post by J V R Arun, BJP’s youth wing secretary from Salem. He was arrested by Tamil Nadu Police with several bundles of currency notes, including 926 Rs. 2,000 currency notes, worth Rs 20.55 lakh on Saturday.
Found this reply on social media,. "This is a propaganda against BJP leaders by Congress and the left. He was appointed by a bank to deposit money in the ATM machines and he was carrying the cash from the bank as part of his work. Police is fabricating things to defame Modiji"
i think its true
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couldn't make this up. a bank/rbi would appoint a politician to deposit bank notes in atm machines.
Maybe the bank guy got brain hemorrhagecouldn't make this up. a bank/rbi would appoint a politician to deposit bank notes in atm machines.
Maybe the bank guy got brain hemorrhage