Ralf Rangnick was even more right about literally everything he said. It didn't help him to win games though. Knowing what's wrong and being able to fix it are two very different animals.
In hindsight, Mourinho was right about a few things?
- Thread starter shamans
- Start date
No manager was worse for Rashford's development than Jose Mourinho. He set Rashford's development back at least 3-4 years with the constant negativity and anti-football he subjected Raahford to at such a crucial point in his career. He also is the manager who destroyed Martial's career. Before Jose, Tony was a lean attacking machine and was literally the man who carried us in 15/16 for long periods as a bloody teenager!!! Then Jose brings in old man Ibrahimovic, takes the kid's shirt number from him and zaps his playing time at a point where he needed to be playing regularly and kicking on after a brilliant first season. Then he loses all the speed and trickery and bravery that made him great in the first place. Luckily Rashford found a way to recover from all that negativity in his early career and keep rising. Martial wasn't so lucky. Terrible terrible manager.
Mourinho brought in Lindelof and Bailly, a couple of centre backs utterly unlike his usual inspired picks of centre backs. That will always be such a head scratcher.
Treatment of Shaw was dreadful too.
Arguably the most cowardly approach to some of the big games ever seen too.
Did win a couple of trophies though, and until Ten Hag starts doing that, hopefully in 2 days time (!), he remains our best manager post Fergie just for that.
Treatment of Shaw was dreadful too.
Arguably the most cowardly approach to some of the big games ever seen too.
Did win a couple of trophies though, and until Ten Hag starts doing that, hopefully in 2 days time (!), he remains our best manager post Fergie just for that.
Why are people so fecking obsessed with Mourinho 'being right'?
Mourinho is a cnut. And a shite past it manager. Feck him.
Mourinho is a cnut. And a shite past it manager. Feck him.
Absolute bollocks. Martial being a crybaby who couldn't take some competition has nothing to do with Jose. Or for his pathetic fitness.
Don't care much to flog a dead horse again. Both the club and Mourinho are exactly where they're supposed to be presently
Like Ole and LVG he was right about some things but all of them were fundamentally wrong in how they were attempting to move us forward.
The pragmatic, cautious and fairly basic approaches all 3 of them and Moyes adopted were just completely out dated and doomed to fail. You can’t compete with City by being passive, parking the bus and being happy not to lose.
That’s without even addressing the poor man’s management and terrible transfer business.
The pragmatic, cautious and fairly basic approaches all 3 of them and Moyes adopted were just completely out dated and doomed to fail. You can’t compete with City by being passive, parking the bus and being happy not to lose.
That’s without even addressing the poor man’s management and terrible transfer business.
he’s been right about nothing literally
Fixed it for you.
Mourinho got a lot wrong too. When you claim everything is wrong you will always be correct with some.
He said Shaw was mentally disadvantaged. He preferred players like Fellani who should never have played for us. His football was shite which was the biggest wrong.
LVG was right about the club being business over football & not buying the type of players he needed.
Ole said Tuanzebe was future United captain material.
Oh he was also right about Shaw, player without a brain.
Twat
Twat
Most manager wont publicly trash their players / squad / club. So its hard to know what they thought was shit against popular consensus
Well he has a fanbase because he's one of the greatest managers to have ever graced the sport. Hardly ridiculous. You talk like it's a nobody or a bang average clown. I'm sure Ferguson, Guardiola, Clough.....all have their admirers. What helps Jose is his charismatic personality on top of his CV. The guy is box office and magnetic to say the least.
ETH hasn't really achieved anything yet. I'm sure at this stage into Jose's stint, many people thought the same about him. Let the honeymoon phase pass.
We've had this thread before, here's what I thought last time.
No chance. He struggled at times at Arsenal at the time too. He couldnt cope in the Premier League. He was a bit like Kagawa, overrated.
He always had great work ethic though and could score a few goals now and then, but he was never a player who could get you from 6th to top 4
Yes. que to Football heritage comment
Most of the things he was right about were things he set himself up to be right about. Many have said the Rashford incident but that was just ridiculous. He put Rashford and Martial up top in a weak team and had them send long balls to them all game and when they obviously didn't perform acted like he was some sort of genius or vindicated because of it.
I'll never forgive him for trying to kill Luke Shaw's career. Almost every United player declined under him. Obviously a great of the game, but that ended nearly a decade ago.
He's right when he said 2nd place is a big achievement.
He's wrong when he said "The next manager will find... Lukaku, Matic" during his heritage rant, absolutely wrong.
He's wrong when he said "The next manager will find... Lukaku, Matic" during his heritage rant, absolutely wrong.
He's really not. He has his moments but 90% of his interviews were dour and self sabotaging. The charismatic personality lasted about a month
That thread is a goldmine. Only Jose can both rate and not rate a player at the same time and somehow be right in both cases.
Mikhi's signing was better than Kagawa's.
Yes he was right about letting Blind walk only to sign Lindelof. Throwing his toys out the pram because he didn't get Maguire, Shaw not being up to it, Lukaku being a No.9 for a top team.
If we look at youth players, LVG promoted Rashford, Ole had Greenwood, ETH has Garnacho. It's so typical in a team that has historically had top academy prospects the jewel in the crown for Jose was Mctominay.
His fans love to talk about what he was right about but never talk about his blunders.
The person who absolutely was right was Sir Bobby, he said from the very beginning Mourinho wasn't a Manchester United. Jose's 'football heritage' rant couldn't have proved SBC any more right.
If we look at youth players, LVG promoted Rashford, Ole had Greenwood, ETH has Garnacho. It's so typical in a team that has historically had top academy prospects the jewel in the crown for Jose was Mctominay.
His fans love to talk about what he was right about but never talk about his blunders.
The person who absolutely was right was Sir Bobby, he said from the very beginning Mourinho wasn't a Manchester United. Jose's 'football heritage' rant couldn't have proved SBC any more right.
yeah come to think of it LVG did have his pros including giving Rashford his breakthrough
Imagine being given 400 million in budget and enormous wages to do your job and getting everything wrong
I always find it weird how people point to Pogba as a way of defending Jose…when it was Jose himself that signed him. For a then world record fee too!
Jose's signings were horrific. Fred arguably the best of his signings, with Lindelof and Dalot behind. The rest of them were terrible. Pogba, the biggest waste of money and our worst ever signing imo.
What about the way he treated Shaw?
Jose Mourinho was let down by the board the summer of the season he left. He then let himself down by throwing the towel in before the season started and ensuring a complete meltdown. We still had a decent enough squad, and he should have attacked the season, or quit on the spot.
Ultimately he never did fit in at United, nor committed for the long term. I'm answer the question, of course he was right about a lot of things, but no different to what we as fans saw. It was clear as day.
Ultimately he never did fit in at United, nor committed for the long term. I'm answer the question, of course he was right about a lot of things, but no different to what we as fans saw. It was clear as day.
The signings got progressively worse with each window under Mourinho. Pogba definitely wasn't the worst. Maybe one of the bigger disappointments as the expectations were so high, but can you really say Pogba made less of a contribution for United than Lindelof or Dalot?
If you take transfer spend out of the equation, Alexis Sanchez was objectively the worst signing made during Mourinho's tenure.
For DDG. It was the single biggest carry job a keeper has ever done over a league campaign.
Feck off. I was hopeful when he was appointed. He was LvG‘s assistant and hoped he would build on what Van Gaal started instead of starting over. I imagined us playing like Chelsea in 2014/15.
Nope, he tore it all down and set us back for many years. He is an egocentric maniac.
Some of his signings were good but did not do much in terms of team building. The Europa League Cup was won by dire performances against mostly poor sides.
Maybe we needed ten bad years for it to be possible for Ten Hag to come in and assert total control.
Nope, he tore it all down and set us back for many years. He is an egocentric maniac.
Some of his signings were good but did not do much in terms of team building. The Europa League Cup was won by dire performances against mostly poor sides.
Maybe we needed ten bad years for it to be possible for Ten Hag to come in and assert total control.
Well his interviews were massively entertaining for the non United fans that's for sure.
He is bully. It will work for a while and then people wild just get tired of it.
Thanks for trophies Mou, but get fecked.
Thanks for trophies Mou, but get fecked.
Mourinho is a strong character with strong opinions. It's not that amazing or worthy of plaudits that he would be right in some of them. He is after all a decorated football manager, wouldn't it be weirder if he got nothing right?
The problem is he got more wrong than right and made a mess of things, alienating everyone at the club. So if the antidote to that is to say "yeah but he was right about Pogba" then okay, but it's not exactly convincing. I don't think it's a bullet point for the CV.
The problem is he got more wrong than right and made a mess of things, alienating everyone at the club. So if the antidote to that is to say "yeah but he was right about Pogba" then okay, but it's not exactly convincing. I don't think it's a bullet point for the CV.
Thing with that last point always being used in his favor, how can he genuinely get credit for that when he's the very same manager who spent a then world record fee on that same player
Buying him then slating him is really something that deserves credit??
The revisionism when it comes to Mourinho always requires a fair bit of magical thinking
Last edited:
Mourinho was fecking shit, just like all our other managers post SAF. And he was also a toxic, self-serving cnut. Feck him. Ten Hag is showing us what a proper top class manager looks like. Just enjoy it, and let Mourinho rot in obscurity.
Anybody that ever points anything out that was positive about Mourinho immediately gets called out as being a cult member! It has always been the same. So weird.