How we cont with KL, DK is beyond me. No point in amazing strength in depth if we stick to the same. So lucky. I didn't even watch our batting. 37 in first 5 overs is beyond pathetic. That is worse than the standard in ODI in 2000s. Forget T20 now
ICC T20 World Cup 2022
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SKY is having a good tournament as well but yes, rest range from meh to terrible.
Amazing how we control ICC.... yet have not won any ICC tournament since 2013 Champions Trophy. 
At least when ABU fans cried about Fergie bribing FA and referees, we were winning multiple titles. This just a different kind of delusion and supposed jealousy against a team that is not even winning anything.
At least when ABU fans cried about Fergie bribing FA and referees, we were winning multiple titles. This just a different kind of delusion and supposed jealousy against a team that is not even winning anything.
,People have truly lost their marbles. Wet outfields hampers the fielding side the most. Wet ball not only negates the spinners completely even for pacers it is difficult to control the ball at the death. This is the reason why almost throughout last T20 WC in UAE, the chasing side won with dew hampering bowling outfit repeatedly.
The rain did break Bangla's momentum but the game was still completely in their hands after resumption. Heck even after Das got out they had equation down to 52 off 5 with 8 wickets in hand. The next two overs cost them the game. It is pretty simple. No need for crazed conspiracy theories.
Yes, forgot about him. Has been class.
Always fun this thread when about two/three people have a quick moan about India then we get three pages of 20 Indians going mad about it.
I don't think confidence is the issue with him. He's just an extremely selfish batsman.
Kohli and him basically played the same innings (and Kohli ran out of overs), but KL played 22 balls in the PP Vs Kohlis 13.
It's a serious waste
I agree in general that we are not a top T20 side. But I don't agree that 200 was the par score today. At best it was 190? But our bowling looks dog shit in even remotely flat conditions. Arshdeep still needs more time in international cricket before he can be a gun death bowler. Shami is ok on Oz pitches, Bhuvi is average. The spinner conundrum is something else. Ashwin is simply not an attacking spinner and is in the side due to the batting he brings. If Harshal had not gone off the boil in the manner he did, I am certain he would be the number 8 and Yuzi would be playing. Axar is in the side but Rohit does not trust him against lefties.
I guess then you can make the argument that team management should recognise that our bowling is not going to cut the mustard on most tracks and should always ask batting to target 10-15 runs over par. That's what Dhoni did in 2011 WC.
This World Cup is wide open. It may well come to who has the best 'big game' players.
Which is India obviously with Kohli in this form, and England.
However if Australia scab through they'll probably win it somehow.
Which is India obviously with Kohli in this form, and England.
However if Australia scab through they'll probably win it somehow.
You are talking too much logic here. That's not how things work for some.
It will be funny though if we somehow win the whole thing with some conspiracy here and there.
Yes, Australia getting knocked out would be a major boost for all other 4 sides. Assuming everything goes as expected in remaining group matches the semis will look like this:
Ind v NZ
Eng v SA
They would be great games but pretty much any combination would be at this stage.
And that's why England are so well respected. Was a lovely gesture to Ireland.
It's the least we can do for the Irish TBH
From India's point of view I think they will prefer to play in Adelaide against NZ. It is the flattest deck and Kohli's fav. Sydney isn't bad either. England should fancy their chances against SA in Adelaide considering the power hitters they have. But again I feel the finals will be NZ ENG. Just don't trust india's batting.
India will be the team England want to play the least.
I think we ended 5-10 below par, but that was after some catching up. The base we had will lose you many matches -- Rahul and Kohli playing at run a ball. I am not criticizing where we ended up, but just how we approached the first half of the game.
Rahul's innings was terrible and so was Kohli's for half of it.
Our bowling looks average, yes. I think we have 11 players who I'd rate 6-7 out of 10.
As @Utd heap says, it's T20 and big players will win matches. We have a few of those in the batting -- I think we can win this thing but with some luck and purple patches on our side. SA apart, other teams dont look like they have a class enough bowling.
I disagree with him re Kohli though -- I think Kohli's not very reliable in knockout matches barring a couple of occasions in his career.
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Oz will only make it if you bottle it against Lanka
agreed. would be a bitter pill to swallow with ashwin getting a 10-fer, mankading.
I don't think you can say Rahul's innings was terrible given where he ended up. It is same as him getting 40 off 20 odd balls in PP and then getting out. We were 115 after 13 with SKY and Kohli, both set, at the crease. Hard to blame any batting until that point. In last 7 we scored 69, in some other scenarios we would have scored closer to 80 and gotten between 190-200.
I will still maintain that 185-190 was par on that wicket. Even in Bangla side, it was Das who made it look uber easy and no one else. You need your bowling to win you matches, as it did in the T20 WC we won. Our score in final against Pak and SA in a critical match was below par. Even score against Oz in semis was chase-able.
Yes, the knockouts will come down to SKY or Pandya having big games for us. They are obvious match winners in our side.
Only one semi is at Adelaide, other is at SCG. Both tracks are similar and should be fairly high scoring games. Both tracks suit Eng the most IMO.
have to say I really wonder about the thinking of someone who makes thousands of posts where they think "I must be sarcastic or attempt to be funny" every single time. I'm sure there'll be some snarky comment in response to this, but such a bore that I'll mute.
What?
Call me naive but I fear facing NZ more than England (maybe the 2019 scars have still not healed). Also, because I think NZ bowling will cause our batters more problem than England's. And I don't think I can take another loss to the so called underdogs again. Rather get thrashed by Buttler, Hales and co. than lose to a boring innings by Williamson.
India Vs New Zealand - a T12 showdown as KL and Kane cancel each other out
Williamson at least has a knack of showing up in big matches, can't trust the big game failure KL in that.
Hope either we take it, or I’ll be hoping for a NZ win.
I would be confident of beating NZ. Some revenge is due. If SA beats Pak tomorrow, we ll likely get a Eng-India final.
If it is Ind Vs NZ... It is virtually a free pass for NZ into the finals!
Might bet a few quids.
Might bet a few quids.
Rizwan getting out early is good for Pak, and they have a chance to score a reasonable PP total now.
South Africa all but through to the semis. Their bowling is so good. They are my favourites to win the tournament.
Did not see Rizwan and Babbar flopping this badly.
Pakistan players have zero game awareness. Pure stupidity.
Yeah - should have won against India and likely will give up on 10-15 run here because of their stupidity.
Think people wrote Pakistan off too soon 
Rain causing problems here
Rain causing problems here
Some hitting by Pakistan here.
Maybe puts India’s bowling in damp conditions yesterday in context eh. Pretty hilarious that there were people in here who thought the bowling team benefits in wet conditions.
Maybe puts India’s bowling in damp conditions yesterday in context eh. Pretty hilarious that there were people in here who thought the bowling team benefits in wet conditions.
Brilliant 50 from Shadab there.
Fair play to pakistan. That’s some incredible batting considering the start. Some huge hitting!
Bowling team is definitely suffering with the wet ball. Struggling to control their line and length. That dropped catch too with wet ball.