ICC T20 World Cup 2021

Everyone scrapping for the chance to get pummelled by England. Today shows what some intent at the top can achieve, too late for India unfortunately.
Depends on the toss. If eng bat first against Pak or NZ on a dew condition they may struggle.
 
Depends on the toss. If eng bat first against Pak or NZ on a dew condition they may struggle.

Yep, England batting first in a night game probably need 170+ to beat Pakistan in particular.

I'm hoping that's the final.

I'd fancy England to beat anybody chasing, and that includes any target bar something ridiculous.
 
You realize the bowling opposition.
Yes I do, that’s why I said some intent. Didn’t expect India to come out and smash New Zealand like they did Scotland but letting the likes of Satner and Sodhi just bowl to them like Warne and Murali was bad. Fair enough the opposition is on top but intent isn’t just boundaries but urgency, rotation of strike and turning ones into twos to put some pressure back on them.
 
You realize the bowling opposition.

agree with this - lot of hyperbole from comms on TV as if the only thing that changed was India's approach. It's the opposition and it remains to be seen if India can do that against decent teams.
 
agree with this - lot of hyperbole from comms on TV as if the only thing that changed was India's approach. It's the opposition and it remains to be seen if India can do that against decent teams.
India are not 110 level bad irrespective of who the bowling attack is. I will even say Pak bowled and fielded better than NZ and yet we scored 150. We just were pathetic against NZ.
 
It's not a myth. The NRR is calculated on a cumulative weighted basis. If you score at 10 RPO for 20 overs, that's 120 balls added to the denominator and 200 runs to the numerator. If you chase 80 runs in 8 overs, despite it being the same run rate(10 RPO), it adds 10 RPO only for 48 balls, and that makes a smaller difference to your overall.

However, the bowlers have done such a good job today that the NRR will get impacted, but for literally the same diference in run rate in the same match, doing it batting first vs second will give a better yield.

Post I was replying to claimed India couldn't make up NRR deficit because they chose to field. Your example isn't that relevant to the point I'm making. I've already acknowledged that batting first gives you a higher NRR in theory. But this isn't theory. Firstly, India's aim wasn't to get the highest possible NRR, their aim was to get their NRR higher than Afg and NZ. And their NRR wasn't that bad that they at all costs needed to bat first to make up the deficit. What they needed was either win each game by a 60+ runs margin, or each game by a 6-7 overs to spare margin.

This is a tournament where it is easier to chase than defend so no surprises they went down the chasing route. And they've been vindicated with the outcome today. On these low scoring pitches it's way harder to score high and restrict low than to restrict low and chase fast.
 
Kind of crazy that india could make the World Cup semifinal having beaten Afghanistan,Namibia and Scotland
 
India are not 110 level bad irrespective of who the bowling attack is. I will even say Pak bowled and fielded better than NZ and yet we scored 150. We just were pathetic against NZ.

Doesn't matter though. The bowling opposition here is club level at best facing pros at the top of the food chain. 150th best batsman in India would have tonked them.
 
I don’t know why people are expecting NZ to lose to Afghanistan. I know strange things have happened in sport but this one is just highly unlikely.
 
Doesn't matter though. The bowling opposition here is club level at best facing pros at the top of the food chain. 150th best batsman in India would have tonked them.
That was not my point. India were poor against NZ is my point, hence said India are not 110 level bad. Yes they may not have score 200 against NZ but should and could have scored 150 plus had they shown more intent.
 
End of an era today. I hope we at least get an entertaining performance today.
 
Fml, this has been a disastrous tournament for us. I love Gayle but I love Ambrose more and ever since he mouthed about universe boss against sir curtly, this was done for us.

It has been a disaster that you could have seen was always very possible, but what can you do? Every team has crappy tournaments every now and then. Just hope we rebuild well.
 
Nice catch from Warner. I hope Windies win this but they’ll probably end up 20 runs short.
 
This would’ve been a bit more exciting if Australia hadn’t hammered Bangladesh.
 
Brilliant from Warner. Should see the Aussies through.

An end of an era for the Windies. Hopefully they can rebuild after a poor tournament & get younger players in.
 
All a bit nauseating tbh,there’s a World Cup match going on and it felt like a charity game.
 
South Africa with a big acceleration at the end to get a very good score.