Broken tendulkars record for runs in a WC too
ICC Cricket World Cup 2023
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I hope the final is at least competitive. This Indian team is so good that I doubt it will be anything different to today.
Would’ve liked to see surya come in
Kohli out, game on!
Australia are the ultimate obstacle
Yeah this is ideal for him
Did they??? Come on.1. The daily mail
2. England changed all the pitches in the world cup in 2019 but you don't hear the rest of the world complaining about it.
If we'd had control of the pitches we'd have chosen absolute roads to suit our batting line-up. You don't believe that, do you?
Absolutely amazing performance by King
I reckon Kohli must be the ODI batsman who's scored the most runs with doubles
It's a quote from the consultant, right? The Mail may have some horrible biases, and often have an agenda, but they don't make up quotes.
You'd think not. Hard to see anything other than an Indian win at this point, particularly with their bowling line-up. The only thing that'll beat them is complacency (unless Phillips goes on a mad one).
Iyer is in some form
I remember this
https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricke...s/news-story/5b74db543b657ddf66f252dc8b603e88
and the pitches were flat after that.
Dunno if it made any difference.. but certainly did complain about not getting pitches tailored to their strengths
His stats are insane. An ODI 100 every five innings. He's surely a lock at no.3 in the greatest ODI lineup of all time (I'd have said Ponting for his fielding but Kohli's record brooks no argument).
Selfish stat padder haha
Kohli is surely the ODI GOAT after that knock. What a player, what an era.
The 2019 final was the least suited pitch for the England side so it really makes no sense.
Gill carrying the bat and still not even getting a century. Wasteman.
398 to win
They havent found a way to control the weather.. yet...
King Kohli, what an absolute legend.
Selfish player though, only looks out for himself, not a team player etc etc
Selfish player though, only looks out for himself, not a team player etc etc
Ehh. ODIs today and 20 years ago are essentially different games. He will go down as the GOAT, but as somebody that saw the 90s. I'd say that ODIs today aren't nearly as much as a contest. My two cents is that nobody from the last 10-15 years can be the batting GOAT. And this isn't counting Viv who was the outlier in the 80s as well.
Imagine how much we'd have got if those cheaters BCCI hadn't swapped pitches, if we can get 400 on a slow pitch. Shame.
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I mean.. BCCI is way too powerful.. and Jay Shah could be the posterchild for corruption..
but yeah.. this team doesnt need any help to win here.
These guys would destroy ODIs in the 90s. I think the games been figured out in the last 10 years or so. Everyone prior to that (with the exception of a few players) were playing it wrong - that happens in most sports to be fair. It's the same with Basketball and the 3 pointer.
The GOAT should be more than just the best player though. Influence on the game should play a big role - which is why Viv and Sachin have such a strong claim to GOAT status. The modern guys have just perfected it from a strategy point of view.
He has always been a team player and looked at the wider game which is why I found the pissing around earlier in the tournament very weird.
Doesn't matter right now and will rightly be completely forgotten if eh's top run scorer and India lift the cup - let it go!
The players right now are a lot fitter and stronger. Indian odi team had Ganguly and VVS in the team ffs.
The ball starts swinging and half the batters today collapse. It isn't remotely the same sport. Biggern bats, smaller grounds. No reverse swing, more field restrictions.. It's a batter's game now.
With refards to influence - I think if Kohli wins the World Cup it will elevate him. 2011 was sachin, 2023 might well push Kohli and Rohit into the top pantheon (They are there, but to the very top)
You have to measure each players average and it’s difference from their generation’s average. There was a cricinfo article on this recently. Virat doesn’t score so highly on this metric. Ab and Sachin do. And Viv Richards.
Ah makes sense. Was wondering what the feck he is doing there sitting with Ambani’s pups.
You're forgetting DRS in the modern era. A lot of batsman back then would've also been useless with DRS around which allows umpires to give way more LBWs and there's no benefit of the doubt for the batsman anymore.
Scoring 50 tons doesn't change the fact that he has been selfish lately. Even today he wasn't looking for boundaries but to get to his 100 during the later overs of the game even though he had to accelerate.
Kohli averages more than AB and their careers hugely overlapped?
Totally agree.. was looking at the Indian batting lineup and everyone has an average over 50.. except SKY
its insane.. no point comparing players across generations.
Good luck New Zealand 
I think one of the key differences in this era is that batsman are actually looking to hit the ball. That's what they're practising - how to play shots.
Through most of crickets history, they spent most their time practising the forward defense as that was thought to be the base for all shots. But it's wrong. That should be your last option.
Through most of crickets history, they spent most their time practising the forward defense as that was thought to be the base for all shots. But it's wrong. That should be your last option.
It's still very format dependent.
Look at openers averages in the English summer, even with our Bazball success. Its tough out there.
Ignore what I said
You're right - it's comparing performance versus peers within their team
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...lled-the-greatest-batter-ever-in-odis-1406517
Not sure this is a good metric - as it relies on the quality of the team. Using the same metric, Chanderpaul would be the GOAT of test cricket