They are being banged tbf
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Now 10 dismissals in 17 powerplay innings and the average is down to 5. Makes no difference now I guess but Stokes should bat 3 for the rest of the tournament.
There's an argument that we use potential next generation test players for ODIs. All players nowadays are used to limited over cricket and it's a lot better than having a bunch of over 30 year olds with nothing to prove and no interest out there.
The likes of Mahmood are massively undercooked (injuries aside) and could have been used for the last 4 years in ODIs. They will be needed soon anyway after the inevitable retirements.
The likes of Mahmood are massively undercooked (injuries aside) and could have been used for the last 4 years in ODIs. They will be needed soon anyway after the inevitable retirements.
Game on...
Can we only bowl David Willey, might have 1/2 a chance.
220 or so might have made a decent target with these early wickets. A bit harsh to criticise Stokes maybe but his shot was unnecessary at that point, he still had plenty of time and competent batters with him. They could have just nudged it around for a while, get to 200 and then look to play a few shots.
Lack of interest. T20 and franchise cricket has taken over. Test will always be priority for many and t20 for others.
I hope 50 overs doesn't die because there is still enough interest.
Harsha and Nasser in comms is a great combination
can England go home after this?
Imagine having to stay there for another few weeks knowing youre probably getting tonked each match
Imagine having to stay there for another few weeks knowing youre probably getting tonked each match
Yes hope it continues as well as I think it still has a place on the calendar rather than just bang bang T20.
The whole England team is out of form, it's really painful to watch.
I have tried to avoid commenting on this thinking that we would eventually turn it around, but Sri Lanka are not a good team and they're beating the dog out of us.
This whole tournament has been a joke and we have been absolutely pathetic.
Massively disillusioned and disappointed.
This whole tournament has been a joke and we have been absolutely pathetic.
Massively disillusioned and disappointed.
An awful defense as workd champions absolutely pathetic
I agree, personally think the Coach should be sacked as its just not acceptable. While I think we have the players to move on after, I believe a better coach is needed.
I think he'll probably walk - which is lucky as the ECB would probably give him a second chance as we won the world T20 - but agree that this has been so badly planned and executed he should go.
Surely Buttler is sacked as a captain too after this?
Probably in time he'll also resign - but there's barely any rush with that as most of these guys wont play the next bilateral ODI series anyway
If he doesn't resign, they will keep him on as there will be an exodus of senior players and he will be one of the few remaining.
There's nobody obvious to take over from Buttler anyway. Curran might be next in-line if he nails down his place but that's no guarantee at the moment.
Mott has been unfortunate in terms of barely having anything close to a full squad to work with for any series. I don't think he'll be sacked but he'll be under pressure for the T20 World Cup next year. Probably has been slightly underwhelming overall though, I thought he'd make this team more ruthless but it's not really happened. At the time he looked the safe bet with McCullum the big risk, couldn't have been more wrong.
Mott has been unfortunate in terms of barely having anything close to a full squad to work with for any series. I don't think he'll be sacked but he'll be under pressure for the T20 World Cup next year. Probably has been slightly underwhelming overall though, I thought he'd make this team more ruthless but it's not really happened. At the time he looked the safe bet with McCullum the big risk, couldn't have been more wrong.
I said after the Afghanistan match that Mott will probably be safe because of the T20 WC win last year but I don't know now. The absolute state of this WC campaign might be enough on it's own to justify letting him go. And we've got at least 3 more hammerings yet to come.
That WC win last year looks more and more like a blip.
4 defeats out of 5 this World Cup and they've all been absolute batterings.
That WC win last year looks more and more like a blip.
4 defeats out of 5 this World Cup and they've all been absolute batterings.
This is not just a loss, this is an embarrassing one.
I look at the fixture list every week and go "hmm these 3-4 matches look good" and they all turn out to be one sided
I don't feel like as England fans we can have a totally objective view on this WC due to our own horrendous performance - but I'm trying my best and it still feels like a total bore? Add in the organisational chaos resulting in no visiting fans and some disappointing attendances...it's a bad look for 50 over cricket at a critical time.
What does everyone else reckon?
I still don't think there's been an exciting finish to any match yet and we're 25 matches deep into the tournament. I think it's been a dull tournament although granted I may be biased towards feeling negative about this WC due to the state of England.
I think South Africa are the one bit of excitement in the tournament so far. Afghanistan getting two big scalps too is good for the game. Slim pickings after that though.
Didn't realise the India match was on Sunday, should finish just in time for the United game 
I think it has been fine attendance wise. Even the crowd for Netherlands and Australia yesterday was pretty good. First week was a bit meh and since then the craze has picked up.
I may be in minority but I am not a fan of this format. Yes, all teams play each other but after a point most of the games become meangingless. I rather follow the 2003 or 1999 format where you have two groups and then super six and then semis and final. Gives a fair shot and point carry forward system would mean every game would be a bit fun.
I don't like this format either.
We might be on course for a ton of dead rubbers still to come too.
We might be on course for a ton of dead rubbers still to come too.
England will beat India..
I don't think it's happening. England just look down and out. India needs to literally not show up to lose. I expect a better fight from england but India will eventually win the match.
England are out so can relax and India can rest players if they like - so you could get a freak result, but it would be a freak. We are desperate to fly home.
If India bat first it might be a record hammering.
If Lanka had Hasaranga and Chameera fit then they'd have been quite close to qualifying imo.
Are we playing them at football as well?
Looking forward to Kohli working out how to score a century when India are only chasing 112
Bat first.
Over four thread bans in here if that happens
Wow. Just seen the result.
https://x.com/mufaddal_vohra/status/1717552314884768244?s=46&t=x2Tz33sVixyHxny4GlDnpw
Agree with Hussain here.
Agree with Hussain here.
I've just been arguing this exact point on another forum. He's right.
Why's he averting his eyes like he's going to cry anytime