I think it shows how Mott & Jos have been so confused with this squad. They picked Livingstone over brook in the first squad, then picked Brook over Roy in the final squad and now 3 games in they have picked Brook over Livingstone. The team picked 5000 all rounders in the squad and now suddenly gone to specialists. England have enough talent to win but there is a lack of direction
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I think it shows how Mott & Jos have been so confused with this squad. They picked Livingstone over brook in the first squad, then picked Brook over Roy in the final squad and now 3 games in they have picked Brook over Livingstone. The team picked 5000 all rounders in the squad and now suddenly gone to specialists. England have enough talent to win but there is a lack of direction
Agree with all of the above.
Any Aussies out there that can explain why both Smith & Labu-Shane gets picked? Is there a lack of other solid options out there? Has Matthew wade retired from ODI’s? I guess once Head is back, one of those 2 will drop out?
Most likely it will be Marnus. Smith may retain his spot in the team.
Its weird, because watching him in person yesterday he looked different class to the rest of his teammates even in the very short stay. It was the perfect opportunity and the platform was set for him to play a big innings.
Captaincy was pretty poor though, no doubt. Completely flat body language. He was looking elsewhere when the ball was being thrown to him between balls a few times. Fielders weren't paying attention to him when he wanted change in positions, i saw rizwan having to intervene several times. Just make Rizwan the captain.
In general, there was a night and day difference in the fielding professionalism between the two teams.
Yeah, I just wondered whether or not they had any other batsmen who could’ve been called up. Seems those 2 are way too similar in style for a ODI side. I say all this without any stats to back it up, of course.
Decent recovery Netherlands. Beek can bat well too!
He averaged 70 in the previous WC and also top scored in the T20 WC a couple of years ago. Think he's just burnt out at this stage. Plays and captains all matches in all formats while expected to carry the batting lineup. Same kind of mismanagement and lack of rotation that also leads to Shaheen and Naseem constantly being injured.
He's a woeful captain though. Clueless in the field.
Crazy to get 262 from 91-6. Bigger teams can learn a lot from Holland on how to recover from early collapses.
Topley finds so many ways to injure himself.
Topley injured and SA finding their rhythm. England need a wicket here.
This has real disaster vibes all over it - has done for the whole WC so far (England)
England have the quality of player at the top of the order to chase a big total, but they don't have the depth. I've said it for a while now, England simply aren't producing good enough bowlers to accommodate their batting ability.
It does feel a bit of an end of an era for this crop.
Jimi Hendricks looks a player
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Yep, the balance of the side is completely messed up. The last time England had a good balance to the team. This team just isn’t that and players are completely out of form. I dont expect them to qualify for the next round and a rebuild will be needed after the tournament.
Could get brutal here, expecting SA to make 350+ comfortably. This tournament has more of a 2015 feel to it for England, probably going to be a similar turnover of players after as well. I don't think Malan, Stokes, Moeen, Rashid, Willey or Woakes will play another ODI, possibly Wood also.
How do they work out drinks after 15 overs?
Looking ominous for England. SA will be dunking on us in both sports today.
England are utter dross. Worst defence of a title since Moyes.
I don't think we're going to win this WC you know.
You made a similar comment a few pages ago. It was shite before and it’s shite now.
England have been rubbish at bowling throughout the whole tournament but have particularly struggled during the middle overs. How they would give for a player like Plunkett like in the last tournament.
He should be banned from the dull WUM thing in here as this is a good thread for normal chat and he's perfectly capable of talking cricket.
Yep agree. Hate it how some people just come in here with cheap attention seeking WUM comments detracting from the cricket discussion.
People are overreacting on England's performance. The game is not even 25% done and writing off England as if they are some pub side.
Really good over topped off with a wicket by trusty Adil. I fancied Van der Dussen for a big one on here so we needed that, got to keep taking wickets on this.
It looks like it's been one tournament too far for this group of players.
They've been brilliant for England so can't criticise them too much , we've made the knockouts for every tournament since the big revolution after the 2015 WC. Not sure anyone else has matched that consistency.
Wicket though!
They've been brilliant for England so can't criticise them too much , we've made the knockouts for every tournament since the big revolution after the 2015 WC. Not sure anyone else has matched that consistency.
Wicket though!
The feck are you on about? I've only made one previous comment about England at this tournament and that was this:Nah, we know as England fans. The bowling has been poor and continues to be and we don’t have the batting form to chase big totals. The only way would be to restrict SA to a decent total to chase but the game is getting away at the moment.
You are playing in Mumbai, one of the better batting tracks. Historically chasing here is easy. Unless SA score some crazy first innings score , I am backing england.
Yes plenty of time to go in this game and England could chase a big one on here - my bigger concern is our body language and general confusion in selection/plans.
WTF are you on about???? You made a similar comment about a title defence a few pages ago and you’ve made several comments on England not just the one above. Maybe cease with the WUM comments and stick to the cricket. Then we have your genius comments like this.
Netherlands giving Sri Lanka a good game
I'd have them just ahead at the minute
We've seen this story with England before. Anything 320+ which let's be honest SA are going to canter to, I'm not sure we have the batting form to chase.
I think it’s the crazy first innings score we are worried about especially with a bowler down.
Joe Root having to bowl out his 10 overs on this god help us all
Yes particularly if Van der Merwe continues his good form
What happened to Topley? Any chance he comes back or are they counting on Atkinson to bowl 10?
Injury to finger. May come back, not sure. Stokes isn’t bowling so Atkinson was to bowl all anyway. It’s the extra bowler after Root has bowled 6 plus Wood isn’t bowling very well.