ICC Cricket World Cup 2023

Shocking collapse from Pakistan.

India will cruise to this total. Another boring one sided game in this WC.

So will this be now 8-0 India? This is like the Liverpool vs Everton rivalry.
 
It's not about blindly slogging. It's about rotation of strike as well. The intent was completely missing is my point. Maybe they wanted to play out Kuldeep and that's fine but you can do that with some rotation of strike as well

That was what they were doing, even the one dolly Kuldeep threw up, the wide full toss outside off stump, Babar barely got it to the boundary. They were simply trying to run him down and attack the rest.

It's a tactic they've constantly used against any team with a spinner they have no idea how to play. Rashid, Mujeeb with Afghanistan, Theekshana with Sri Lanka and Kuldeep, Ashwin with India. They just accept they can't pick their spin, hope for picking singles and then attack the other bowlers.

None of Indian spinners are mystery spin bowlers though

Well for Pakistan Kuldeep and Ashwin are because they have no idea how to pick which way the ball is spinning.
 
Erasmus has had a mare. Won't be surprised if he will be far more quick raising his finger in the 2nd innings after refusing to do so unless forced by drs in the first.
 
I hope we play sensibly and just win without any heat aches!

Not the start like against Australia

Like this

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I hope India get this game wrapped up early doors so I can catch the rugby World Cup quarterfinals on time.
 
Doesn't look like a 350-400 pitch by any means, but 191 isn't a par score, either. As long as the Indian batters keep their heads on their shoulders, this should be a comfortable chase even if Pakistan get some cheap wickets early on.
 
This will be such an easy victory, and another boring game in the WC to be honest
 
why are subcontinent tournaments less enjoyable? Pitches seem to make for worse games
 
How’s this guy back from Dengue and batting like this in a week
 
Id agree with this about tests but for Odis they’re about the same everywhere.

fair, maybe nostalgia but the 2003,
2007 and 2019 WCs felt very memorable.

suppose 2011 was fine, for the Ireland vs England match especially.
 
fair, maybe nostalgia but the 2003,
2007 and 2019 WCs felt very memorable.

suppose 2011 was fine, for the Ireland vs England match especially.

Both India and Pakistan were eliminated early in 2007. I wouldn't call 2007 memorable.

Also what criteria are you basing this idea of a memorable world cup?
 
fair, maybe nostalgia but the 2003,
2007 and 2019 WCs felt very memorable.

suppose 2011 was fine, for the Ireland vs England match especially.

I meant right now. The reason is usually that the pacers don’t come into the game and large chunks of the game in the sub continent feel like it’s just going through the motions.

I find pitches for limited overs in Australia and England are like that - very high scoring - in the recent past for limited overs. And to be fair the 2019 World Cup was an anomaly — it was preceded by lots of high scoring ODIs in England but the World Cup itself didn’t have a high average of runs scored.

One big difference between 2011 and later is that the rules changed for number of fielders outside the circle. Since that happened, bowlers leak a lot more runs. I’d expect this World Cup to be ‘flatter’ than 2011 for that reason as well.
 
On the flip side if india prepared more crumbly pitches which is the nature of the pitches here, they’d steamroll the opposition and that too would be boring.
 
This is the best Indian team in Odis and the best batting side too in the team’s history.
 
There are a lot of parallels between Manchester City (of last 20 games last season) and India at the moment. There is an inevitability about them winning this world cup quite comfortably.
 
This could be over within 20/25 overs.

No one is beating India in India, unless NZ grind out a victory, makes for a rather tame world cup.
 
There are a lot of parallels between Manchester City (of last 20 games last season) and India at the moment. There is an inevitability about them winning this world cup quite comfortably.
Oddly media was full of calling india the 4th best team till week before the World Cup. Peaking and a lot of credit to Rohit and Dravid for consistency of selections. Many past Indian teams would’ve jettisoned a bunch of these - KL and Kuldeep as examples - and panicked at the late injuries.
 
Id agree with this about tests but for Odis they’re about the same everywhere.

I even heard the Indian ex player commentators moan about how the pitches are prepared for India, but I think it’s also more a gamble in ODI’s and it can definitely work against the Indians. Australia & Pakistan have just been very shit, and India very good. It’s not just the batting & bowling, but their fielding is also superb with India.
 
This could be over within 20/25 overs.

No one is beating India in India, unless NZ grind out a victory, makes for a rather tame world cup.
I think this is phrasing is a disservice. The pitches aren’t that favourable to the home team - india are right now just very good. It’s still a long tournament and anything can happen.
 
2011 had a lot of great games featuring india. England tie, South Africa, the three knockouts.
It was a competitive wc as well. India's KO matches were really good. 2019 will always be remembered for that final but people forget there were many rain affected matches which were washed out. NZ massively benefitted from that.
 
It's disingenuous analysis -- it's the same tournament where SA are smashing 300s and NZ look like one of the form teams.
 
I think this is phrasing is a disservice. The pitches aren’t that favourable to the home team - india are right now just very good. It’s still a long tournament and anything can happen.
What?
They are massively favouring India! Today maybe not so much as the last game, but even so.

I'll still my neck out and say the only team likely to beat India is NZ.
 
This could be over within 20/25 overs.

No one is beating India in India, unless NZ grind out a victory, makes for a rather tame world cup.

Yeah, this is wrong...

Our batsmen have been in great form for a while now. Imagine having Kohli and Rohit in a team, and neither is your best player. Then imagine having Bumrah and him not being your best LO bowler. This Indian team might (emphasis on might) be the best we've ever had. We're probably good to reach the semis no matter where this cup was hosted but unlike previous years, I'd have been confident of winning in any conditions.
 
Yeah, this is wrong...

Our batsmen have been in great form for a while now. Imagine having Kohli and Rohit in a team, and neither is your best player. Then imagine having Bumrah and him not being your best LO bowler. This Indian team might (emphasis on might) be the best we've ever had. We're probably good to reach the semis no matter where this cup was hosted but unlike previous years, I'd have been confident of winning in any conditions.
I'm not belittling India here at all, they are damn good side.
Not the best here I don't believe, but in these conditions, on these pitches, they have a massive massive advantage that not many, if any teams could over come, and I firmly believe it's led to what has so far been an underwhelming world cup.
 
I'm not belittling India here at all, they are damn good side.
Not the best here I don't believe, but in these conditions, on these pitches, they have a massive massive advantage that not many, if any teams could over come, and I firmly believe it's led to what has so far been an underwhelming world cup.

Can you, without looking, tell which games, aside from the semis and final, that you found memorable from 2019? I think Pakistan and England had a good high scoring game, there was Sri Lankas win over England, and India vs Afghan.
 
The higher ranked team should always bat first first. We need to get rid of the toss