ICC Cricket World Cup 2019

Win one and pray the NRR saves them, win two and are almost certain to go through
Infact if they win just one out of the 3 games left (including this one), they will need more than NRR to save them as mathematically 3 teams can overtake them
Thank You.
 
For 4 years at home we could chase absolutely any total.

And now it's the World Cup and anything over 200 I wouldn't fancy us with :lol::(

I think you guys have been victim of your own success. Taking away nothing from your past series wins but the pitches you guys had for some of those ODI series were piss poor. Those were literally a batting paradise. This was the same mistake India used to make but then they somewhat learned. I think people started reading too much into the Eng/Pak series and thought anything less than 330 can be easily chased. SO far apart from Bangladesh against a listless Windies bowling no other teams have managed to chase above 300. Heck even 280s are proving to be difficult to chase.
 
We'll never win the World Cup.

This is the best side we've ever had, we're at home and we're not even going to get to the knockouts.
 
:lol: best batting line up ever.

Still not over till Butler is gone.

Stokes is their most clutch player. If he flops here, they might as well go home. He's the key here. If him and Jonny can get it to 150-3, and Butler gets a quick 50 odd, then it will be a tight finish. Stokes needs a daddy hundred here.
 
We'll never win the World Cup.

This is the best side we've ever had, we're at home and we're not even going to get to the knockouts.

There has been a lot of criticism about this years format, but I think it is the best I have seen in a long time - properly tests out a sides credentials and allows them to work through their kinks. If England learn from this game then they'll be better for it otherwise they've been exposed as a group of bottlers.
 
NRR is irrelevant in England's case (assuming there are no more no results).
Well Bangladesh and Pak are at 7&5 points respectively with the former having 2 and the latter 3 games. But Sri Lanka are at 6 points with 3 games in hand, if they win 2 out of the 3 and Eng win just 1 out if their 3, both teams will have 10 points each where the NRR will come to play. If Eng manage to win just one, all they can hope is the other teams mess up and their superior NRR saves them
Think Bangladesh have a real chance of getting to the semis
 
Although it will be funny seeing England getting knocked out but as an Indian fan I do not want to see India face Pak in semis as they would be extremely dangerous. I would prefer playing England than a rejuvenated Pakistan.
 
Well Bangladesh and Pak are at 7&5 points respectively with the former having 2 and the latter 3 games. But Sri Lanka are at 6 points with 3 games in hand, if they win 2 out of the 3 and Eng win just 1 out if their 3, both teams will have 10 points each
Think Bangladesh have a real chance of getting to the semis

NRR is irrelevant vs Pak/Ban because they're on odd number points. NRR is irrelevant vs SL because the first tiebreaker is most games won. If Eng and SL are level then Eng would have won more games. NRR doesn't become a factor for England unless one of their final two games are called off.
 
NRR is irrelevant vs Pak/Ban because they're on odd number points. NRR is irrelevant vs SL because the first tiebreaker is most games won. If Eng and SL are level then Eng would have won more games. NRR doesn't become a factor for England unless one of their final two games are called off.
Wow didn’t know that, thanks for that info
 
I, for one, blame Ashley Giles.
Ed Smith for blocking Alex Hales & Morgan for batting 2nd even though lost 3/5 doing so, and won quiet a few in a row batting first, think the last ODI in the series vs SL was the last time England lost batting first
 
Ed Smith for blocking Alex Hales & Morgan for batting 2nd even though lost 3/5 doing so, and won quiet a few in a row batting first, think the last ODI in the series vs SL was the last time England lost batting first

I had my tongue in my cheek (but not that much, I can't stand Giles and think his decision to let Farbrace leave early is a shocking one).

Don't think bowl first was the wrong decision. England didn't bowl particularly well, but it was abundantly obvious there was plenty there (and still is).
 
Yeah that's the game, too much for England to chase down considering the batting to come. You'd ideally like a lot less for Buttler to attempt to chase down.
 
Not over yet. This game is pretty much identical to the one in CT. Aus getting 280, Eng looked done and dusted early on but Stokes scored big and saw them home.
 
No idea what they are doing. There was no need to go for that shot especially when the bounce has been uneven.
Baristow scored 20 of his 27 from boundaries and had 29 dot balls in his innings, that’s almost 5 maidens. They should really try to run more
 
Stokes is their most clutch player. If he flops here, they might as well go home. He's the key here. If him and Jonny can get it to 150-3, and Butler gets a quick 50 odd, then it will be a tight finish. Stokes needs a daddy hundred here.

Don't think Stokes has played more critical innings for them than Butler. Still he will need to play his best ODI innings ever to win this one for England.
 
Don't think Stokes has played more critical innings for them than Butler. Still he will need to play his best ODI innings ever to win this one for England.

I just trust Stokes more when pressure is on. Call it gut feeling or whatever but the guys a competitor.. Buttler for me is more flakey despite his recent rise in the game.
 
This is why chasing in these crunch matches in WC can be tricky. If it was a normal series, I bet Eng would have chased it easily but not here. One or two wickets and the pressure is high. I still think teams should win the toss and bat first. Even a 270 can be a challenging total if you bowl and field well.
 
Some really bad shots, it seems England only know one way to play, sometimes you have to take it easy and not try to score at 100+ s/r.
 
This is why chasing in these crunch matches in WC can be tricky. If it was a normal series, I bet Eng would have chased it easily but not here. One or two wickets and the pressure is high. I still think teams should win the toss and bat first. Even a 270 can be a challenging total if you bowl and field well.

And yet no one seems to take heed of this advice.
 
This is why chasing in these crunch matches in WC can be tricky. If it was a normal series, I bet Eng would have chased it easily but not here. One or two wickets and the pressure is high. I still think teams should win the toss and bat first. Even a 270 can be a challenging total if you bowl and field well.
Yes also teams bowling first seem to be more defensive with their field placements and length, they don’t want to leak too many runs but this often negates the early swing on offer. And if the team batting first is able to get near 300, they are confident to attack the chasing team and bowl fuller lengths as they have runs to play with, also the captains keep more attacking field settings. This is one of the reasons why no 300+ score has been chased thins WC despite most of the pitches being flat