How do you constantly get everything wrong about cricket?
ICC Cricket World Cup 2011
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How do you constantly get everything wrong about cricket?
Pakistan under any type of pressure can buckle big time.
Siddhu is such a fecking muppet
cant watch the post match analysis because of that idiot
cant watch the post match analysis because of that idiot
I remember that
loved it.
Today is the most excited I've been about cricket since the 03 WC finals
Hats off to Yuvraj, I was one of those who said he should be dropped.
Dhoni said it right that when Yuvi gets in form he has a single minded determination win matches and tournaments for India.
Dhoni said it right that when Yuvi gets in form he has a single minded determination win matches and tournaments for India.
He's a big match player. He's been so good for us with both bat and ball.
Harsha Bhogle not taking the praise Simon Hughes was giving Gary Kirsten well...despite Raina thanking Gary right at the top of his interview 
You know how everyone says, they hate England(football) because of the stupid fans, hype etc etc. even though in reality it's the stupid media? Well India are exactly the same. Smug as hell pundits...
To the match...India way too good for Australia in the end, 5 wicket victory with more than 2 overs to spare is pretty comprehensive.
I'd say India were favourites in the SF against Pakistan, obviously Pakistan has a better bowling lineup than Australia, and their spinners will be approximately 1000 times better, but I don't think their batting will handle the pressure(especially if they have to chase).
You know how everyone says, they hate England(football) because of the stupid fans, hype etc etc. even though in reality it's the stupid media? Well India are exactly the same. Smug as hell pundits...
To the match...India way too good for Australia in the end, 5 wicket victory with more than 2 overs to spare is pretty comprehensive.
I'd say India were favourites in the SF against Pakistan, obviously Pakistan has a better bowling lineup than Australia, and their spinners will be approximately 1000 times better, but I don't think their batting will handle the pressure(especially if they have to chase).
Harsha Bhogle not taking the praise Simon Hughes was giving Gary Kirsten well...despite Raina thanking Gary right at the top of his interview
You know how everyone says, they hate England(football) because of the stupid fans, hype etc etc. even though in reality it's the stupid media? Well India are exactly the same. Smug as hell pundits...
To the match...India way too good for Australia in the end, 5 wicket victory with more than 2 overs to spare is pretty comprehensive.
I'd say India were favourites in the SF against Pakistan, obviously Pakistan has a better bowling lineup than Australia, and their spinners will be approximately 1000 times better, but I don't think their batting will handle the pressure(especially if they have to chase).
That's actually quite rubbish, only Sidhu is the one who is a cnut. The rest of them are quite good(Gavaskar, Shastri, Ganguly, Bhogle). As far as the media goes, it's not an Indian thing, it's the subcontinental thing.
Harsha Bhogle not taking the praise Simon Hughes was giving Gary Kirsten well...despite Raina thanking Gary right at the top of his interview
I disagreed with Simon Hughes too, because Simon Hughes was crediting the SA backroom staff with bringing the mental toughness to the Indian team. If he'd said they'd brought professionalism to the Indian unit, I'd have agreed 100%. But crediting the saffers for our ability to handle pressure? That's a bit ironic, isn't it?
If there's one person who brought about a change in the Indian team's mentality it's Ganguly.
Harsha Bhogle not taking the praise Simon Hughes was giving Gary Kirsten well...despite Raina thanking Gary right at the top of his interview
You know how everyone says, they hate England(football) because of the stupid fans, hype etc etc. even though in reality it's the stupid media? Well India are exactly the same. Smug as hell pundits...
To the match...India way too good for Australia in the end, 5 wicket victory with more than 2 overs to spare is pretty comprehensive.
I'd say India were favourites in the SF against Pakistan, obviously Pakistan has a better bowling lineup than Australia, and their spinners will be approximately 1000 times better, but I don't think their batting will handle the pressure(especially if they have to chase).
Like who exactly? Bhogle is extremely professional and was right on this occasion. We began to start winning away from home long before Kirsten entered the picture, which is not to say that he's not done a good job.
Bhogle and Shastri have gone down in my estimation the past 15 months. I've been living in the subcontinent for that duration, so watching a lot more of them, and Harsha has lost perspective I feel(used to love listening to him, when India played Australia), and Ravi is just annoying(he speaks in cliches).
But Gavaskar and Manjeker(sp?) are still good, and Ganguly I've only seen this tournament(so early days....he is very astute, so I like him so far).
@Zing, he was speaking of the togetherness, and team spirit, which he got into once Harsha let him continue. When he spoke about all the little partnerships they formed, and how that has been a trait of India the past couple of years in ODI matches. Also South Africa bottling is a bit of a misnomer, losing via the D/L is not bottling, obviously the Australia matches stand out).
-Getting to the players, loved the confidence Raina showed, everyone and their dead grandma knew, he would get some short stuff right from the start, but he handled that, and the pressure beautifully.
I honestly can't see how anyone but South Africa can stop this Indian lineup. One final shout out to Zaheer Khan, it can't be easy being a one man pace attack, and having to produce in your 2nd spell when the captain needs you, but he keeps doing it, time and time again. That wicket of Hussey, I think was the difference between 260 and 285.
Simon's tearing into Australia. This is fun.
Unbelievable amount of nerves in the last hour of the match, I think my health has seriously deteriorated after this and I'm glad that the semi-final is next Wednesday because I think the players (and fans alike) need at least a few days rest after that.
I was happy chasing 261, thought we went about it fine up until Kohli got caught out to a very poor delivery and Gambhir lost his head. With Dhoni departing and the run rate going above 6 an over we needed Yuvraj and Raina to get a handle on the game. I mentioned after the West Indies match too, but this has been a dream World Cup so far for Yuvraj and he has always been a favourite player of mine (especially being Punjabi myself) so to see him hit the winning runs and win man of the match again was very special.
Excellent to see Raina doing so well too, I have a lot of faith in him and there could not have been much more pressure on him but he rose to the occassion - that 6 off the first bowl of the powerplay killed the game off. Very nervous about the semi-final against Pakistan, but for now will try to enjoy this victory! Great to end the Australia dominance in the World Cups too.
I was happy chasing 261, thought we went about it fine up until Kohli got caught out to a very poor delivery and Gambhir lost his head. With Dhoni departing and the run rate going above 6 an over we needed Yuvraj and Raina to get a handle on the game. I mentioned after the West Indies match too, but this has been a dream World Cup so far for Yuvraj and he has always been a favourite player of mine (especially being Punjabi myself) so to see him hit the winning runs and win man of the match again was very special.
Excellent to see Raina doing so well too, I have a lot of faith in him and there could not have been much more pressure on him but he rose to the occassion - that 6 off the first bowl of the powerplay killed the game off. Very nervous about the semi-final against Pakistan, but for now will try to enjoy this victory! Great to end the Australia dominance in the World Cups too.
Simon's tearing into Australia. This is fun.
So he should, not taking anything away from India(clearly the better team) but that was a shit team, and shit performance.
Tait, Johnson and Krejza
The lack of foresight by the selectors to not cultivate, a decent spinner(Razzak from Bangladesh would walk into the aussie side as a spinner) knowing that a WC in the Subcontinent was coming up is criminal.
Also to be so pig headed in that, our strength is pace, so we'll stick to that regardless of the conditions, sounds great in principle, but as this tournament has shown is horrible in practice.
That was awesome.So he should, not taking anything away from India(clearly the better team) but that was a shit team, and shit performance.
Tait, Johnson and Krejza
The lack of foresight by the selectors to not cultivate, a decent spinner(Razzak from Bangladesh would walk into the aussie side as a spinner) knowing that a WC in the Subcontinent was coming up is criminal.
Also to be so pig headed in that, our strength is pace, so we'll stick to that regardless of the conditions, sounds great in principle, but as this tournament has shown is horrible in practice.
He just called Krejza a club bowler and Hussey a village bowler
Have said all along the Oz attack has been overrated. Pakistan and SA have way better bowling attack than them. Lee was outstanding for them, Johnson good at times and Watson a very good fourth paceman. Tait is just way too inconsistent and no need to say anything about spinners.
Tait is probably my favorite bowler now.
Yuvraj at the press conference saying he's playing this WC to win it for Sachin. No need for that. :\
Harsha Bhogle not taking the praise Simon Hughes was giving Gary Kirsten well...despite Raina thanking Gary right at the top of his interview
You know how everyone says, they hate England(football) because of the stupid fans, hype etc etc. even though in reality it's the stupid media? Well India are exactly the same. Smug as hell pundits...
To the match...India way too good for Australia in the end, 5 wicket victory with more than 2 overs to spare is pretty comprehensive.
I'd say India were favourites in the SF against Pakistan, obviously Pakistan has a better bowling lineup than Australia, and their spinners will be approximately 1000 times better, but I don't think their batting will handle the pressure(especially if they have to chase).
I haven't watched pre-game, half-time or post-game analysis in years and I only listen to the commentary only because you can't get the crowd noise if you turn the volume down. The standard's pretty low nowadays. Not that it was ever particularly high but briefly during the early to mid 90s, we had a period of really good commentators. Gavaskar was breaking through, Boycott was a character as were a few others including Henry Blofeld. Holding was smooth.
Nowadays, they deal only in hyperbole.
To be fair Sachin played really well himself today too.
In other news, Yardy's gone back home citing depression and Rashid is to replace him.
Boycott has come under a bit of criticism.. said Yardy got depressed because Yardy read Boycott's comments about his bowling.
Boycott has come under a bit of criticism.. said Yardy got depressed because Yardy read Boycott's comments about his bowling.
He was quite brilliant. That flick through midwicket off Johnson for four was genius.
Hmm...Australia should definitely have some perspective. This is a team that have gotten into the last 4 finals in a row and have won the last 3 in a row. They were bound to lose at some point.
Their attack has gone from McGrath, Clark, Lee, Bracken etc. to shite like Tait, Krezja and Hussey.
The blame certainly falls on the administrators who didn't prepare for this rather than the team out there.
Their attack has gone from McGrath, Clark, Lee, Bracken etc. to shite like Tait, Krezja and Hussey.
The blame certainly falls on the administrators who didn't prepare for this rather than the team out there.
Raina mentioned him too...Look I know it sounds a bit awkward, but some of these guys were only a couple of years old when Tendulkar started playing for India, and some probably had posters of him as schoolboys, now they're playing in the same team as he is!
So you can understand why they are so effusive in their praise of him, and I think that's fair enough, especially because he is still in the team by merit, not because of sentiment.
Indeed. He made it look quite easy. Good ball to get him though, about the only good thing Tait did well.
Yes, yes and yes. But there was a bit of criticism aimed towards Gambhir when he said the same thing pre-tournament, saying the focus should be on the country and they shouldn't be caught up playing for a player. There was no need for Yuvraj to bring it up, he was just being dramatic. Having said that, does it really matter to a professional? WC, at home, playing for your country.. do you need even more motivation than that? I don't think you do..
He's probably almost a God for them. A living legend they get to play next to and be around. I don't blame them one bit
(lucky buggers)Losing hasn't been the problem, no one can rule forever...it is the manner of the dethroning.
tea-stall hacks knew what the problems were, yet the selectors refused to buckle down and sort something out. I'm not saying they can do much if the talent isn't there...but Steve Smith played how many matches this WC? how many overs did he bowl?
If he isn't in the team as an allrounder, how the feck does he retain his place for so long as a batsmen, when he clearly isn't good enough to be that? Really poor utilization of resources as far as I'm concerned.
Yeap, commentary now days is awful. Everyone is too repetitive and indulges in over the top descriptions of any meaningful action. Hardly an insight is offered. I feel like stabbing my ears every time I hear Shastri or Chappel on commentary.
I rate Sky's commentary team though. Couple of them can be pigheaded but in general they like to keep it simple and give some handy insight as well. Oddly, Naseer Husain is probably my favorite commentator right now. He tells it as it is. Ganguly has the potential to be a good studio pundit but he is not fluent or impulsive enough to be a good commentator.
I think it's just a way of giving something a different angle. I want India to win the world cup of course but frankly watching the guy I grew up worshipping win it would be something else. I doubt I'd rate a world cup win when I'm 45 anywhere near the same.
Sachin's innings was crucial since we needed to see off the first 15 without losing 2-3 wickets.
Well done India! Must be favourites now.
Munaf out, Nehra in.. I like how through shit performances our first 11's getting chiseled into what it should have been.
Also, I dunno why but I'm incredibly confident that we'll win against Pakistan?
Also, I dunno why but I'm incredibly confident that we'll win against Pakistan?
Absolutely. Bit surprised Sehwag looked so off color. I fear he may have the same problems against other pacers who don't give him the kind of room he likes. Had he fired, Sachin and him would have finished this in 40.
He looked pallid. I don't think he was 100%.
I dunno. Nehra hasn't look good in this tournament. I have a sneaky feeling Sreesanth could do some real damage. Also Zaheer needs to bowl better with the new ball. At the moment he's an old ball bowler.