ICC Cricket World Cup 2011

Everyone seems to rave about Ashwin but they don't try him out. Bizarre.

And 7 batsman against Neatherlands?

fecking hell.
 
Especially when their weakness is the bowling department.

Yup.

And given that the current lot of bowlers haven't done too well. Why not try out some of the other bowlers and as many as you can. Our batting is strong enough for Netherlands.

Not happy with our bowling at all. Nothing inspiring in terms of pace or movement, our spinners barely spin the ball. It's all a little bland. The one hope is Zaheer Khan and his variety and class.
 
Still the best sight in sport for me, watching Sachin bat.

Absolute genius. I don't know how he's still playing at such a high level. Everything he does these days is just extra icing on the cake for me.
 
Our bowling is just desperately poor. We've won 3 and drawn one now but there has not been one entirely convincing performance.
 
Our bowling is just desperately poor. We've won 3 and drawn one now but there has not been one entirely convincing performance.

Absolutely. It will take some incredible batting to win the WC this time round.

A country of a billion who are nuts about just one sport and can't put out 3 quality bowlers!
 
Absolutely. It will take some incredible batting to win the WC this time round.

A country of a billion who are nuts about just one sport and can't put out 3 quality bowlers!

This time? It's the same story everytime :p

I think even Ajit Agarkar could do a better job than some of our so called bowlers this time.
 
Through to the next round.

3 more wins is all it takes to win the lot. Can't see it happening.
 
Don't think it's about population, and more about facilities. I had six quality grounds in a five mile radius in the UK when I played.

Munaf was bowling barefoot in lousy conditions at the age of 17 in his village. I know the person who gifted him his first pair of trainers.
 
Russel Arnold amuses me.

He's as awkward on TV as he was with the bat.
 
Harsha Bhogle needs to bring a stick to the studio and whack Sidhu with it every time he interrupts.
 
Who have been the most impressive side so far? Would it be fair to say the Ozzies followed closely by Sri Lanka?
 
Too early to call right now IMO.

Sri Lanka lost the only big match they've played against Pakistan.

South Africa are in my mind probably the most complete team but they somehow lost to England.

We look like we don't have a bowling attack yet if we beat SA we should top the group.

Australia haven't really had a test.
 
Exactly the point I was making about Ireland last week.

Understood.

However, the point I trying to make was a lot of the Irish lads picked up or got interested in cricket in England, and with more success like last week and watching Morgan succeed I'm sure the Irish can produce a respectable team from players sourced in England, and then maybe look to produce more facilities to develop the game further back home.
 
Aussies, but not really played anyone yet, the SL match the other day would have been a real good contest.

India have been shit bowling, so what else is new? But batting wise, they've been very very impressive, and to be frank, that's all that probably matters at this WC.

South Africa until they choked against England also looked very good

New Zeeland are a very good 1day side and the Ozzies thrashed them...

Bowlers win cricket matches and Tait, Lee and Johnson have looked deadly even on these generally placid pitches. They bowl at such a pace (> 90mph)that as a batsman they are very diffcult to open your shoulders at no matter how placid a pitch may be.
I still think India are favourites because of the home advantage but they haven't been that great so far. The bowling has to be a worry for India, especially if they ever meet Australia.
 
Understood.

However, the point I trying to make was a lot of the Irish lads picked up or got interested in cricket in England, and with more success like last week and watching Morgan succeed I'm sure the Irish can produce a respectable team from players sourced in England, and then maybe look to produce more facilities to develop the game further back home.

It's going to be a long long process Sults. I don't want to rehash an argument that has ran it's course but cricket is such an incredibly minority sport over here. Eoin Morgan is a very talented lad and as Irish as they come but he opted to play for England at the end of the day.

Very interesting case is Eoin Morgan. On joining up with England he said 'England is one of the ten full members of the International Cricket Council, while Ireland is an associate member. Only full member nations can play a full schedule of international cricket, including test matches.'

One for Pogue, he is also noted as being a skilful player of the reverse sweep shot. His reverse sweep has been influenced by the game of hurling which is played mostly in Ireland. Morgan played Hurling twice a week and this helped develop his skills as a batsman, particularly as the grip for hurling is the same as for the reverse sweep.
 
It's going to be a long long process Sults. I don't want to rehash an argument that has ran it's course but cricket is such an incredibly minority sport over here. Eoin Morgan is a very talented lad and as Irish as they come but he opted to play for England at the end of the day.

Very interesting case is Eoin Morgan. On joining up with England he said 'England is one of the ten full members of the International Cricket Council, while Ireland is an associate member. Only full member nations can play a full schedule of international cricket, including test matches.'

One for Pogue, he is also noted as being a skilful player of the reverse sweep shot. His reverse sweep has been influenced by the game of hurling which is played mostly in Ireland. Morgan played Hurling twice a week and this helped develop his skills as a batsman, particularly as the grip for hurling is the same as for the reverse sweep.

Could that change?
 
Could that change?

In my opinion, not significantly Spoons. Certainly not in the immediate future.

It's still seen by many as the sport of 'the auld enemy' over here, a throwback to the days of colonialism.

It's hard to see any significant amount of money being put into the sport in the near future when there's so little money around in the country anyway.
 
They came into this tournament on the back of some of the worst form in their history.

They got pumped by Bangladesh 4-0, had a ton of players injured, and looked disinterested, not to mention they also lost a home series against Pakistan, and got blanked by India 5-0.

So yes, Taylor, Styris, Oram, McCullum are all devastating, but they haven't been for 6 months now.

In fact, until those 92 runs in 25 deliveries + Kakmal dropping 4 catches at the end of the innings it looked like they were going to lose against Pakistan too.

They've looked pretty decent this world cup... I think that's whats counts, not? Anyway, I'm sorry for suggesting such rediculous things like Australia being half decent at cricket. What must I have been thinking? tsk.
 
Going to bed now to get up in time for the Windies match. Really feel we can do it if we play anywhere near the standard we did against England.

EDIT: 3 hours later, and this went fecking swimmingly. Damn you insomnia.
 
Boyd Rankin's fantastic.. better than most Indian bowlers.
 
Ireland have done a fine job stifling the run rate. They need to take wickets now.
 
@Feeky...wickets in hand, Windies starting to pick up the pace, I think you guys will be chasing a big total.

I think you'll miss Trent Johnston and his little medium pacers.
Not so sure, they'll do well to get 250 from here, which we're very capable of running down. 3/1 in-running which is surely worth a nibble.
 
Doesn't work like that man. If they have wickets in hand in the last 10, they might pile on 100 in those 10 alone.

So far, so good. I hope you can restrict them to 250. Kemar Roach will be a handful on this wicket, though.
 
Good games today.

Both matches should be fairly close, as long as Bangladesh bat decently.

So guys, since it is still fairly open and many permutations and combinations are still possible,

Who would you like to face in the quarters from the current realistic possibilities?
 
NZ.

But I think what's going to happen is we'll face Pakistan if we're first.

Or we'll face NZ if we're 2nd. But end up facing Australia in Mohali in SF if we get past that. Wouldn't want to run into the Aussie pace express on this wicket.

Pre-tournament I wanted to face Pakistan in the QF, but after seeing their bowling and our bowling, I'm not so sure now.

edit:
actually I'm wrong. If we face NZ after being 2nd, we'll likely face Sri Lanka in the semis. I think I'll take that. NZ in the QF, potentially SL in the semis.
 
NZ.

But I think what's going to happen is we'll face Pakistan if we're first.

Or we'll face NZ if we're 2nd. But end up facing Australia in Mohali in SF if we get past that. Wouldn't want to run into the Aussie pace express on this wicket.

Pre-tournament I wanted to face Pakistan in the QF, but after seeing their bowling and our bowling, I'm not so sure now.

Same, NZ for me too.

If the pitch has something in it for the seamers I'd actually go with Pakistan. Their batting line up is very weak on pitches conducive from bowlers. On flat tracks, though, we need to avoid them.
 
Doesn't work like that man. If they have wickets in hand in the last 10, they might pile on 100 in those 10 alone.

So far, so good. I hope you can restrict them to 250. Kemar Roach will be a handful on this wicket, though.
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Two down in no time!

Under 247.5 runs is 5/6 now.

Ireland 7/4 in from 3/1 now, hope ye had a nibble when I suggested. I sure didn't.
 
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Two down in no time!

Under 247.5 runs is 5/6 now.

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